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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 03:59 PM   #8581
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I don't see the point here. FIFA wont be making judgements on viewership per capita. They would only care about total viewers as this would rake in the sponsorship $$$.
only in equal world where 20 million viewers in china produces the same tv revenue as 20 million in europe.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 04:20 PM   #8582
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This is exactly what I expected. So based on your numbers from the last Asian World Cup in 2002, despite the fact that 70% of the world's population resides in Asia, they still couldn't get more viewers than the Americas, Europe, and Africa? That's pretty pathetic.
What you are forgetting rather conveniently is that Asia has had 1 large tournament in its timezone.By comparison the Americas have had 5 World Cups broadcast in that timezone and is a mature market.The same with Europe-8 World Cups broadcast in primetime since '54 plus Euro's and UCL etc-a very mature market.
You simply won't be able to compare 2002 with 2022.There is every possibility games could average 1 billion people per game.This becomes a licence to print money for FIFA.

It will absolutely annihilate existing broadcast records
64,000,000,000
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 04:46 PM   #8583
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Football will bring more revenue to the Australians...

I would like to see the 2018 or 2022 FIFA World Cup going Australias way...
Oi Pule,howzit goin champ??
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 04:50 PM   #8584
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War of words over Qatar World Cup bid

A war of words has broken out at the highest level of Fifa over criticism of Qatar’s 2022 World Cup bid due to extreme temperatures in the country in June and July.

Mohamed Bin Hammam, the Qatari head of the Asian Football Confederation and a Fifa executive committee member, has pointed the finger at potential heat problems in the United States, who are bid rivals.

His comments come after Fifa’s inspectors warned of a potential risk to players and officials from the heat in Qatar, which can top 50 degrees Celsius, and fellow Fifa member Chuck Blazer saying: “You can air-condition a stadium, but I don’t see how you can air-condition an entire country.”

That was in reference to Qatar’s insistence that they would use cooling systems inside the stadiums, and Bin Hammam has now hit back at Blazer’s remarks.

Bin Hammam wrote on his personal blog: “When my counterpart asked me about my response to the news that my country’s bid was once more criticised due to Qatar’s hot weather and the danger it may contribute toward players’ and officials’ health, I reminded him of two things.

“One: the technological developments and solutions that Qatar would apply to its stadiums in order to overcome the challenges of the heat.

“Two: whether or not he remembers the 1994 World Cup in the United States, where some of the matches were played at midday in temperatures as high as 50 degrees Celsius.

“When he told me that he remembers, I asked him whether or not anyone had criticised the US for putting the players’ and officials’ health in danger.

“On the contrary, even the American fans forgot about the heat, and, yet, applied for another World Cup posting in less than 16 years from the time they last hosted.”

Fifa’s inspectors rated Qatar a high overall operation risk to stage the World Cup. The USA were a low risk, but a medium overall legal risk due to a lack of necessary government guarantees.

Australia received the best technical report among 2022 bidders, narrowly ahead of South Korea. Japan also had issues over government guarantees.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soc...283900443.html
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 05:15 PM   #8585
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The weather in Qatar this year
http://www.wunderground.com/history/air ... story.html
Maximum,minimum,humidity
June 1 2010 45 28 61
June 2 2010 43 28 48
June 3 2010 37 27 89
June 4 2010 39 29 83
June 5 2010 44 27 90
June 6 2010 44 27 87
June 7 2010 44 28 70
June 8 2010 41 30 54
June 9 2010 44 29 60
June 10 2010 45 27 54
June 11 2010 41 26 74
June 12 2010 43 26 75
June 13 2010 46 27 75
June 14 2010 44 28 52
June 15 2010 43 28 71
June 16 2010 45 29 78
June 17 2010 46 28 81
June 18 2010 48 30 76
June 19 2010 48 30 79
June 20 2010 48 30 78
June 21 2010 46 29 76
June 22 2010 44 30 63
June 23 2010 43 28 58
June 24 2010 40 29 46
June 25 2010 41 28 49
June 26 2010 42 28 55
June 27 2010 40 27 60
June 28 2010 40 23 75
June 29 2010 41 26 75
June 30 2010 41 26 77
July 1 2010 42 27 67
July 2 2010 44 30 46
July 3 2010 42 29 44
July 4 2010 39 27 88
July 5 2010 44 27 100
July 6 2010 47 31 44
July 7 2010 44 30 82
July 8 2010 42 30 88
July 9 2010 43 32 74
July 10 2010 41 31 77
July 11 2010 44 31 83
July 12 2010 45 32 71
July 13 2010 48 33 64
July 14 2010 49 36 44
July 15 2010 47 33 51
July 16 2010 47 30 58
July 17 2010 46 30 59
July 18 2010 45 29 65
July 19 2010 45 30 67
July 20 2010 42 32 45
July 21 2010 45 31 65
July 22 2010 45 30 75
July 23 2010 46 31 66
July 24 2010 45 28 75
July 25 2010 46 28 76
July 26 2010 45 29 59
July 27 2010 43 30 61
July 28 2010 43 30 61
July 29 2010 42 30 81
July 30 2010 43 31 65
July 31 2010 43 31 82
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 07:49 PM   #8586
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What Qatar forgets is that:

1. There is already an A/Ced stadium in the US...the Dallas Cowboys stadium.

2. The hot daytime matches in the US will simply moved to a late afternoon sked. That's all.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 09:59 PM   #8587
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its amzaing how temperature seems to be an issue. its the 10 venues in 30km thats a bigger issue.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 10:05 PM   #8588
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Qatar is NOT going to happen. It's just ludicrous how that hell-hole (albeit it w/ OK, tons of money), could stage anything so comfortably legitimate or logistically challenging as a World Cup or an Olympics.

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Old November 22nd, 2010, 10:51 PM   #8589
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@ Mo Rush

I pointed that out, prob the only one atm :P
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 10:57 PM   #8590
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only in equal world where 20 million viewers in china produces the same tv revenue as 20 million in europe.
I'm willing to concede that TV revenue will be higher from Euro/American deals.

That isn't a good enough reason to exclude an Asian World Cup in 2022. Europe and the Americas (with the exception of North America's ~350 million) are saturated markets, with little prospect for growth. If anything, slipperydog's posts have shown that Asia (~3.5 billion) is nowhere near a saturated market and that having World Cups in the Asian confederation significantly increases the audience. If FIFA want to see an increase in this market as the Asian middle class rises then they should have World Cups within the Asian timezone/confederation.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 11:11 PM   #8591
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Many forget that in 1995, Qatar hosted an U-20 FIFA World Cup.
In 1995 there weren't temperature problems?. What changed from that moment until now?.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 11:16 PM   #8592
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Many forget that in 1995, Qatar hosted an U-20 FIFA World Cup.
In 1995 there weren't temperature problems?. What changed from that moment until now?.
Held in April 1995

Average temperatures in April are 10 degrees Celsius lower.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/trave...graph/QAXX0003
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 11:23 PM   #8593
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Many forget that in 1995, Qatar hosted an U-20 FIFA World Cup.
In 1995 there weren't temperature problems?. What changed from that moment until now?.
What you're forgetting is that it was played during April when average temps are 21 to 32 degrees c.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 11:24 PM   #8594
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 11:29 PM   #8595
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I can't se the Qatar bid winning, Qatar+UAE could maybe just maybe have a chance but Qatar alone should realisticly have no chance when competing with so many other good bids. If the FIFA representatives have not lost lost their minds this should be between Australia and USA since Japan/Korea just had it.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 11:54 PM   #8596
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Many forget that in 1995, Qatar hosted an U-20 FIFA World Cup.
In 1995 there weren't temperature problems?. What changed from that moment until now?.
Australia has hosted multiple U-20 World Cups but obviously the players could hardly play and it wasn't hosted in June/July which are the hottest months in Qatar, even Qataris flee Qatar during this time. Qatar has a male to female ratio of 4:1, it gets further skewed during this time because if the husband doesn't have leave then the wife and kids just go

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Old November 23rd, 2010, 12:14 AM   #8597
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Many forget that in 1995, Qatar hosted an U-20 FIFA World Cup.
In 1995 there weren't temperature problems?. What changed from that moment until now?.
FACT
Qatar have NEVER held a major sporting event in June or July

There is a major reason for this
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 12:29 AM   #8598
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Would you all just ignore the temperature for just a second.

It doesn't matter what Qatar has hosted. Hosting 10 WC venues in one city is just not going to happen, and is not in any way feasible in Doha.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 02:58 AM   #8599
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The key is not Qatar because they appear likely to make it to the second round. But Qatar's votes are maxed out because they won't receive any more support than what they already have. The real battle is between the US and Australia to get to the second round. If one of them can do that, all the voters who voted for either the US or Oz in the first round will vote for the English-speaking country that actually makes it though. Qatar will have a group of dedicated voters all the way through, but if a US/Oz voter's choice misses the second round, they will not be voting for Qatar.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 03:16 AM   #8600
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After they have voted for 2018, will THAT be announced to the world BEFORE they recovene for the 2022 vote?? Or will 2018 only be revealed to the ExeCom; then they vote for 2022 AND THEN reveal both results in one fell swoop??
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