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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 10:41 AM   #9041
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We won the World cup in 98, followed by the UEFA Euro victory in 2000 (our second one after 1984) and we were runner-up of the 2006 World Cup ... France is not that bad you know, amigo !
Yes I know and I was in France in 98 with my french friends...
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 10:45 AM   #9042
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Go Iberia!! Vamos Iberia!!

some small things.....without importance

We are the World Champions

We are the European Champions (like a World Cup without Brasil and Argentina)

We have the biggest stadium in Europe (Nou Camp)

We have the football temples

We have the most popular clubs in Europe. Real Madrid and Barça.

1. FC Barcelona – 57,8 (mll supp)
2. Real Madrid – 31,3
3. Man. United – 30,6
4. Chelsea – 21,4
5. Bayern Munich – 20,

most successful club in the world. 9 Champions League. Real Madrid

Most successful club in this decade. Barcelona.

Tourist in Spain (52 mill in 2009, 57 mill in 2009)

World Cup Spain 1982, Barcelona 1992, Portugal 2004..etc...
Two major problem with Iberia's bid, though:

1. There have only been 3 World Cups hosted in Europe since Spain lasted hosted the World Cup. Truth is, it's not Spain's turn.

2. If there must be joint bids, they should only be from countries such as Holland and Belgium who couldn't hope to host on their own but who could host jointly and equally. Spain could easily host on its own. And it is quite, quite wrong that Portugal is such a junior partner in the bid, with only three stadiums and two cities included.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 10:53 AM   #9043
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I just watched Holland / Belgium's presentation.

I have to say, I thought it was very poor. No focus.

Cruyff talking about obesity and getting kids playing sport again rather than computer games. A fine sentiment...............but what did it say about the Holland / Belgium bid? Absolutely nothing.

Sneijder, Lukaku and Gullit talking about fans riding bikes. Gimmicky.

Footage of a 1986 TV interview with Jean Marie Pfaff but with new dialogue dubbed in. What?????

Guus Hiddinck repeatedly forgetting to mention Belgium in his speech.

Overall, not in the least bit impressive, sadly.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 11:06 AM   #9044
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Two major problem with Iberia's bid, though:

1. There have only been 3 World Cups hosted in Europe since Spain lasted hosted the World Cup. Truth is, it's not Spain's turn.

2. If there must be joint bids, they should only be from countries such as Holland and Belgium who couldn't hope to host on their own but who could host jointly and equally. Spain could easily host on its own. And it is quite, quite wrong that Portugal is such a junior partner in the bid, with only three stadiums and two cities included.
Yes this is our problem.

Portugal in 2006 or 2007 had the idea about the World Cup, and Portugal is a small country and they asked Spain about this. They are our brothers/friends...
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 11:34 AM   #9045
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OK, the video was very good and superbly detailed, but these speeches are getting very dull.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 11:38 AM   #9046
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Someone unplug this guy!! Jeesh, this is going on and on and on
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 11:40 AM   #9047
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Now he's sucking up to FIFA, saying their clean "despite what others may say" - what a jerk - and now a video, erm, half an hour guys!!!
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 11:42 AM   #9048
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So I take it all matches during Spain/Portugal 2018 will be the regulation 120 mins?
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 11:53 AM   #9049
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Now he's sucking up to FIFA, saying their clean "despite what others may say" - what a jerk - and now a video, erm, half an hour guys!!!
Flattery will get you everywhere!

The Iberian bid president spent his entire speech flattering FIFA and its work in general and then the ExCo members in particular. This is a man who knows and understands FIFA perfectly. He knows what he's doing. He knows how well his words will play. Very, very clever. Because, sadly, I suspect that an appeal to the ExCo members' vanity and a forceful defence of their integrity will hold more sway than a well presented bid ever could.

Also very clever that he praised all the other bids before pointedly alluding to the Sunday Times / Panorama allegations - clearly an attempt to damage the England bid while appearing to praise it.

Overall, a much more professional bid than the BeNe bid. Unlike the BeNe bid, they stuck to the point and communicated the key strengths of the bid.

A bit dry, though. Not much of an appeal to the heart.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:05 PM   #9050
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Here we go!
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:08 PM   #9051
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You know one day you'll be singing "God save the King" for this guy, right?
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:11 PM   #9052
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:13 PM   #9053
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According to BFMTV, Eurosport and France Info:
- England seems now ahead (again ?) for 2018: Russia's bid seems too weak about transportation and hotels and FIFA doesn't want combined bids any longer.
- USA should get 2022 because FIFA expect a Chinease bid for 2026...and because Blatter still pretend that 2018 should have been hosted in CONCACAF.
- After 2018, FIFA WC won't come back to Europe before 2034: it's generally admited that the 100 years WC in 2030 will took place in Uruguay and Argentina. So, if England wants to host WC, it's 2018.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:17 PM   #9054
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Torres... Nani...


EDIT: Nani again...
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:25 PM   #9055
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This is as good as London 2012's so far. I'm so impressed with this, really happy.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:33 PM   #9056
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BACK OF THE NET!!
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:35 PM   #9057
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Someone unplug this guy!! Jeesh, this is going on and on and on
Aye, that guy (head of Spanish FA?) came off as just desperate and creepy with his whole FIFA delegates are such hard workers and victims of media persecution blah blah blah.....

Despite that its a toss up between Spanish and the English presentations, wonder what Russia's will be like (hopefully much more interesting than their moscow olympic bid presentation)
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:39 PM   #9058
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query for the wiser minds out there (esp those who haven't been hitting the red tonight like me )

will the exco delegates know the confirmed 2018 result before they start voting for 2022?

if so, what happens if England gets up? Seems they have a wet sail over the last few days, and by some miracle may be back in the game.

if Spain fails to win, what happens to the Qatari deal?
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:44 PM   #9059
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Screw Qatar and Spain/Portugal cheating scum vote riggers.

Come on England far out David Cameron was good.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:46 PM   #9060
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Quite good by England.

In terms of effectiveness, on a par with Iberia's presentation, I'd say, though I'd have preferred them to be slightly more humble. The presentation occasionally came across as boastful, IMO.

One question:

The promise to spend as much as FIFA on football development around the world..........................isn't that a form of bribery?????
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