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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 05:19 AM   #8601
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If FIFA all ready admitts that having the bids at the same time was a mistake then they really should anounce the winner of 2018 before they vote for 2022 else they just accentuate the current problems they are having. One would have to ask themselves how solid the Spain/Qatar pack is if England or Russia are already announced as winner for 2018. It would be the most transparent way to do itas it would leave far less questions.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 08:59 AM   #8602
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 11:24 AM   #8603
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Very well bloke.That was an amazing World Cup you fellas put on,really hope we get the chance to repay the debt in 12 years.United Nations at my place
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 11:30 AM   #8604
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Your shout.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 11:55 AM   #8605
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Only shouting foreigners-was in the bid book as part of our global legacy .Limit of about 30
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:01 PM   #8606
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:28 PM   #8607
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So North Korea and South Korea's situation, surely not good for the world cup bid of Korea, especially as I believe they had raised the possibility of playing some games in North Korea.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:36 PM   #8608
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LOUIS DREYFUS: I SUPPORT RUSSIAN WORLD CUP-2018 BID

The Russian owner of Marseille Margarita Louis Dreyfus arrived in Moscow not only to support her team in the forthcoming Champions League fixture against Spartak Moscow.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:36 PM   #8609
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That was always a ridiculous suggestion.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:39 PM   #8610
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That was always a ridiculous suggestion.
don't diss the greatest football manager of all time - he will arrange your death using one of his invisible mobile phones





edit - just saw the news - damn this could get ugly quick

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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:46 PM   #8611
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North Korea is Best Korea

but sadly WW3 wont start
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 02:11 PM   #8612
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but sadly WW3 wont start
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 02:27 PM   #8613
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 02:31 PM   #8614
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In nine days' time, 22 men from around the planet will be sequestered in a room in Zurich where they will decide the direction of the World Cup until the year 2022.

To place in context the gravity of their exercise, by nightfall on December 2, the next round of World Cup bidding will be for the 2026 tournament, a time so ridiculously far in the future that Newcastle United could have won multiple Premier League championships by then and Sir Alex Ferguson might even be contemplating retirement.

The voting body was 24 a week ago, but that was before the gentlemen from Tahiti and Nigeria were suspended by Fifa for their apparent willingness to be bribed. And just when we thought the expression "Fifa ethics committee" was an oxymoron.

Thus, we may be going out on a particularly frail limb as we proceed with the notion that the remaining electors will vote in a manner they deem best for the future of the game, rather than their personal finances.

We might envision those 22 wide-eyed idealists (who include Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president, and Jack Warner, the Fifa vice-president) wrestling manfully with their weighty decisions. Whom to support in 2018 from England, Holland-Belgium, Russia and Spain-Portugal? Whom to support in 2022 from Australia, Japan, Qatar, South Korea and the United States?

Fret not, ye worthies. Choose your criteria, what matters most in casting your vote, and by following our guide you may be led to righteousness.

We should award 2018 and 2022 to the best footballing nations on the ballot.

The correct vote: England and South Korea. Why England? Masters of the game, the most popular national league in the world, no World Cup since 1966. Why South Korea? It has had the most World Cup success of the 2022 bidders (semi-finals, 2002; seven consecutive appearances) and football is the most popular sport in the country, which three of its competitors cannot claim. (Really. Look at the 2022 list again.)

We should think outside the box, like we did when we voted for South Africa. This is about spreading the joy.

The correct vote: Russia and Australia. Why Russia? No European nation east of Germany and Italy has hosted the World Cup. Why Australia? The Antipodes are the only continent the World Cup has never visited.

We should consider the fans in the stands and their on-the-ground experience. Well, and having a good time ourselves.

The correct vote: Spain-Portugal and Australia. Why Spain-Portugal? Do you know anyone who has ever regretted spending time in the Iberian peninsula? Why Australia? Do you know anyone who ever regretted spending time Down Under? (Actually, after the vote the whole executive committee may go on holiday in Spain or Oz.)

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Old November 23rd, 2010, 02:51 PM   #8615
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I know about the situation but I was wondering about his comment... Maybe I missed the sarcasm!
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 03:01 PM   #8616
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FIFA World Cup 2022 bidders guide

When FIFA meets in December the governing body of world football will also decide where the 2022 tournament is headed, with a further four applications vying for the honour.

Australia, the early favourite, lines up against Japan, South Korea and Qatar. Here we take a look at the rival bids and assess their chance of winning this highest of sporting honours.

Australia

Australasia has never hosted the FIFA World Cup, but that could be about to change with Australia in pole position ahead of the vote.

On offer is a tournament based around the relaxed, safe atmosphere of the country. The tournament would also be on the doorstep of the fastest growing region in world football – Asia.

Australia has an outstanding record in hosting marquee events, with the FIFA World Youth Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, Cricket and Rugby World Cups, World Expo and others all having been successfully hosted.

An outstanding sports infrastructure is also a major boon, with stadia that have hosted many international events accommodating up to 100,000 people.

Finally, with two consecutive appearances in the FIFA World Cup, Australia is building a passion for football.

Venues for the tournament will be spread across the country, with World Mobi this week launching a host of new guides to help potential visitors to Australia explore.

Melbourne - home to the 100,000 capacity Melbourne Cricket Ground – will be central to any successful bid, alongside Sydney, which plays host to Stadium Australia and the Sydney Football Stadium.

Perth, Brisbane, Adelaide, Newcastle, Townsville, Canberra, Geelong and the Gold Coast are all also hoping for their share of the spoils.



Japan

Aware no sporting event matches the World Cup in terms of its appeal, Japan is returning for a second bite of the cherry after hosting the tournament – in conjunction with South Korea – in 2002.

The Japanese bid is based around the idea of inclusion; with bid leaders thinking beyond football to invite people from around the globe to host the event with them.

This will be done by creating opportunities - both real and virtual - to connect the hopes of all those involved through the universal language of football.

Consumers have already embraced many things Japanese - from high technology to popular culture – but, in order to host the World Cup, the country is seeking to combine both the technological and traditional aspects of the local culture.

A total of ten stadiums have been selected by the bid organisers, situated in cities across the country.

Tokyo is home to the National Olympic and Ajinomoto Stadiums, while Osaka presently houses the Nagai Stadium with the Umeda Kita-yard Stadium to be built should the bid be successful.

Toyota is home to the 45,000 capacity Toyota Stadium, while Yokohama, Saitama, Fukuroi, Oita, Niigata, Kashima, Kobe and Sapporo are hoping to take their place on the world stage.



South Korea

South Korea, too, is advertising itself as the ideal place to host the 2022 World Cup, showcasing its world-class infrastructure - including stadiums, cutting-edge technology and an efficient transportation system.

The government is also offering to bankroll the extravaganza following the success of the 2002 FIFA World Cup in the country.

Koreans have a tremendous love of football, with the characteristics of the Korean people - teamwork, commitment, competition, and passion – all on show. The national side has also been among the most successful in the region, as one of only six countries to have achieved at least seven consecutive World Cup Finals appearances.

If the country wins hosting rights for World Cup 2022 it will be a World Cup that succeeds in crossing the demilitarised zone between north and south, with bid chairman Han Sung-joo hoping to involve North Korea in the event of a successful bid.

This could be a real asset in the view of FIFA; a World Cup that brings together a people divided by politics achieving what years of diplomacy have failed to do in bringing peace and unity to the Korean Peninsula.

With or without the involvement of North Korea, South Korea has a fantastic array of stadia on offer to host the FIFA World Cup.

Busan is home to the Busan Asiad Main Stadium, while the capital Seoul is planning to expand the World Cup Stadium – built for the 2002 tournament – to hold 80,000 spectators.

Incheon is also set to benefit, with two of the largest venues in the country - Munhak Stadium and Incheon Asiad Main Stadium – there, while Daegu, Daejeon, Gwangju, Ulsan, Suwon, Goyang, Jeonju, Cheonan and Jeju have all also been cited as possible venues.



Qatar

Finally, Qatar. The majority of the action in a Qatar FIFA World Cup would be centred on Doha, with games taking place at the existing Khalifa International and Al-Gharafa Stadiums.

Sports City Stadium, Doha Port Stadium, Qatar University Stadium, Education City Stadium would all also be built ahead of the tournament.

Al Rayyan, Al-Khawr, and Al-Wakrah Stadiums would also be used, while new construction would be undertaken in Lusail, Umm Salal and Ash-Shamal.

Qatar’s bid to host the World Cup is the only one of nine contenders to stage the event in 2018 or 2022 to receive an overall “high” operational risk rating from the sport’s governing body.

In a separate FIFA assessment of all bids made public, the Gulf state’s suitability to host sport’s most- watched event was questioned because of the “potential health risk” posed by its summer temperatures -- which can reach more than 46 degrees centigrade (115 degrees Fahrenheit) -- and challenges linked to having 12 stadiums within a 20-mile radius.



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Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:05 PM   #8617
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And Blatter reads out:

2022 goes to the U.S.A.!
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 10:08 PM   #8618
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Qatar not rely on FIFA reports becouse was expected thing by Qatar team as everyone knows that the international federations rife with corruption and political interests and fifa not far of these things and since beginning Qatar lobby countries around it is bid and didnt give chance to FIFA reports which can be effected by media and political interests and hidden dirty plans to exclusion Qatar as we saw in FIFA tries.

FIFA reports remarked Qatar only as High Risk bid !!!

while country such Korea not high risk bid !! Korea is a very risk country becouse it is in war with north korea and just yesterday the whole world saw how north korea bombed south korea boarders and killed some koreans the funny thing Korea already hosted worldcup and nobody said it is High Risk before.

USA not marked as high risk and it is very risky country for many reasons such as high state of emergency in the country for terrorist acts, weather condition since it is has states with higher temperatures than Qatar, no goverment guarantees.

South Africa hosted fifa world cup and the most funny the players and fans were in danger becouse the people hold guns in this country more than who playing football and we saw the violence since the first day there when nilson mondila didnt come opening ceremony becouse his granddaughter murdered and many other cases like the two fans attacked in their hotel room during their sleep and etc even south africa it is self they recognize the great danger and has trained large groups of people to engage in security plus the weather which many times was below zero Celsius which consider very risk on players and fans and nobody was care of this matter even the countries never played in such weather condition or fans comes from very hot parts of the world.

so distortion is not suprise for Qatar bid team and the real suprise what Qatar has been prepared for others.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 10:14 PM   #8619
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Since English is your second language, let me explain to you that "risk" in this context doesn't only refer to security. It refers (mainly) to logistics, capability, guarantees, deliverability etc etc. It's been quite clear for a long time that Qatar's bid is of a much higher risk than any of the others because of the unique nature of what it's proposing. That's not to say it can't work, but nothing like it has been tried before, and there are inherent risks in that scenario:
  1. A world cup essentially in one city - never done before
  2. A world cup in the heat of the desert - never been done before
  3. Cooling technology - not tested on the scale needed
  4. Giving the world cup to a side ranked outside the top 100 - never been done before

And then you have dependence on one airport, lack of training facilities and criticism of planned training facilities, tiny population compared to any previous host etc.

The risks are all there, plain to see. Any Qatari arguing their bid isn't risky compared to all the others is being disingenous. It is.

The question is, do the possible benfitis outweigh the obvious and clear risks a bid like Qatar's has? A first world cup in the Arab world? Giving stadiums to developed countries after the world cup? A world cup in which fans can attend more than one match per day? Some of the best looking new stadiums of any bid? I personally think these things don't outweigh the huge risk, but that's up to FIFA to decide, not me.

FIFA's report seems reasonably balanced as far as I can tell.

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Old November 23rd, 2010, 10:17 PM   #8620
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More like Blatter has his statement already prepared.

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