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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 02:59 PM   #9121
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According to William Hill, Russia is not a favorite anymore. The coefficients on Russia victory greatly soared (Russian chances fell), English coefficients were greatly increased.

Off-top: Putin ordered today's flight to Zurich in case of success (!???).
William Hill is a British-based betting company. They are always biased in favour of British wins.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:01 PM   #9122
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Well Fifa don't like joint bids so i'd be surprised to see it there. If Iberia wins we get to see football in great weather and i get to go on a nice holiday for some football.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:02 PM   #9123
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England 12
Russia 10

Australia 13
USA 9
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England 13
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USA 12
Australia 10
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:02 PM   #9124
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According to William Hill, Russia is not a favorite anymore. The coefficients on Russia victory greatly soared (Russian chances fell), English coefficients were greatly increased.

Off-top: Putin ordered today's flight to Zurich in case of success (!???).
I wouldn't pay any attention to a British bookmakers' odds. The odds only reflect the amount of risk to which the bookmaker is exposed. And since English punters are far more likely to bet on England's bid (rather than any of the others) winning, it's only natural that England's odds have shortened.

I would imagine that you could get much longer odds on England winning if you went to a Spanish or Russian bookmaker.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:06 PM   #9125
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south korea and spain&portugal was best presentations
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:08 PM   #9126
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Well Fifa don't like joint bids so i'd be surprised to see it there. If Iberia wins we get to see football in great weather and i get to go on a nice holiday for some football.
Totally agreed about that!

But it would also mean that the next World Cup that England could possible host would be 2034. And by the time that bidding for that World Cup comes around, the case for Russia, to name just one, will be even more compelling than it is now.

So if England failed again, that would mean 2046 would be the next likely opportunity - 80 years since last hosting!

So, for that reason, if England don't win 2018, I'd like Russia to win.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:11 PM   #9127
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Just caught up on England's presentation. Not sure I can handle watching the others.....I'm a bag of nerves now. Keep trying to convince myself that it doesn't really matter where it goes - I went to Germany 2006 and I'd equally love a trip to Russia, Belgium/Holland or Iberia in 2018 (plus my little boy will turn 10 in 2018, which for me is the perfect age - the same age I was in Mexico '86 with the hand of god et al). But the chance to see it in your own backyard is something extra special, especially in your own City...

Thought the pres went really well, better than expected. Beckham performed admirably, the black guy (was it Freddie?) was very good, and David Cameron, well... what can I say? Very engaging indeed. I really couldn't stand the bloke when he was running for PM, but he has grown on me so much. He actually shares a lot of the same qualities that Tony Blair had/has. Quite likeable and charming, yet manages to come across very genuine at the same time. Not quite same league as TB, but he has been a big plus for England's bid imo.

Andy Anson was probably the weakest, along with Prince William, but they were both decent enough, just not up to the level of the others.

I thought the videos were good, and rich in feel good factor. I was slightly concerned that we were overplaying certain things such as facilities, big teams, big players, 'we could host tomorrow' etc etc.. but in hindsight, why they hell not? We're there to sell the thing and those are our strengths. We had to come out all guns blazing after all the debris we've had to wade through this last year and good on the team, I say.

Really have no idea which way it'll go. To repeat what some others have said, if it isn't England I'd prefer not to Spain. I'm not gonna go into the reasons as I need to go and make myself a big cup of tea!

These last few months I honestly thought it was nailed on for Russia, but for some unknown reason, yesterday I had this growing feeling that we had the momentum and today would be a fantastic day.

Anyway, here's to all the bids

Good luck!!
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:11 PM   #9128
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As I understand it, the first thing we will hear will be the name of the winner.

I guess that it's likely that we will subsequently hear how many votes each bid received at each stage of voting.
Apparently not.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:12 PM   #9129
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BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce on Twitter: "If Fifa stick to their word and keep the numbers for each round of voting secret then this process will be less transparent than ever. In the past Fifa have released the voting numbers for each round."
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:16 PM   #9130
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Apparently not.
Yeah.....I just read what Rob posted.

But it's still possible that the info will be leaked into the public domain, I would have thought.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:16 PM   #9131
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this fifa stuff is so boring :/
So boring that we have already 460 pages...
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:17 PM   #9132
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Russia was fantastic until the final speaker who struggled not only with the language(understandably) but in much the same manner as Clinton yesterday-rambled off track.
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Totally agreed.

A great pity because Russia's was otherwise the most compelling of the presentations, IMO (am I allowed to say that, kidrobot? Did it contribute anything to the thread? ).
Unfourtunately, I can not watch TV at the workplace. But if was really so, then it only proves that Mr. Putin on his place would have looked much stronger.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:22 PM   #9133
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Unfourtunately, I can not watch TV at the workplace. But if was really so, then it only proves that Mr. Putin on his place would have looked much stronger.
Absolutely agree.Apparently it was he who nearly single-handedly got Sochi
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:39 PM   #9134
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Go Russia 2018 !

Best presentation! Best choice! For FIFA! For World Football!
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:41 PM   #9135
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im quite nervous
I really happy belgium-netherlands will win..
it would be nice.. everything close to eachother.. a great WC for sure...
maybe not the most fancy one.. but a great atmosphere for sure.. in the whole 2 countries entirely, not only around the stadiums...
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:41 PM   #9136
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I tell you something ... If Spain win this i'll be gobsmacked. Their press are reporting they have 9 votes in the bag already ...

That leaves just 13 to fight for between the other 3 ...
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:57 PM   #9137
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I tell you something ... If Spain win this i'll be gobsmacked. Their press are reporting they have 9 votes in the bag already ...

That leaves just 13 to fight for between the other 3 ...
They have 8.Their problem is that thats about as good as it gets.The anti Qatar-Spain sentiment is very strong
The advantage of having so many votes early is the ability to orchestrate the early departure of a dangerous opponent.
The final two for '18 will be Spain and-England/Russia
It can't be England and Russia in the final two
Same in '22,Qatar will make the final two---but its highly unlikely they will win
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BBC Sport: We haven't had much in the way of info from Zurich since the presentations ended - blame Fifa's secret ballot for that. But, with just over an hour to go until the winners are announced, here's some breaking news - and it is quite encouraging too. BBC Sport's editor David Bond says a Fifa executive committee member has told him that England's presentation has made a "big difference". How big? We will have to wait and see...
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 04:02 PM   #9139
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I'm not getting my hopes up
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 04:04 PM   #9140
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Forget 'how big' - I'm more concerned whether it's a positive or a negative difference..

The BBC should stay waaaay cear of Zurich as well!
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