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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:00 AM   #8981
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That's the best bidder!
And I agree.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:07 AM   #8982
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Do you show the white flag?

Do you think Russia will lose?
Yes. Let's imagine that in Euro2012 Russian team will play in one group against England, Spain and Netherlands. Of course, we all (Russian fans) expect to see a serious struggle in the matches. But a week before the start of tournament, we learn that our leaders (Arshavin, Zhirkov or Pavlyuchenko) will not play for the our team. Of course, there will be some theoretical chances to pass group round in this case, but everyone understands that this will unreal.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:12 AM   #8983
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Yes. Let's imagine that in Euro2012 Russian team will play in one group against England, Spain and Netherlands. Of course, we all (Russian fans) expect to see a serious struggle in the matches. But a week before the start of tournament, we learn that our leaders (Arshavin, Zhirkov or Pavlyuchenko) will not play for the our team. Of course, there will be some theoretical chances to pass group round in this case, but everyone understands that this will unreal.
Which is the reason for Putin changed his mind and didn't move to Zurich? He understoo that England is so strong or other reasons?
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:32 AM   #8984
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Australia: 4/10 were was football in the presentation?
Qatar: 8/10
South Korea: 9/10
USA: 7/10
Japan:10/10

I don't know were some here saw emotion in the US Bid. It was like a boring business presentation with too much emphasize on how much money Fifa can make if they choose the US.
Japan was the best imo. They brought some new wind with their ideas. Especially those mega 3D screens and these phones. It would be an awesome world cup for the fans.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:34 AM   #8985
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Birmingham City fans have invaded the pitch and thrown flares at rival Aston Villa supporters following their Carling Cup win.

Riot police moved in to quell the violence that erupted minutes after Birmingham won 2-1 at its St Andrews stadium.

The invasion comes just hours before Fifa decide if England is fit to host the 2018 World Cup.

Sky news sports reporter Chris Skudder, who was at the game, said: "This is not what the 2018 bid team wanted to happen tonight.

"It's been a very volatile fixture down the years.

"My understanding is there were concerns from the FA and the 2018 team with this fixture coming so close to the vote in Zurich - it wouldn't be helpful knowing the history of the fixture.

"What we saw at the end were not the kind of scenes they would have wanted to see in Zurich.

"While we didn't see violence in the scenes it was not far from that."

Sky News sports correspondent Ian Dovaston, in Zurich, said: "David Cameron and Prince William, both Villa fans, will be sorely disappointed that those scenes are happening.

"But I think its one that can be written out as a fairly random incident."
It all looked like handbags but I wonder how this will affect tomorrows decision...
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:42 AM   #8986
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So rare in this country now but horrible timing. Bloody idiots.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:57 AM   #8987
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Good presentation by USA, they brought some of their best speakers.
The only problem i see with that bid is the huge distances.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:00 AM   #8988
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The thing with pitch invasions is that it's usually just a handful of idiots who run on first for the shits and giggles but as soon as the young'uns see it they follow suit and run on themselves - making things look alot worse than they actually are. Then as soon as the media get hold of it they're on it straight away claiming fans have been 'rioting'. Or at least that's the case when it has happened in my time following Carlisle Utd when there is pitch invasions nigh on every season.

Obviously I can't condone the throwing of flare(s), though.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:20 AM   #8989
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On a day when rival bidders somberly pleaded to being peace to war-torn regions with a World Cup, Australia went for a vastly different strategy of playfulness and humour in Zurich.

Presenting first of five bidders, Paul Hogan was among a roll-call of Aussies whose fame abroad was harnessed to re-inforce Australia’s nature as friendly hosts.

At the core of the 30-minute presentation was a Phillip Noyce-made film about the adventure of a cartoon kangaroo stealing the World Cup and being chased around the country by a Mad Max character.

Oddly enough, he’d been dispatched personally by Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

Major iconic Australian imagery was ticked off during the pursuit.

The kangaroo surfed into a Bondi Beach patrolled by Ian Thorpe, swam in the Barrier Reef and Sydney Harbour (yes, swam), ran along with Cathy Freeman on the Great Ocean Road and played with indigenous kids at Uluru.

By the end the pursuing Mad Max character finally caught up with the Roo, and when the mysterious bike rider whipped off his helmet it was Hogan.

He swiftly whipped on a a Crocodile Dundee hat and reclaimed the World Cup..

Absent from the presentation, Prime Minister Gillard apologised to FIFA for the mischievous Kangaroo: "We want the World Cup, but not that way."

It was a stereotypical, colourful and ever-so-slightly cheesy representation of Australia. But that was, apparently, the FFA plan.

First off the mark, Australia’s bid team aimed at firmly claiming the 'fun' end of the scale.

They did that but perhaps at the expense of delivering a compelling reason for any swing voters to tick Australia’s box in voting later tonight.

Speeches were simple and re-delivered key messages but the most convincing words came from Lowy when he moved off script.

Speaking candidly to the FIFA executive committee members by asking them to make a decision based on more than statistics.

"One thing can not be put on paper, it is emotions," Lowy said.

"You can see how emotional I am about the game and you will see how emotional Australia is about the game."

The involvement of supermodel Elle MacPherson was brief and played a little awkward. Her role was to thank Lowy for his contribution to Australian football but unsurprisingly it wasn’t overly convincing. The Body’s bombshell factor was not to be seen either with a demure black dress.

FFA chief executive Ben Buckley made a pointed barb towards rivals Qatar, who will have to air-condition their stadiums due to the 40-plus degree temperatures if they win the 2022 bid.

"All our venues will enjoy a natural climate," Buckley declared.

Governor General Quentin Bryce spoke eloquently about Australia’s commitment to hosting a strong World Cup.

A passable presentation but perhaps lacking in the power of vision and emotion.

IN A WORD: Shrimp-on-the-barbie

SCORE: 7.5

KOREA

This was a very long half hour - worthy but verging on the depressive. Please give us the World Cup or you might end up with World War III was the gist of the many long speeches from current and former politicians - no pressure on FIFA's ExCo then.

The imagery was stark - constant reminders of how Korea has been divided for 65 years and seemingly constantly on the verge of military confrontation. There was little of Seoul's neon brightness in evidence, and the ExCo could have been forgiven for feeling a little worn down by the sheer worthiness of it all.

Even the videos were short and uninspired. Not a winning contribution.

IN A WORD: Grim

SCORE: 5.5

AMERICA

Of all the people, of all the speeches, you'd put your house on Morgan Freeman delivering a perfect pitch to the ExCo - but somehow the Academy Award winner missed out a page and stumbled badly. It was a rare glitch, though, in a smooth and very persuasive half-hour. Any presentation helps from a video from the US President, but the speech of US player Landon Donovan was just as impressive.

The statistics were impressive across the board - participation, TV audiences, attendances. Yet the films made great play of the progress soccer has made in the US since the 1994 World Cup there - the not so subtle message being, imagine what we could do with another one.

And then they introduced the trump card at the end, Bill Clinton - only for the former President to deliver a monotonous and rambling speech that had little to do with America or even football. When an Oscar winner and the most successful political performer of the modern age both get it wrong, the US bid might wonder if it's fated.

IN A WORD: Cut!

SCORE: 7

JAPAN

When an English CEO of Sony got up to talk and spoke about playing rugby at private school, you got the sense Japan’s bid was just a bit off the rails.

But as the boss of a leading technology company, the executive’s role was in keeping with the only real selling point of the Japanese bid: whiz-bang new gadgets.

Japan’s major promise for 2022 is to roll out a new technology that’d allow people around the world to watch games via 3D holographs in their home stadiums.

They’d set down a massive glass screen on Wembley’s field, for example, and watch Princess Leia-like players running around. The fact that if such technology exists by 2022 other nations could deploy it as well was ignored.

So too, largely was the fact Japan co-hosted the 2002 World Cup. What World Cup?

"Our bid is very, very simple," said the optimistic Japanese bid chief.

He should have said: "Help me Obe-Wan. You’re my only hope".

IN A WORD: Advertising

SCORE: 4

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and I have a personal score for one bid in particular

Qatar - utter rubbish, a squiggle to show unproven technologies, using another countries national team to promote your football, showed skyscrapers popping up and desert as some of sort of tourist attractions, I saw China's television time being 11.30pm to midnight if broadcast there, fans been squashed into a perfect area for terrorism, I don't think anyone was convinced by that video of the garbage bid that this truly is anything but an extreme risk piece of trash that nobody should touch with a ten foot pole. Try qualifying for a world cup first.

SCORE: 0
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:24 AM   #8990
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It was a joke when Qatar showed the broadcast catchment
The absolute majority of matches hit the biggest market at 3am-how is that primetime

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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:25 AM   #8991
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WTF is with this ratings? Japan 4 and Australia 7.5?
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:25 AM   #8992
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Good presentation by USA, they brought some of their best speakers.
The only problem i see with that bid is the huge distances.
http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2010/...ustralia-qatar

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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:34 AM   #8993
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So the Kangaroo the Australian Icon ruined their bid. Lol joy.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:34 AM   #8994
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Japan presentation is a shame!

they present their technology trough sony like they would present the ps5 at E3 !!!
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:39 AM   #8995
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:58 AM   #8996
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It was a joke when Qatar showed the broadcast catchment
The absolute majority of matches hit the biggest market at 3am-how is that primetime

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Australia is the last continent on the planet that hasn't hosted it, Qatar FAIL for the vote riggers with the extreme risk report. FIFA wants to develop Chinese football not put them to asleep again for another world cup.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 02:01 AM   #8997
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When the United States was awarded the 1994 World Cup the national team hadn't qualified for a World Cup since 1950. In fact, there were rumblings that had the U.S. not qualified for the 1990 World Cup FIFA would have taken the 1994 hosting rights away and given them to another country. There was no professional outdoor soccer league in 1994 and even now some lament the lack of atmosphere at the stadiums during the tournament, despite the seats at all the large stadiums being packed.

FIFA took a chance when they awarded the U.S. the 1994 World Cup and it spurred a growth of the game in the U.S. that led to the creation of Major League Soccer and can be attributed for much of the sports' success now. One thing that the U.S. bid committee has made clear is how successful the 1994 World Cup was in building up the sport in the U.S. and how hosting the 2022 World Cup would take the sport to whole new levels in the country, which is a fair argument. Isn't it just as fair of an argument that other countries should have the opportunity to take the step that the U.S. took in 1994 before the U.S. gets another turn though?

Japan and South Korea's bids have been dismissed by many because the two countries joint-hosted the 2002 World Cup, but how about Qatar? Well they have several problems facing there bid and many have attributed their continued competition in the bidding a farce, but that still leaves Australia.

Like the U.S., Australia has a burgeoning national soccer league. The A-League was created in 2005 and just months later the Australian national team defeated Uruguay in a penalty shootout in front of 82,000+ Aussies to secure their first spot in a World Cup since 1974. With the growth of the game in a country that some have called the most sports mad per capita in the world, taking the World Cup to Australia for the first time ever is an intriguing possibility.

Unlike some other bidders, there is no chance of the World Cup stadiums becoming white elephants following the event thanks to the growth of the sport in Australia and the prominence of rugby and Australian Rules Football that will keep stadiums in use for decades. Australia has also proven to be a fantastic host of mega-events after a stunning 2000 Olympics in Sydney and 2003 Rugby World Cup among other events. Cities like Melbourne and Sydney are recognized around the world and as a modern, first world country, there are few infrastructure or transportation problems.

With a strong bid, from stadiums to infrastructure, and the ability to spread the game to a new country, why shouldn't Australia host the World Cup in 2022? Not only would Australia host the even for the first time, but it would be the first time that the Oceanic region got to host a World Cup, even if for football reasons Australia is considered part of Asia by FIFA. Fresh off of taking the event to Africa in 2010 and returning the event to South America for the first time in decades, the World Cup can go to Australia and Oceania for the first time in 2022, the same way that the U.S. got their first go around in 1994.

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Old December 2nd, 2010, 02:32 AM   #8999
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It's probably so much make up she put on to hide her ugliness. Even though with the make is a 6/10.
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