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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 06:07 PM   #1341
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It would be positive for Portugal. Everyone had doubts when Portugal bid for Euro 2004 but the country showed all its qualities and capabilities and ensured the event was a success, Earlier this week the president of the Portuguese Football Federation, Gilberto Madail, said Portugal should consider making a bid to host the football finals in 2018 using the stadiums put in place for the Euro 2004 tournament which it hosted.
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 06:13 PM   #1342
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Portugals stadiums are excellent, but the country would need to build another 60,000+ seater stadium, and six new 40,000+ seater stadia to host a World Cup. FIFA will take into consideration that most of the Euro 2004 stadiums have never been filled since the tournament, and that stadiums in Spain and England would almost certainly be filled week in week out.
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 06:15 PM   #1343
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if England doesnt come up with plans for new stadiums, i would choose Spain at this moment in time (if i was working at FIFA)

the City of Birmingham stadium was a 55,000 seater stadium (with retractable roof, pitch and seats) that was going to be used for football, athletics, cricket and rugby. but was put on hold because the council didnt forward the bid in the race for a supercasino license (idiots) and forwarded some other bid that met no criteria which ultimately failed.

it could be brought back to life for the World Cup/Commonwealth games/future casino license applications

you can view it in the England 2018 bid thread
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 06:21 PM   #1344
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There are no official bids yet, so
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Portugal haven't made an official bid yet.
is a useless argument. Better show all the other countries as well, for the total image.
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 06:43 PM   #1345
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In that case there has been rumblings of the USA maybe throwing a bid in. The would obviously have more than enough stadiums. But they have hosted it in the recent past.
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 07:01 PM   #1346
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we all know what a great WC that was
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 07:14 PM   #1347
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There are no official bids yet, so is a useless argument. Better show all the other countries as well, for the total image.
Official bids are put forward to FIFA in 2009.

The list above has the 4 strongest possible bids. I did not include the Canadian or the Belgium/Netherlands bid because the stadia are lightyears behind the other bidding countries.

I think it will be between Spain and England right to the line, but bearing in mind England will have other stadiums in London that cannot legally be used under FIFA regulations (aka Olympic stadium (70,000+ seats), Twickenham (82,000 seats) and a redeveloped Stamford Bridge (60,000+ seats) I think England can match the Spanish competition.
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 07:16 PM   #1348
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if England doesnt come up with plans for new stadiums, i would choose Spain at this moment in time (if i was working at FIFA)

the City of Birmingham stadium was a 55,000 seater stadium (with retractable roof, pitch and seats) that was going to be used for football, athletics, cricket and rugby. but was put on hold because the council didnt forward the bid in the race for a supercasino license (idiots) and forwarded some other bid that met no criteria which ultimately failed.

it could be brought back to life for the World Cup/Commonwealth games/future casino license applications

you can view it in the England 2018 bid thread
I dont think that would actually be that big a factor considering Villa Park looks likely to be redevolped into a 50,000+ seater. Indeed that might actually be the better stadium to use since part of the appeal of an English/UK bid would be the famous stadiums.

I suspect that the Spainish may ultimately do a deal with the English FA in which they support us for 2018 if we support them for Euro 2016.
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 08:49 PM   #1349
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Official bids are put forward to FIFA in 2009.

The list above has the 4 strongest possible bids. I did not include the Canadian or the Belgium/Netherlands bid because the stadia are lightyears behind the other bidding countries.
Who said anything about Canada? No offense but this is the last thing Canada would ever bid for. Not enough people follow soccer over here. But the USA has the money and power to probably buy themselves another tourney when they choose to. Whether this is 2018 or later who knows.
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 10:27 PM   #1350
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I dont think that would actually be that big a factor considering Villa Park looks likely to be redevolped into a 50,000+ seater. Indeed that might actually be the better stadium to use since part of the appeal of an English/UK bid would be the famous stadiums.
is this a joke?
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 11:25 PM   #1351
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is this a joke?
Perhaps you can build the stadium with the 30 peices of silver Bruce got for leaving Palace?
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 11:30 PM   #1352
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lets face it theres no way on earth birmingham city would get a 55,000 seat stadium they could barely half fill it, expanding villa is the safer bet
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 11:39 PM   #1353
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what people have to realise is we are in 2006 and 2018 is 12 years away and in 12 years there will be many new stadiums..if mexico were to bid they would have to build all new stadiums or repair those stadiums posted above. as for england they would need some new stadiums but their league is in good shape and i think new stadiums will be built..for wc 2018 i would like to see spain win..i think their stadiums will be incredible for the wc..is there any news if a greek-turkish bid will go through?
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Old November 24th, 2006, 12:04 AM   #1354
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All the official bids have to be in by 2009, so watch this space (for 3 years)
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Old November 24th, 2006, 01:24 AM   #1355
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lets face it theres no way on earth birmingham city would get a 55,000 seat stadium they could barely half fill it, expanding villa is the safer bet
well i disagree (slightly), last season, Villa's average attendance was 34,000 and Birmingham's was 28,000. so the gap in attendances weren't significantly big (even though we had a nightmare of a season)

i know we are in the Championship now and naturally, our attendance has fallen but, even when they have arguably the best manager in their history and a new billionnaire owner their attendaces have stagnated

i know what you're trying to say though, if it was built now we wouldnt fill a 55,000 seater stadium, but who knows in 10 years time we could be one of the big guns

a new stadium brings in new interest (in just seeing the stadium) my brother who's an Arsenal fan hadnt been to an Arsenal game since 2001, and now he comes to me saying, "i've gotta see this new stadium! (the Emirates) have you seen it? it's incredible!"

stadium extensions don't excite anyone. new people wont come in for a few more blocks of seating

we've had attendances of 69,000 before in our history, and even managed to bring 50,000 fans to watch Blues play in the the Leyland DAF cup final. this club has BIG potential and the biggest net available to draw new local fans. i guess we will see where we are in a few years time.

probably in legaue 2.....(it IS Birmingham after all)

the city itself though DOES need the Birmingham Sports Village complex (and again the stadium isnt just for football, but for athletics, cricket, rugby and concerts too)
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Old November 24th, 2006, 01:43 AM   #1356
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It would be nice seeing Canada in that group but our ugly venues would ruine the collection.
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Old November 24th, 2006, 02:07 AM   #1357
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IMO Australia has the capacity and motivation to stage a fantastic and memorable World Cup in 2018 but I don't think the rest of the world would 'allow' that to happen.....something about being too far 'downunder' and the time difference...but I truly hope these aren't held against Australia's bid.
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Old November 24th, 2006, 11:52 AM   #1358
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Australia would host a fantastic World Cup, but 2018 is a European World Cup year... Oz would be the strongest contender for 2022. Canada might have a strong football team by then but it's stadia are a tad uglier than those down under.
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Old November 24th, 2006, 12:04 PM   #1359
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Official bids are put forward to FIFA in 2009.

The list above has the 4 strongest possible bids. I did not include the Canadian or the Belgium/Netherlands bid because the stadia are lightyears behind the other bidding countries.

I think it will be between Spain and England right to the line, but bearing in mind England will have other stadiums in London that cannot legally be used under FIFA regulations (aka Olympic stadium (70,000+ seats), Twickenham (82,000 seats) and a redeveloped Stamford Bridge (60,000+ seats) I think England can match the Spanish competition.
The Netherlands is full of decent stadiums, it's just that they're a bit on the small side. But Rotterdam is planning a new stadium and so are Antwerp and Brussels. Others are planning upgrading to around 40.000. I would love it if Belgium and the Netherlands got it, but my money would be on Spain. Considering that Madrid lost out to London for the Olympics, the favour will go the other way round (if Spain's bid is not better anyway).
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The Netherlands is full of decent stadiums, it's just that they're a bit on the small side. But Rotterdam is planning a new stadium and so are Antwerp and Brussels. Others are planning upgrading to around 40.000. I would love it if Belgium and the Netherlands got it, but my money would be on Spain. Considering that Madrid lost out to London for the Olympics, the favour will go the other way round (if Spain's bid is not better anyway).
Actually if anything I'd say it could be the reverse, London winning 2012 and the experience/infrastructure it will create could help with a world cup bid. Mexico, West Germany and the USA all hosted the Olympics and WC within two years of each other.

As much as we like to talk about stadiums the two key factors for choosing a host for the WC are IMHO FIFA politics plus the hosts level of organisation, infrastructure and expereince with hosting big sporting events.
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