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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:43 PM   #1441
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I have a completely different list for a US Bid.
i think you have too many sites. if you look at previous World Cups, the "larger" the country, Argentina, Mexico, the US, the fewer the sites. the US only used 9 sites last time as did Mexico in '86, probably in an effort to reduce travel and logitical issues for the the countries participating. only in "smaller" countries like Germany, Italy, and Spain did you see more venues used.

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Don't hold your breath waiting for LA to build a new stadium anytime soon.
i cant speak for SF, but LA definetly wont be building a new NFL stadium anytime soon. you will however see a renovated Coliseum by 2018. i think its only a matter of time, and with talk of LA bidding for the Olympics in 2016, there is once again renewed interest in the idea.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:57 PM   #1442
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Dont mean to sound rude, but the US isnt going to host another world cup for a good 20 years. If it does host another one in 20 years I would be very suprised.

If it was a battle between the likes of Brazil, England, Italy, Argentina, France, Germany, Spain and the US the latter would come bottom, everytime.

Its not the stadia or facilities. Its the simple fact ... since 1994. Only 12 US players are playing in the FA Premiership. (Most are near retiring or hardly playing) ... where's the development?

By all means have the womens world cup, but leave the real one to the countries who know how to play the damn sport.

How do you explain '94? I’m willing to bet we had fewer than 12 players in Europe at that time.

How do you explain Korea/Japan 2002? Those countries certainly weren’t football powerhouses when they were awarded it, were they?

FIFA will go where it feels it can get the biggest return on investment. $$$

and of the countries listed, when was the last time England, Argentina, or Spain DIDNT choke on the international stage? seems like half your list cant really play the sport either.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 11:05 PM   #1443
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I think that it should Australia...

I think that, since Canada and England are hosting a form of the Olympics, that it shouldn't be in either. I know that it is unrelated to the World Cup, but it would be better if it was in another country.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 11:58 PM   #1444
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a.) too many feelings about who should and shouldn't get Cups for emotional reasons. I doubt the selection committee cares about that. If they can make more money and spread the sport better in the U.S., then why would they make a European tour and bankrupt some of these countries who would certainly have to make major upgrades to reach the FIFA standards. This stuff isn't free. FIFA's own World Cup standards pages even talks about the usefulness of a venue after the World Cup. Hosting has nothing to do with love for the game(in the US, soccer has been the most popular sport for children and teens for like 20 years), or on the field performance.

b.) I stated in my post that LA was going to renovate the Coliseum.

c.) And fine, I was basing the bid on the last one in the US, where games were pretty spread out. There are also more games now than before when there were 9 sites. If it needs to be in one region, then fine, but you'd be limiting yourself away from the best World Cup.
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Old December 7th, 2006, 02:23 AM   #1445
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c.) And fine, I was basing the bid on the last one in the US, where games were pretty spread out. There are also more games now than before when there were 9 sites. If it needs to be in one region, then fine, but you'd be limiting yourself away from the best World Cup.
i wasnt attacking your list. i think its great, and it would be nice to spread the games out more like you stated. can you imagine how much it would suck having to eliminate one of them though? i guess thats what i was trying to get at. defintely not a choice i'd want to make!
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Old December 7th, 2006, 05:35 PM   #1446
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I argued that the next World Cup in the U.S should be held in the northeast part of US, which has the least warmest climate in June. Also, travelling between the venues and to/from Europe (where the major part of the fans will come from) will be relatively convinient.

My list of U.S stadia would then be these for sure:
Fedex Field D.C 91600
New Giants stadium 80000
M&T Bank Stadium Baltimore 69500
Gilette Stadium Boston 68756
Lincoln Financial Field Philiadelphia 68532
Heinz Field Pittsburgh 64450

Probably these two too:
Cleveland Browns stadium 73200
Paul Brown stadium 65352

Completing with these three:
Bank of America stadium 73248
Soldier Field 61500
Ford Field 64 500

If needed, these two maybe can be used too:
Ralph Wilson stadium 73967 (old and pitch maybe too small?)
Lucas Oil 63000
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Old December 7th, 2006, 06:17 PM   #1447
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What about a southern US World Cup?

Won't need any or very much alteration:

Cowboys Stadium -75000
Reliant Stadium -69,500
The Alamodome - 66,000
Superdome - 70,000
Georgia Dome - 71,000
Dolphin Stadium - 75,000+(announced renovation, expansion and retractable roof)
University of Phoenix Stadium - 63,000+


Will need some changes:

LP Field - 69,000(needs roof)
Bank of America Stadium - 73,000(needs roof)
Raymond James Stadium - 66,000(needs roof)

I like this group of stadiums better than the NE.
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Old December 7th, 2006, 07:46 PM   #1448
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Well, if the rumours that UEFA (or was it FIFA?) wants the european leagues to be played from february to november are true, then the world cup has to be played around new year, then southern US probably would be a great place. Unfortunately it would clash with the NFL then...
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Old December 8th, 2006, 12:23 AM   #1449
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What about a southern US World Cup?

Won't need any or very much alteration:

Cowboys Stadium -75000
Reliant Stadium -69,500
The Alamodome - 66,000
Superdome - 70,000
Georgia Dome - 71,000
Dolphin Stadium - 75,000+(announced renovation, expansion and retractable roof)
University of Phoenix Stadium - 63,000+


Will need some changes:

LP Field - 69,000(needs roof)
Bank of America Stadium - 73,000(needs roof)
Raymond James Stadium - 66,000(needs roof)

I like this group of stadiums better than the NE.

I agree...the stadiums down there seem able, and they are, compared to the 1994 world cup...they aren't as scattered.

Take out Phoenix (too far from the rest), and I agree with you.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 09:03 AM   #1450
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No body has mentioned India as an option. if i am not wrong football is India's second most popular sport behind Criquet and since India's economy is booming it might be a very feasable option.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 03:46 PM   #1451
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Large countries like Brazil have hosted the world cup, so I don't see why America shouldn't regardless of its size.

What I do think is there should be a lasting legacy. Is it the case that the World Cup in 1994, helped soccer (I really don't object to using that word as vehemently as some Europeans) to establish itself in America. Is Association Football more popular than it was then, and if so did the WC play a significant contribution to this.

The American Market is huge, but if it is saturated it would be better for FIFA to look elsewhere to expand the game, at least to China where no team sport totally dominates, and India, where besides cricket (which is considered there to be not a sport but rather a religious festival) there is an open market.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 04:59 PM   #1452
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Its not the stadia or facilities. Its the simple fact ... since 1994. Only 12 US players are playing in the FA Premiership. (Most are near retiring or hardly playing) ... where's the development?
Listen to yourself. No one outside England cares about the Premiership, thats where the good players go to retire.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 05:57 PM   #1453
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lol, sure
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Old December 8th, 2006, 06:19 PM   #1454
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Listen to yourself. No one outside England cares about the Premiership, thats where the good players go to retire.
Ok the EPL is not the Best League in the world but to say its a patch for good players to go to retire is ludacris.

IMO the Spanish Premiera is the Best in the World but you could also say that Figo, Zidane, Beckham etc went there to retire. (Flawed logic i know but its the same with your argument).
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Old December 8th, 2006, 07:14 PM   #1455
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A world cup in India would be fantastic but i think an Olympic games would be easier to do. I've been in India recently and the cities are simply not at the stage of being able to cope with a huge influx of fans, teams and the media. Don't see the situation improving to such an extent that they could host a world cup in 11 years time.
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Old December 10th, 2006, 04:22 AM   #1456
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India?

when have India ever come close to qualifying for a WC?

the wouldnt even score a goal never mind get out of the group stages
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Old December 10th, 2006, 07:01 AM   #1457
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India is certainly a curve-ball of a suggestion. Booming economy or not - until they sort out the infrastructure and the massive problems of poverty and disease I doubt that they will get anywhere near winning a finals tournament.

Realistically, in terms of 2018 - the only countries with a realistic shot are the Europeans. (a) FIFA have stated that 2018 will be in Europe, and (b) even if they abandoned the rotation, they certainly wouldn't chose to abandon the first European finals in 12 years. Most likely to be England (because Spain, Italy, France and Germany have all had it since 'we' last did, and we've pretty much already got the facilities required.

The USA, I have no doubt, will get the next Americas tournament - 2026 (unless something goes wrong in the prospective Brazil (and/or Argentina) bid, in which case they'd have a shot at 2014). 2022 will be China or Australia (I suspect China due to the size of the population, but hope Australia - because I'm here!).
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Old December 10th, 2006, 10:26 AM   #1458
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Well, if the rumours that UEFA (or was it FIFA?) wants the european leagues to be played from february to november are true, then the world cup has to be played around new year, then southern US probably would be a great place. Unfortunately it would clash with the NFL then...
Woah that is a crazy rumour.

Why would UEFA want the european leagues to play between Feb & Nov??? & why would the world cup be played in the middle of a northern hemisphere winter if it was new year???
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Old December 10th, 2006, 01:34 PM   #1459
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It makes sense that all the European leagues play at the same time, but English players like their summer break...
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Old December 10th, 2006, 04:47 PM   #1460
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you could also say that Figo, Zidane, Beckham etc went there to retire.
Figo went to Barcelona with 23. :P
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