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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 2069. You may not vote on this poll

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Old November 26th, 2010, 07:38 PM   #8661
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2018: Spain & Portugal / England
2022: Australia / US

The key issue at play are where exactly the rumoured voting blocks will move their votes to if the preferred bid is eliminated.

Biggest questions for 2022:

- Is the rumoured Sth American voting block going to move their support to the USA, if they do vote for Qatar and it is eliminated, or does that vote go to an Asian bid, moving the vote along MBH's intentions?
- Will any 'deal' between Spain/Portugal and Qatar fall apart if the 2018 bid is lost?
- What are the intentions of the remaining African voters?
- What are the voting intentions of the remaining European voters?
- Where does the unalligned Asian vote (Thailand) go to?

I know that there is no officially proven 'deal' between Qatar and Spain/Portugal, but its getting clearer that the voting pattern will likely end up going that way. The words of the delegates from all those who were rumoured to be in that block, including the Sth American voters, all point to it panning out that way.

The main variables are peoples 2nd, 3rd and 4th preferances.

My main issue with the Australian and England bids are the early rounds. I have a feeling they both have many secondary preferences, but limited first up votes. I do feel that Holland/Belgium will go out first in 2018, but can not pick the 2022 race.
Rumor: with the US holding military exercises with South Korea this weekend, in a show to stand-up to North Korea, SOUTH Korea will reportedly throw its support behind the USA 2022 bid.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 09:51 PM   #8662
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I want England for 2018 and Australia for 2022, but I think it'll be Russia 2018, with England out in the second round, and USA 2022
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Old November 26th, 2010, 11:41 PM   #8663
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If the U.S. gets elected as the host nation, I wonder what cities could make the final cut. I'd love to see Los Angeles, Denver, San Diego, Houston, New York, Seattle, Washington, D.C., Boston, Kansas City and Dallas making the final cut, and maybe Miami instead of Denver, but Miami is the worst when it comes to public transportation .
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Old November 26th, 2010, 11:46 PM   #8664
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I want 2018 for Russia and 2022 for the United States.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 11:54 PM   #8665
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If the U.S. gets elected as the host nation, I wonder what cities could make the final cut. I'd love to see Los Angeles, Denver, San Diego, Houston, New York, Seattle, Washington, D.C., Boston, Kansas City and Dallas making the final cut, and maybe Miami instead of Denver, but Miami is the worst when it comes to public transportation .

I think the major centres of Chicago and San Francisco are a must...! Why aren't they there again??
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Old November 26th, 2010, 11:58 PM   #8666
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I think the major centres of Chicago and San Francisco are a must...! Why aren't they there again??
Chicago didn't send in a bid.

San Francisco only had Stanford. Candlestick and the Oakland Coliseum at the time (all not very desirable). The new 49ers stadium (I think a 67,000 seater) envisaged for Santa Clara was up for a vote; won the plebiscite in June, but still isn't built. USA2022 only wanted to submit venues that ARE already existing to show that it's ready to host at the drop of a hat. I hope FIFA requests that they include the Bay Area.
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Old November 27th, 2010, 12:24 AM   #8667
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So i have a question, are only 10 cities going to be chosen? Because I thought there were going to chose 12 cities out 18. :S.
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Old November 27th, 2010, 12:50 AM   #8668
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2018: England/Russia
2022: USA
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Old November 27th, 2010, 01:21 AM   #8669
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Meanwhile, Europe's equivalent to Doha, the appendix called Luxembourg, have chickened out, only for Belgium and The Netherlands to co-host.

Tumbling dice.
I don't really care. They've got nice food.

And Gondolier, Australia is also sending a navy fleet to SK, so shut the **** up, you useless troll.
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Old November 27th, 2010, 01:26 AM   #8670
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So i have a question, are only 10 cities going to be chosen? Because I thought there were going to chose 12 cities out 18. :S.
It'll get finalised after the US is picked on Friday. It'll all depend on geography, infrastructure and MLS training facilities that will be offered. For one thing, forget Phoenix, Kansas City, Baltimore and Nashville. Those four are DEFINITELY out.
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Old November 27th, 2010, 01:34 AM   #8671
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There are odds from Financial Times

2018


RUSSIA

odds 10/11

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ENGLAND

6/4

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SPAIN AND PORTUGAL

7/2

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NETHERLANDS AND BELGIUM

50/1


2022

US

odds 9/2

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AUSTRALIA

3/1

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QATAR

4/9

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JAPAN

33/1

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SOUTH KOREA

40/1


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/947b1958-f...#axzz16QuL9rYZ
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Old November 27th, 2010, 01:35 AM   #8672
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I want:

2018: England

2022: Australia


I think:

2018: Spain/Portugal

2022: USA
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Old November 27th, 2010, 01:50 AM   #8673
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The first criterion for a WC Choice is business.
USA: 307 million of inhabitants
Australia: 22 million
Qatar: 1.3 million

Don't forget TV rvenues.

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?...s-fifabusiness

The US dlegation will have big celebrities who will come to Zurich.

Gulati and his delegation have attempted to lobby the 22 voters. They’ll bring along a delegation for the final presentation that includes former President Bill Clinton, national team player Landon Donovan, former women’s team star Mia Hamm and her husband, former Boston Red Sox baseball player Nomar Garciaparra.

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-wcupbids-us

Anyone unsure of what vice-president Joe Biden does should see all the work he’s done for 2022.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/947b1958-f...#axzz16R40mjfq

Furthermore, the US bid will present after Australia and Qatar bids.
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Old November 27th, 2010, 01:51 AM   #8674
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I don't really care. They've got nice food.

And Gondolier, Australia is also sending a navy fleet to SK, so shut the **** up, you useless troll.
spot on Julia just deployed them, and they are powering north as we speak



our flagship has sadly sunk, but thats what happens when you build a battleship out of stubbies instead of tinnies

on the serious side, me thinks Russia and USA will deliver on the day, but I have a nasty feeling in the bottom of my gut that the cartel of Spain and Qatar may win
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Old November 27th, 2010, 01:57 AM   #8675
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If the U.S. gets elected as the host nation, I wonder what cities could make the final cut. I'd love to see Los Angeles, Denver, San Diego, Houston, New York, Seattle, Washington, D.C., Boston, Kansas City and Dallas making the final cut, and maybe Miami instead of Denver, but Miami is the worst when it comes to public transportation .
I think is very simple.

3 great cluster for a total of 12 stadiums (many?): one for 2-3 groups.

east coast : new york, boston, atlanta, miami
central: denver, indianapolis, kansas, dallas(houston) why isn't there chicago?
west : seattle, los angeles, phoenix and san diego.

round of 16: two in every zone

quarter: on in the most important city: (ny, los angeles, dallas, miami)

semi and final: no problem
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Old November 27th, 2010, 01:59 AM   #8676
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Can I ask what time of day the matches would have to be played in America in order for the games to be shown at a good time in East Asia?
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Old November 27th, 2010, 02:07 AM   #8677
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I think is very simple.

3 great cluster for a total of 12 stadiums (many?): one for 2-3 groups.

east coast : new york, boston, atlanta, miami
central: denver, indianapolis, kansas, dallas(houston) why isn't there chicago?
west : seattle, los angeles, phoenix and san diego.

round of 16: two in every zone

quarter: on in the most important city: (ny, los angeles, dallas, miami)

semi and final: no problem
One idea of clusters:

Two big clusters: East (A, C, E, G groups) and West (B, D, F, H)

The two first games in on cluster (East or West) and the final in the other
EEW or WWE

East: Atlantic and Central clusters
West: Midwest and Pacific clusters
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Old November 27th, 2010, 03:13 AM   #8678
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So i have a question, are only 10 cities going to be chosen? Because I thought there were going to chose 12 cities out 18. :S.
Its a flexible number-10 minimum to 12 maximum will be chosen later by FIFA and the OC
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Old November 27th, 2010, 04:52 AM   #8679
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Russia and USA!
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Old November 27th, 2010, 06:24 AM   #8680
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Can I ask what time of day the matches would have to be played in America in order for the games to be shown at a good time in East Asia?
Well I guess We would have to very late west coast games like 9 or 10 o'clock at night for the games to be shown mid after noon for china at least. Also for india you would want to have a very early 11 A.M game on the east coast for a 9:30 p.m. game in India. As for the middle east tyou would want games centrally located. Just put all the a lot of the asian teams on the west coast and central U.S. Now if we dont get the world cup in 2022 it'll be for one reason and one reason only because Australia has never hosted it. Now if Qatar gets it we all know it was rigged.
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