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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 24th, 2006, 03:36 PM   #1361
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IMO Australia has the capacity and motivation to stage a fantastic and memorable World Cup in 2018 but I don't think the rest of the world would 'allow' that to happen.....something about being too far 'downunder' and the time difference...but I truly hope these aren't held against Australia's bid.
I think that the Stadiums in Spain and England are really impressive.

For the Aussies there seems to be only 6 stadiums in 3 cities and one of these stadiums seems to be an ugly cricket ground. They will have to build at least 6 new stadiums to be contenders.
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Old November 24th, 2006, 03:45 PM   #1362
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As much as we like to talk about stadiums the two key factors for choosing a host for the WC are IMHO FIFA politics plus the hosts level of organisation, infrastructure and expereince with hosting big sporting events.
This might actually be good news. After Euro 2000, Uefa were happy with the way it was organised (first time held in two countries), as were FIFA after the Under 20 World Cup in 2005.

Belgium and The Netherlands combined could easily provide the 10 required stadiums, although there won't be anything outstanding such as Wembley, Camp Nou or Bernabeu.
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Old November 24th, 2006, 04:41 PM   #1363
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At the current rate of development and progress Villa Park or Molineux will host the West Midland ties as Brum's new stadium looks dead and buried for the foreseable future
 
Old November 24th, 2006, 05:38 PM   #1364
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I vote for China
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Old November 24th, 2006, 08:46 PM   #1365
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China would have a million 100k+ stadia constructed in 1 year, if that's what it takes to host a World Cup. Question is, is a football-poverished as such, really deserve to host the tournament?
Don't take me wrong, I am Chinese too. But I have almost no faith in my country's men's football team. They are pretty useless. Well, maybe with the exception about 2 or 3 players.
China is a sport-strong country, I just don't get it why they never did well in men's football.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 12:14 AM   #1366
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China's stadiums look great don't they. I really like Nanjing Olympic Sports Centre.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 12:50 AM   #1367
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IMO Australia has the capacity and motivation to stage a fantastic and memorable World Cup in 2018 but I don't think the rest of the world would 'allow' that to happen.....something about being too far 'downunder' and the time difference...but I truly hope these aren't held against Australia's bid.
At the risk of repeating myself...

Whilst there's no doubt that in every area other than stadia (admin, hotels, transport, etc.) Australia would host a fantastic tournament, the facts (at the moment) are that Australia hasn't the stadium facilities to host a world cup. The current standards require 8 x 40k stadiums in 8 cities. Australia would have the one each in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, then we'd be relying on aging cricket/AFL venues to make up the remaining 5.

Realistically, in terms of 40k stadia, there's maybe the need for one more in Adelaide and Perth, then you're struggling - a national stadium in Canberra, to be used once or twice a year (and rarely filled)? An expanded stadium on the Gold Coast? New rugby stadium in Newcastle? Something is Tassie? Most of the venues would never been filled once the world cup was over.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 01:28 AM   #1368
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Australia would host a fantastic World Cup, but 2018 is a European World Cup year... Oz would be the strongest contender for 2022. Canada might have a strong football team by then but it's stadia are a tad uglier than those down under.
A tad? They are attrocious! I do admit, they are ugly (most of them). In my books, there are only 4 really nice stadiums in Canada. There is a proposal for a new Winnipeg stadium.







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Old November 25th, 2006, 04:46 AM   #1369
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That proposal is so dead. Hasn't been talked about for a year or two.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 05:01 AM   #1370
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It's not dead, there hasn't been any developpement that's all (Bombers were in debt) and they are still deciding the location.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 05:10 AM   #1371
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From what I've been told by some folks in Winnipeg is that a stadium is being looked at long term. But this proposal is dead.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 05:39 AM   #1372
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Hopefully not, I think it's a wonderful design.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 09:07 AM   #1373
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IMO Australia has the capacity and motivation to stage a fantastic and memorable World Cup in 2018 but I don't think the rest of the world would 'allow' that to happen.....something about being too far 'downunder' and the time difference...but I truly hope these aren't held against Australia's bid.

Hey if the Europeans are that dedicated to football they would get up at 2:00 o'clock in the morning to watch it. We had to when it was in Germany! And it still got great ratings. People will get up if they have to.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 12:16 PM   #1374
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They will, but we won't have to... Australia at this moment does not have the stadion cap. to hold a WC (maybe 2018 yeah right).
Though I would like to see it held in Australia as it is a sportcrazy country and the Olympics in Sydney where the best ever held in my opinion!
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Old November 28th, 2006, 06:05 PM   #1375
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They will, but we won't have to... Australia at this moment does not have the stadion cap. to hold a WC (maybe 2018 yeah right).
Though I would like to see it held in Australia as it is a sportcrazy country and the Olympics in Sydney where the best ever held in my opinion!
Oh Mate, its widely agreed in many peoples Opinions.

Australia will be light-years away from holding the world cup in 5 yrs. In ten years it might be a different story. Olympic and MCG will be the centre pieces. Perth and Suncorp will be the next tier of 55 - 60K stadiums. Adelaide could well have something on that scale within the next 12 yrs. From this point on is our downfall.
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Old November 30th, 2006, 03:30 AM   #1376
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Hopefully, by 2014 (when the bid would be made)

(1) interest in football in Australia will have grown at the rate of 10% per season, taking average attendances up to the region of 27000 around the country.

(2) All of the (7 current Australian based) A-League sides will have either built, or will require, a 40000 seater stadium.

(3) The government, sensing the vote winning potential, will have constructed a 40-50k 'national' stadium in Canberra (for the occasional cup final or international - either football or rugby).

If these three come off - the need for, and construction of, 8 stadia in eight cities, plus the existing additional stadia in Melbourne and Sydney... Then we'd have a pretty good bid - the only thing that could stand in Australia's way then would be the low population of the nation and it's distance from everywhere else. (Time zones shouldn't be a problem, they certainly didn't count against Japan/Korea).
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Old November 30th, 2006, 05:44 AM   #1377
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Hopefully, by 2014 (when the bid would be made)

(1) interest in football in Australia will have grown at the rate of 10% per season, taking average attendances up to the region of 27000 around the country..
27,000 would make the Aussie league the 4th best attended after the Bundeliga, the EPL and La Liga...good luck!

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Not sure Aussie tax payers will be keen to stump up anything up to $200 million on a stadium for "the occasional cup final"

I really don't think the time zone is an issue. I think the Aussies could put on a bloody great WC. I just think you may just have to bide your time and hope China are not bidding against you
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Old November 30th, 2006, 05:54 AM   #1378
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Soccer WC should go back to its home: England. no doubt.
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Old November 30th, 2006, 06:03 AM   #1379
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Europe again? Come on... talk about killing it's international appeal...
I think Oz should host 2018. Their facilities are more directed at events of those types of crowds per game. Canada's bid would obviously be stronger if Halifax gets the right to host the 2014 Commonwealth Games. Then it would have a stadium in every region, with each region having over a million each, with stadiums able to host 40 000+ people (after temp extentions). But ya if China puts in a bid... well they're going to get it. My only question is... how many international events can China hold before somebody says, "Hey didn't China already do the Olympics, etc.", because China is the the dragon economy, and will be on the top of the list for alot of events. Will they use that situation too much, and end up handing the games to either Canada/Mexico/Oz.?

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Old November 30th, 2006, 02:22 PM   #1380
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what are you on? Of Course it should be in Europe, half the teams in the tournament are european, UEFA is the most important organisation within FIFA, home of football etc etc Europe is the reason why there is an 'international appeal', most watch the european leagues.
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