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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 01:32 PM   #81
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Would be good, but I cant see England losing the 2018 world cup.
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 01:47 PM   #82
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Why would Australia have to co-host any bid? The attendances at the recent Rugby World Cup were phenomenol. I am pretty sure that with ex pat communities for several competing nations of the finals, would swell many venues.
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 02:27 PM   #83
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Yeah, Australia doesn't need NZ for a world cup bid.

I think a 2018 World Cup would be awesome, Australian football is on the up. The A-league has had a successful opening season and Australia making Germany 06 is just the start of the boom.

Infrastructure and stadia wise the country is almost ready as is. Ofcourse there will be 2 or 3 stadiums built and a couple of others upgraded... all of which is no problem for Australia.

Potential Venues
Telstra Stadium 85,000 (Sydney)
Aussie Stadium 42,000 (Sydney) - easily upgraded to 55,000 if need be
MCG 100,000 (Melbourne)
Telstra Dome 55,000 (Melbourne)
Suncorp Stadium 53,000 (Brisbane)
Robina Stadium 40,000 (Gold Coast - upgraded)
Canberra Stadium 35,000 (Canberra - upgraded)
EA Stadium 35,000 (Newcastle - upgrade already in progress)
Perth Stadium 50,000 (Perth - new stadium)
Adelaide Stadium 45,000 (Adelaide - new stadium)

That's 10 venues, with only 2 new stadiums needed to be built for the World Cup. In fact, if Members Equity in Perth and Hindmarsh Stadium in Adelaide can be upgraded to over 40,000 each, then those new stadiums needn't be built.

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Old November 22nd, 2005, 04:00 PM   #84
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No it wouldn't be good for 2018, that's too early. Australia had had it's fair share of major sporting events over the years - Olympics, Rugby world cup, Commonwealth games etc and football is not their major sport so wouldn't generate as much passion. A lot of the stadia there at the moment are not true football stadiums so that would need improvement. I think it is about time England hosted the world cup, considering we created the sport and have only hosted the event once. Our stadia would be ideal for the world cup un 2018 especially with the new wembley, emirates etc. I think Australia might have a chance in something like 2026, when they might have had more success in the tournament and entused their nation about the game. Plus it is awful for Europe when the time zone is so far ahead of GMT.
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 04:01 PM   #85
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I would support this bid for 2018, and plus FIFA wants new countries to host, I think Australia/New Zealand would be favorites.
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 04:07 PM   #86
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In the World Cup every stadium has to have a capacity of at least 30,000 byt I'm sure that both would be able to cover that. The thing England on its own has nearly 20 stadiums that have a capacity of over 30,000 with fantastic facilities so I don't see England losing there.
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 04:32 PM   #87
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In the World Cup every stadium has to have a capacity of at least 30,000 byt I'm sure that both would be able to cover that. The thing England on its own has nearly 20 stadiums that have a capacity of over 30,000 with fantastic facilities so I don't see England losing there.
Are you sure about that? I thought World Cup stadia now had to have a minimum capacity of 40,000. If I recall correctly, it is only the European Championships which require a minimum capacity of 30,000.

On the subject of 2018, I doubt that Australia (with or without New Zealand) would be favourites. Given that the big TV revenues for the World Cup (and almost half the competing teams) come from Europe, it is unlikely that FIFA would keep the World Cup away from Europe for sixteen years.

I think the favourites will be England, followed by Spain, with Australia or an Asian country as third favourites.
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 04:56 PM   #88
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Come on who would think South Africa would host a world cup so soon, I would've thought like in 15 or more years.........
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 05:37 PM   #89
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Come on who would think South Africa would host a world cup so soon, I would've thought like in 15 or more years.........
I'm pleased that SA did get the 2010 World Cup. They'll do a great job, I'm sure. But the decision was an inevitable consequence of Sepp Blatter's promise to bring the World Cup to Africa. His election as FIFA president in 1998 depended, in no small part, on the votes of African members of FIFA, so he had to deliver on his promise (especially after the shock victory of Germany in the 2006 vote).

Blatter has no similar obligation to Australian football.

So while there is a chance that Australia could be chosen as the hosts of the 2018 World Cup, I don't think that they will be favourites (for reasons already mentioned).
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 08:36 PM   #90
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That would be prettty cool to have a world cup down under, but I think that England will get it in 2018, Brazil 2014 and in 2022 idn then maybe Australia.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 09:36 AM   #91
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No need for New Zealand to be involved.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 11:44 AM   #92
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That would be prettty cool to have a world cup down under, but I think that England will get it in 2018, Brazil 2014 and in 2022 idn then maybe Australia.
I agree:
- 2014 is in south america and Brazil is the one only bid...so, let's go to Brazil.
- 2018 should be in Europe. England will be the front runner but can't host Olympics 2012 and both Rugby World Cup 2015 and World Cup 2018.
- 2022 could be a good date for Australia.

One question:
How many countries in the world are able to host alone a world cup with 32 (or even 40) teams ? I think it's less than 20 for the moment.

Europe: 5 (Spain, Italy, France, Germany, England or UK)
South America: 2 (Brazil and Argentina)
North America: 3 (USA, Canada, Mexico)
Asia: 4 (Japan, Corea, India, China)
Africa: 1 (South Africa)
Oceania: 1 (Australia)

Maybe in the futur, some countries like Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, New Zealand, Morocco, Nigeria, Egypt... would be able to host World Cup too.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 11:45 AM   #93
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FIFA has said recently that an AFC nation(Oz) cannot host the World Cup with an Oceania nation(NZ) and they were not having duel bids again.

Why the hell would you want to share the World Cup with them anyhow? To take advantage of their ramshackle stadia? Oz should have a crack at hosting the World Cup for 2018.

England will no doubt have Europe backing it, so we need to lobby like buggery the South and North Americans, I'm sure Asia will back us and try and get Africa on side.

It will take lots of behind the scene deals and plenty of false promises and the odd bribe but we should be able to get it.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 12:26 PM   #94
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- 2014 is in south america and Brazil is the one only bid...so, let's go to Brazil.
- 2018 should be in Europe. England will be the front runner but can't host Olympics 2012 and both Rugby World Cup 2015 and World Cup 2018.
well with all the infrastructure at the moment and redevelopments happening around England I don't see why, like Australia, they can't host numerous large sporting events within a span of 2-3 years.

in reply to the main topic of the thread, bugger New Zealand they already got the Rugby World Cup in 2011 anyways. If Australia can handle the Olympics and the RWC then why not the World Cup. Sydney plus Wollongong and Newcastle alone has a couple of 20,000 stadiums. Brisbane has arguably the best football stadium in the country. FFA will definately aim high after World Cup qualification, transfer to the Asian region in football etc.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 12:31 PM   #95
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FIFA has said recently that an AFC nation(Oz) cannot host the World Cup with an Oceania nation(NZ) and they were not having duel bids again.

Why the hell would you want to share the World Cup with them anyhow? To take advantage of their ramshackle stadia? Oz should have a crack at hosting the World Cup for 2018.

England will no doubt have Europe backing it, so we need to lobby like buggery the South and North Americans, I'm sure Asia will back us and try and get Africa on side.

It will take lots of behind the scene deals and plenty of false promises and the odd bribe but we should be able to get it.
Anything's possible, of course, as the surprising decision to award London the 2012 Olympics proved. But I think England will still be favourites. FIFA will be unwilling to take the tournament away from Europe (FIFA's big paymasters) for 16 years. And of the big European countries, it is England's turn.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 12:37 PM   #96
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2018 should be in Europe. England will be the front runner but can't host Olympics 2012 and both Rugby World Cup 2015 and World Cup 2018.
I don't see why not. There is no overlap between the IOC, FIFA and the IRB. What one organisation does is not necessarily relevant to what another does. The fact that the IOC has chosen London for 2012 will not preclude FIFA and / or the IRB from choosing England for their showpiece tournaments. Their decisions will be entirely independent of each other.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 12:39 PM   #97
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Rotation is being scrapped post 2014, and even so, Australia will have the backing of the asian confed. I expect it to go down the wire between England and Australia. Bids shouldnt start being confirmed till 2012-ish, So its wierd that both federations are talking about it already.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 12:50 PM   #98
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how many stadia are needed for a World Cup? i'm guessing 8?

ps. i think Australia should go it alone too. Having 2 countries from the Oceania region automatically qualify (i know Australia will be in the Asian zone but my point is it...) just wouldnt cut it politically with FIFA and its members.

The ready to go stadiums are:
Suncorp Stadium (Brisbane)
Telstra Stadium (Sydney)
Aussie Stadium (Sydney)
Telstra Dome (Melbourne)

I'm not so sure about the MCG, not really the right shape for this type of football at this level.

I know there's talk of construction of a multipurpose stadium in Perth. We'll see whether this happens or not, but i would be surprised if Perth doesnt have a new major stadium by 2018.

I would suggest another 3 new stadiums in addition should be built for this purpose of this event. Perhaps on the Goldcoast and Melbourne (unless the MCG could somehow be modified, like digging a deeper rectangular shaped hole and putting seating on the banks!) would be the the most likely.
Adelaide is the other possible venue although i'm not sure how they would finance such a venture for a new 40000+ stadium.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 12:50 PM   #99
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Rotation is being scrapped post 2014, and even so, Australia will have the backing of the asian confed. I expect it to go down the wire between England and Australia. Bids shouldnt start being confirmed till 2012-ish, So its wierd that both federations are talking about it already.
I think bids will be confirmed in 2009. The vote will be in 2012.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 12:53 PM   #100
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how many stadia are needed for a World Cup? i'm guessing 8?
I think 10 is the minimum requirement. Erm...or is it 12?

Definitely not 8, though!
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