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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 30th, 2010, 10:13 PM   #8841
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Australia's World Cup bid has suffered a setback with Oceania not expected to vote in Thursday's ballot (Friday AM AEDT) for the 2022 tournament.

Oceania football chief Reynald Temarii has decided to press on with his appeal against a one-year suspension for ethics violations, AFP reported on Tuesday.

His decision is expected to stop acting Oceania president David Chung from replacing Temarii on FIFA's ruling panel and voting for Australia this week.
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FIFA has said that Chung could only replace Temarii if the Tahitian waives his right to appeal his suspension.

That is something Temarii is not prepared to do even if it potentially costs Oceania its voice in the vote for the 2018 and 2002 World Cups.

The Oceania representative has been mandated to vote for Australia.

The opportunity in the past few days to replace Temarii with Chung on the board had been a boost for Australia's chances of winning a majority of votes from the now 22 active members of FIFA's executive committee.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...201-18fna.html
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Old November 30th, 2010, 10:15 PM   #8842
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"Broadcast was in the public interest," declares SKY

Football pundits and journalists were up in arms this morning after SKY Sports 'carelessly and irresponsibly jeopardised the World Cup bid' by broadcasting Liverpool losing 2-1 to Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday.

http://www.dearmrlevy.com/dml/2010/1...lares-sky.html

Who wrote this article? What a piece of shit.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 01:19 AM   #8843
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Australia's World Cup bid has suffered a setback with Oceania not expected to vote in Thursday's ballot (Friday AM AEDT) for the 2022 tournament.

Oceania football chief Reynald Temarii has decided to press on with his appeal against a one-year suspension for ethics violations, AFP reported on Tuesday.

His decision is expected to stop acting Oceania president David Chung from replacing Temarii on FIFA's ruling panel and voting for Australia this week.
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FIFA has said that Chung could only replace Temarii if the Tahitian waives his right to appeal his suspension.

That is something Temarii is not prepared to do even if it potentially costs Oceania its voice in the vote for the 2018 and 2002 World Cups.

The Oceania representative has been mandated to vote for Australia.

The opportunity in the past few days to replace Temarii with Chung on the board had been a boost for Australia's chances of winning a majority of votes from the now 22 active members of FIFA's executive committee.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...201-18fna.html
Story getting around that Qatar 2022 met Tamirii in Malaysia just prior to this latest news.
If he has accepted a bribe in the order of $10-12 million such as the one he talked about 6 weeks ago then his reputation will be forever toilet paper.
He has 2 options
1-Waive his rights,be back on the FIFA ExCo in 12 months and serve there long term
This gives OFC a vote,and he would be championed for his actions in the greater good
2-Appeal,while suspended over the following 12 months,then get absolutely annihilated at the OFC election in 12 months-basically killing his career and he would be viewed by the OFC and Australia similar to how Dempsey was viewed by the South Africans

Its your choice Reynard-do the right thing because FIFA will NEVER have a revote
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Phil Thompson, a SKY pundit who happens to also support Liverpool, added, "I have handed in my resignation to SKY. The World Cup is far more important that their petty agenda to increase viewing figures. By all means show the game, but at least edit out the last 5 minutes and any footage of Paul Konchesky. Or just arrange the fixture for after the vote. Any FIFA executives that saw that on Sunday will be outraged.

http://www.dearmrlevy.com/dml/2010/1...lares-sky.html

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Old December 1st, 2010, 01:24 AM   #8845
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Story getting around that Qatar 2022 met Tamirii in Malaysia just prior to this latest news. If he has accepted a bribe in the order of $10-12 million such as the one he talked about 6 weeks ago then his reputation will be forever toilet paper.
You wouldn't be surprised would you? I don't believe he ever had any intention of voting properly in the ballot anyway. Perhaps it's a good sign for Australia that he isn't there because that casting ballot could go to Sepp Blatter, whom I believe is more reliable than the OFC member, who knows he might have been trying to follow in the footsteps of previous OFC member Charlie Dempsey.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 01:26 AM   #8846
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Who wrote this article? What a piece of shit.
It's called a joke. I think it's quite funny, actually
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Old December 1st, 2010, 02:15 AM   #8847
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It's called a joke. I think it's quite funny, actually
It's a brilliant piece and extremely funny, just picturing Phil Thompson saying that makes me chuckle
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Old December 1st, 2010, 02:41 AM   #8848
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England 2018 clear a path to victory in World Cup battle

There now looks a good chance that England will have at least six supporters in the first round, although the hope of seven seems unlikely.

The six England are depending on to get through the first round are their own Geoff Thompson, the CONCACAF trio of Jack Warner, Chuck Blazer and Rafael Salguero, Turkey's Senes Erzik and Japan's Junji Ogura.

Then the 'clear path to victory' being mapped out would see England pick up two or even three of the eliminated Holland/Belgium backers, expected to be Belgium's Michel D'Hooghe, France's Michel Platini and Chung Mong-joon, of Korea.

The new recruits would be enough to take England past the Russians in the second ballot and into a final shoot-out against Spain. And there are sure to be more defectors from the Russian camp to the English cause, especially with the clear Russian frustration over the Spain-Qatar vote-trading alliance.

On Tuesday night, Oceania's David Chung heard he would not get FIFA clearance to be the 23rd man around the table in FIFA House

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...up-battle.html
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Old December 1st, 2010, 07:04 AM   #8849
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FIFA v IOC by timezone

The IOC seems far more equitable

World Cup by TIMEZONE since broadcasting began

The 3 scenario's
1954 Europe (Switzerland+1)
1958 Europe(Sweden+1)
1962 Americas (Chile-4)
1966 Europe(England+0)
1970 Americas (Mexico-6/-8)
1974 Europe (Germany +1)
1978 Americas (Argentina-3)
1982 Europe (Spain+1)
1986 Americas (Mexico-6/-8)
1990 Europe (Italy+1)
1994 Americas (UnitedStates-5/-8)
1998 Europe (France+1)
2002 Asia (SouthKorea+9/Japan+9)
2006 Europe (Germany+1)
2010 Europe (SouthAfrica+2)
2014 Americas (Brazil-2/-4)
2018 Europe (England/Spain/Netherlands+1/Russia+3)
2022 Europe(Qatar+3)

11 Europe,6 Americas,1 Asia.


1954 Europe (Switzerland+1)
1958 Europe(Sweden+1)
1962 Americas (Chile-4)
1966 Europe(England+0)
1970 Americas (Mexico-6/-8)
1974 Europe (Germany +1)
1978 Americas (Argentina-3)
1982 Europe (Spain+1)
1986 Americas (Mexico-6/-8)
1990 Europe (Italy+1)
1994 Americas (UnitedStates-5/-8)
1998 Europe (France+1)
2002 Asia (SouthKorea+9/Japan+9)
2006 Europe (Germany+1)
2010 Europe (SouthAfrica+2)
2014 Americas (Brazil-2/-4)
2018 Europe (England/Spain/Netherlands+1/Russia+3)
2022 Americas (UnitedStates-5/-8)

10 Europe,7 Americas,1 Asia,


1954 Europe (Switzerland+1)
1958 Europe(Sweden+1)
1962 Americas (Chile-4)
1966 Europe(England+0)
1970 Americas (Mexico-6/-8)
1974 Europe (Germany +1)
1978 Americas (Argentina-3)
1982 Europe (Spain+1)
1986 Americas (Mexico-6/-8)
1990 Europe (Italy+1)
1994 Americas (UnitedStates-5/-8)
1998 Europe (France+1)
2002 Asia (SouthKorea+9/Japan+9)
2006 Europe (Germany+1)
2010 Europe (SouthAfrica+2)
2014 Americas (Brazil-2/-4)
2018 Europe (England+0,Spain,Netherlands+1/Russia+3)
2022 Asia (Australia+8/+10,SouthKorea+9,Japan+9)

10 Europe,6 Americas,2 Asia,



Olympics by timezone since broadcasting began


1960-Europe-Rome
1964-Asia-Tokyo
1968-Americas-Mexico City
1972-Europe-Munich
1976-Americas-Montreal
1980-Europe-Moscow
1984-Americas-Los Angeles
1988-Asia-Seoul
1992-Europe-Barcelona
1996-Americas-Atlanta
2000-Asia-Sydney
2004-Europe-Athens
2008-Asia-Beijing
2012-Europe-London
2016-Americas-Rio de Janiero

6 Europe,5 Americas,4 Asia
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Old December 1st, 2010, 07:21 AM   #8850
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I can't find any articles saying anyone has been eliminated?
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Old December 1st, 2010, 07:35 AM   #8851
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i want england, this could be a great world cup, in every sence, just like brazil, but i thing the winning bid will be portugal-spain
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I can't find any articles saying anyone has been eliminated?
Well Qatar definitely should have been eliminated alongside Spain/Portugal
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Old December 1st, 2010, 09:50 AM   #8853
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looking grim for Australia now

word getting strong here that Qatar has bought off Temerii, so OFC have no chance of getting their vote back now

also rumours Qatar is looking firmer by the day...

this is going to sound seriously naive, but are the exco that selfish they would put their own personal interests ahead of the ability to actually conduct a viable WC?

and its not viable having 1m tourists running from stadium to hotels and the odd shopping mall to avoid the heat
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Old December 1st, 2010, 10:00 AM   #8854
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ZURICH: World Cups held in England and the United States would meet all of FIFA's projected revenue targets and deliver bigger profits to world soccer's governing body than any of their competitors, according to a confidential report.

Both England, who are bidding for the 2018 finals, and the US, bidding for 2022, were given an unbeatable overall 100 percent rating by management consultants McKinsey.

McKinsey were commissioned by FIFA to analyses each bid across five key revenue streams: sponsorship, ticketing, hospitality, licensing and media rights.

The report, which does not reveal FIFA's projected target figure, just each country's potential to meet it, has been sent to the 22 FIFA members who will decide the destinations of the two World Cups on Thursday.

It will be discussed by the executive committee for the first time on Wednesday.

The report, entitled FIFA's World Cup Host Candidate Assessment, gave England an overall 100 percent rating for 2018, followed by Spain/Portugal with 91 percent, Netherlands/Belgium 87 percent and Russia 86 percent.

For 2022, it rated the United States top with an overall 100 percent evaluation, followed by Japan with 73 percent, South Korea 71 percent, Qatar 70 percent, and Australia on 68 percent.

HIGHEST REVENUE POTENTIAL

England scored 100 percent in all five of the revenue stream areas, while the United States scored 100 percent in four.

All the European candidates for 2018 scored 100 percent in media rights because McKinsey did not see a variation in revenue potential as all countries fall into the same European time zone for broadcasting matches.

The biggest difference in any 2018 revenue stream came in hospitality in which England again scored 100 percent and Russia 56 percent.

England also had the highest revenue potential in licensing and merchandising, likely to hit 100 percent of its target figure, while Netherlands/Belgium scored 73 percent.

The report comes as a huge boost to England's bid for 2018 in particular, following the BBC's Panorama TV programme screened on Monday evening in the United Kingdom which alleged corruption at the head of world soccer's governing body.

The McKinsey report comes after the publication of FIFA's Technical Evaluation reports following the visit of its inspectors in which England were also given the highest rating by the inspection team.

Andy Anson, the chief executive of England's bid campaign, told a media briefing on Monday that the team had been encouraged by the report, without going into the details.

"FIFA gave us a very strong technical evaluation. FIFA have now had an economic study and England comes out way ahead of its competitors in that study, and we clearly have the strongest bid for 2018 -- its the perfect foundation.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 10:17 AM   #8855
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Thats pretty damning to Australia. This all goes over my head but still not good.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 10:18 AM   #8856
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looking grim for Australia now

word getting strong here that Qatar has bought off Temerii, so OFC have no chance of getting their vote back now

also rumours Qatar is looking firmer by the day...

this is going to sound seriously naive, but are the exco that selfish they would put their own personal interests ahead of the ability to actually conduct a viable WC?

and its not viable having 1m tourists running from stadium to hotels and the odd shopping mall to avoid the heat
Where is word getting out?
Still makes sense though.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 10:24 AM   #8857
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also rumours Qatar is looking firmer by the day..
Just a question, how exactly does Qatar look better now? As far as I can tell, assuming their collusion pact stands firm, they still only have 8 votes. Once it's a two-horse race between Qatar and the US, the Oz voters will give the US a comfortable win.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 10:42 AM   #8858
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looking grim for Australia now

word getting strong here that Qatar has bought off Temerii, so OFC have no chance of getting their vote back now

also rumours Qatar is looking firmer by the day...

this is going to sound seriously naive, but are the exco that selfish they would put their own personal interests ahead of the ability to actually conduct a viable WC?

and its not viable having 1m tourists running from stadium to hotels and the odd shopping mall to avoid the heat
I wouldn't say it was looking grim mate,but it is apparent that it isn't a level playing field.We are dealing with a sectarian dictatorship who will corrupt at every opportunity.

Its incredible that MBH has once again been at the centre of things by meeting Temarii in Malaysia a few days ago,with only 1 objective-to stop Temarii from giving the OFC a vote.
So far the $10 million+ club include
Zinidine Zidane
Reynard Temarii
Worawi Makuddi
Hany Abo Rida
$5 million
Derin Seale
Burston-Marsteller
Kroll
$3 million
Brazil National team
Argentina National team
$2 million
Alex Ferguson
Pep Guardiola
Gabriel Batistuta
Roger Milla
Ronald De Boer
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Where is word getting out?
Still makes sense though.
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Temarii had made a 36-hour return trip from Auckland to Kuala Lumpur — staying for one night in the Mandarin Oriental Hotel — ahead of the weekend OFC summit in New Zealand for a meeting with Qatar’s FIFA powerbroker Mohamed bin Hammam.

It would have been very much in 2022 bidders Qatar’s interest if Temarii’s appeal had ruled Chung out of the vote as his 2022 vote is guaranteed for Australia.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ew-Guinea.html
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Latest twitter from Oliver Kay

# Sudden flush of English optimism in Zurich tonight re 2018. Still far too many ifs and buts though. Genuine 3-horse race about 8 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

# As for 2022, USA emerging as clear favourites. Would never have said this pre-94, but they're the obvious choice again about 8 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

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