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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old December 5th, 2006, 02:34 PM   #1421
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The Rose Bowl is a pretty average stadium these days.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 03:00 PM   #1422
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The world cup bid for 2018 will only select the Asian countries, thats why China lost the bid on 2014, because is south America term for the world cup, so I think the only competitors here are China and Australia
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Old December 5th, 2006, 06:19 PM   #1423
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The Rose Bowl is a pretty average stadium these days.
compared to some of the other stadiums, yes the Rose Bowl IS pretty average. it doesnt play host to a "professional" sports team ala the NFL or La Liga etc, but it has two major selling points:

1) its located in the Los Angeles Metro area, second largest in the nation. not including a facility in this metro area would be beyond stupid. at the moment, the Rose Bowl is a more "attractive" facility than the LA Coliseum, plus it hosted the '94 Final. it can now claim a small part in World Cup history.
2) it can hold over 90,000+ people. from a $$$ standpoint, its a no-brainer. and lets face it, these games are just as much about making money. hollywood just down the freeway doesnt hurt either. they'll both want to collaborate with each other.

its inclusion in any future World Cup would guarantee upgrades to the facility. there were already plans on the table a year or two ago to do just that when the possibility of luring an NFL team to play there was being looked at. there is also the possibility of the Los Angeles Coliseum. its not as "pretty" but it can also hold over 90,000+ and is part of the Los Angeles bid for the 2016 Olympics. if LA were to win, expect MAJOR upgrades there.

Dallas would also probably be a lock because of its metro area. the Cowboys of the NFL are building a new 75,000 seat there stadium, and i think it would be included in the bid over the Cotton Bowl.

Cowboys Stadium - Arlington, TX (Dallas metro area) - scheduled to open 2009
capacity = 75,000




i think Phoenix should be included as well. the new stadium for the Arizona Cardinals looks absolutely gorgeous, and their metro area is growing.

University of Phoenix Stadium - Glendale, AZ (Phoenix metro area)
capacity = 63,500 (expandable to 72,800 for the World Cup)



Indianpolis would be a maybe. Detroit got the nod last time. they'll both have new stadiums by then (the Indianapolis one is currently in construction), and the seating will be around the same for both (70,000). would be interesting to see who'd win.

i think Seattle would be another maybe to round out the bid. Its a beautiful stadium in a beautiful city, and in the three years since its opening its already played host to Manchester United, Celtic, Chelsea and Real Madrid. great reviews from all who participated.

Qwest Field - Seattle, WA
capacity = 67,000


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Old December 6th, 2006, 12:08 AM   #1424
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You can add
Reliant Stadium-71000+, Houston
Dolphins Stadium-75000+, Miami
Mile High Stadium-76000+, Denver
Arrowhead Stadium-79000+, Kansas City
Soldier Field-61000+, Chicago
Heinz Field-64000+, Pittsburgh
Lincoln Financial Field-68000+, Philadelphia
etc.etc.etc

By far and away the USA can throw the most impressive list of stadiums in a line up bar none.

One could find 30+ stadiums of 60000+ capacity capable of hosting soccer.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:48 AM   #1425
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1994 - Los Angeles. One of my mates working for a promotions company was unable to GIVE AWAY 30 tickets for the final on the day of the match. FIFA desperately want the game to take off in America, but the memory of the lack of interest shown (at that time) is still a sore point.

It's virtually impossible to argue with the line up of stadiums available in the USA - and it's certain that the finals will go back there, most likely in 2026 (the next time The Americas rolls around, unless Argentina put in a spectacular bid). Long time to wait though.

Question though - how wide is the playing area for American Football? Those pitches look pretty narrow.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 02:16 AM   #1426
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A regulation field is 53 yds. wide.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 02:17 AM   #1427
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^ lack of interest?

3,587,538 people watched the games live, more than any other WC, even though it still had the 24-team format.

95000 people watched the final at the Rose Bowl.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 03:13 AM   #1428
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All all those American stadia equipped with a grass surface? Or are some artificial?
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Old December 6th, 2006, 03:35 AM   #1429
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Everything shown/listed are turf fields.(grass)
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Old December 6th, 2006, 03:37 AM   #1430
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1994 - Los Angeles. One of my mates working for a promotions company was unable to GIVE AWAY 30 tickets for the final on the day of the match. FIFA desperately want the game to take off in America, but the memory of the lack of interest shown (at that time) is still a sore point.
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^ lack of interest?

3,587,538 people watched the games live, more than any other WC, even though it still had the 24-team format.

95000 people watched the final at the Rose Bowl.
hngcm is correct. the game was a sellout with more than 94,000 people in attendance. at the time, everywhere you looked it was all about the World Cup here. the games set record attendance levels which France '98, Korea/Japan '02 and Germany '06 weren't able to beat despite the tournament now hosting TWELVE more games than in '94. FIFA and everyone who participated had to have made a TON of cash. i'm sure that hasnt been forgotten.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 03:47 AM   #1431
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Um the Linc sucks in my opinion I didn't like that stadium at all when I toured it. I say add san Francisco they are getting a new stadium most likely in santa clara.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 03:50 AM   #1432
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All all those American stadia equipped with a grass surface? Or are some artificial?
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Everything shown/listed are turf fields.(grass)
a bit of triva perhaps? for the '94 World Cup, 4 games were held at the Pontiac Silverdome in Detriot, MI. the dome has an artificial playing field. for the WC games, a temporary natural grass field capable of surviving indoors was installed. iíve read somewhere that these 4 games were the first WC games to be played indoors. can anyone confirm that?
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Old December 6th, 2006, 03:59 AM   #1433
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Um the Linc sucks in my opinion I didn't like that stadium at all when I toured it. I say add san Francisco they are getting a new stadium most likely in santa clara.
the first event ever played at the Linc was soccer! Manchester United played host to Barcelona FC.



i havent seen any renders of the Santa Clara stadium. can anyone post any?
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Old December 6th, 2006, 04:01 AM   #1434
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the first event ever played at the Linc was soccer! Manchester United played host to Barcelona FC.



i havent seen any renders of the Santa Clara stadium. can anyone post any?
I don't think there is any renderings as of now. Its an idea that the 49ers are talking about though. Really well if the Linc got rid of that awful eagles green color its would be much better.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:19 AM   #1435
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a bit of triva perhaps? for the '94 World Cup, 4 games were held at the Pontiac Silverdome in Detriot, MI. the dome has an artificial playing field. for the WC games, a temporary natural grass field capable of surviving indoors was installed. iíve read somewhere that these 4 games were the first WC games to be played indoors. can anyone confirm that?
Yes they were the first World Cup games played indoors.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 09:15 PM   #1436
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The same can be said for 2014 which will go to the Americas at this point South America, but as it is quite likely one of the above will happen USA and Canada can be on standby and have tha ability to host the wc within a few months notice.


FIFA opens bidding for 2014 World Cup in South America
Wed 06 Dec, 6:30 PM

ZURICH (AFP) - FIFA opened the bidding for the 2014 World Cup and said that it would make a decision on its choice of South American host in November 2007.

FIFA's executive committee said in a statement after its meeting in Zurich that it would accelerate the procedure if only one candidate submitted a bid and met all its requirements.

Brazil is widely fancied as a likely host for the World Cup in 2014, which will take place in Latin America under the world governing body's policy of rotating the event between its major regions.

However, FIFA president Sepp Blatter told journalists that high standards had been set in recent World Cups. He warned that the governing body would be ready to look "further north" if no decent candidates came through from the South American confederation.

In other words as stated if Brazil dosen't get its act together-Argentina, Usa and Mexico will be in there like a rat up a drain pipe.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 09:22 PM   #1437
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I have a completely different list for a US Bid.

- New LA Coliseum(remember a team will be moving to LA and the Coliseum will be renovated by then)
- New 49ers stadium
- New Cowboys Stadium
- Reliant Stadium
- University of Phoenix Stadium - Phoenix
- Dolphin Stadium(to add a retractable roof apparently)
- Giants Stadium(new one)
- Lucas Oil - Indianapolis
- FedEx Field(can gurantee you Teh Daniel will ad a retractable roof)
- Ford Field
- Louisiana Superdome(much nicer after the renovation)
- Qwest Field(Seattle)
- The Linc

I think that would give a pretty good spread of the country.

Some of these fields were stated to have specifically been built with field trays large enough for the World Cup. Field size simply isn't a problem.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 09:43 PM   #1438
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Don't hold your breath waiting for LA to build a new stadium anytime soon. Same goes for SF. They will be lucky to have a new stadium by 2018 the way things are going. But your list is good except Chicago should be added and Maybe Minneapolis with their new stadium. Also Denver?
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:09 PM   #1439
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USA would easily win from any bid when they didn't host 1994:

Rose Bowl, CA - 93.000
Bryant Danny, AL - 92.000
Sanford, GA - 92.000
LA Memorial, CA - 92.000
Ben Hill Griffin, FL - 89.000
Jordan Hare, AL - 87.000
Doak Campbell, FL - 82.000
Legion, AL - 81.000
Notre Dame, IN - 81.000
ALLTEL, FL - 77.000
Invesco, CO - 76.000
Dolphin, FL - 75.000
Sun Devil, AZ - 73.000
Memorial, CA - 73.000
Miami Orange, FL - 72.000
Razorback, AR - 72.000
Qualcomm, CA - 71.000
Georgia Dome, GA - 71.000
Florida Citrus, FL - 70.000
Kinnick, IA - 70.000
Monster, CA - 70.000
Memorial, IL - 69.000
Raymond James, FL - 66.000
Ross Ade, IN - 66.000
Yale, CT - 64.000
UoP, AZ - 63.000
McAfee, CA - 63.000
Soldier Field, IL - 62.000
AZ Stadium, AZ - 56.000
RFK Memorial, DC - 56.000
RCA, IN - 56.000
Grant, FL - 55.000
Memorial, AR - 54.000
Folsom, CO - 54.000
Memorial, IN - 52.000
Falcon, CO - 52.000
Stanford, CA - 50.000
Aloha, HI - 50.000
Ryan - 47.000
Jack Trice, IA - 46.000
Ladd Peebles - 41.000
Bulldog, CA - 41.000
Rentschler, CT - 40.000

Yes, this includes college stadiums. I stopped at Iowa because I didn't wanted to waste anymore time.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:24 PM   #1440
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Dont mean to sound rude, but the US isnt going to host another world cup for a good 20 years. If it does host another one in 20 years I would be very suprised.

If it was a battle between the likes of Brazil, England, Italy, Argentina, France, Germany, Spain and the US the latter would come bottom, everytime.

Its not the stadia or facilities. Its the simple fact ... since 1994. Only 12 US players are playing in the FA Premiership. (Most are near retiring or hardly playing) ... where's the development?

By all means have the womens world cup, but leave the real one to the countries who know how to play the damn sport.
 


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