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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
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Old March 1st, 2007, 02:55 PM   #1761
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I'd say that the 2015 Cricket WC is irrelevent. The FIFA bid should stand on it's own two feet - with rectangular stadiums rather than jerry-rigged ovals. Best of all facilities, etc.
I know its irrelevant. But just saying that the 18 bid is kinda up shit creak isnt it?

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For the same reason, I'd advocate building a new stadium for Geelong rather than messing around with Skilled Stadium.
The cats wont be happy. Didnt they just build a brand new stand for that joint?

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To... Gwangju Stadium. I think it would work.
Thats awesome. Arent the Brumbies (im assuming they play there), like the second most expanding team in the whole entire comp??
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Thats awesome. Arent the Brumbies (im assuming they play there), like the second most expanding team in the whole entire comp??
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 03:31 AM   #1763
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The cats wont be happy. Didnt they just build a brand new stand for that joint?
They can keep Skilled for 'footy', have a rectangular stadium for football. Maybe something like Stade de la Mosson in Montpellier (below), but dismantle the big side once the finals are over to leave them with a 30k seater.



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Arent the Brumbies (im assuming they play there), like the second most expanding team in the whole entire comp??
Brumbies are expanding fast - and the stadium management is very keen to get an A-League side in a.s.a.p. in order to use the stadium during the summer months.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 10:39 PM   #1764
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Blatter is the biggest idiot in FIFA he just wants to get the votes to stay as president, idiot doesn't even know anything about football. UEFA should put their foot down, Europe can't go 16 years without a world cup, thats ridiculous!! especially when considering Europe makes up half the teams in the tournament.
Blatter is stupid: FIFA can't make 3 following WC outside Europe.
North America after South America is absolutly crazy. USA allready hosted WC 1994, Mexico hosted WC 1986 and England never hosted it since 1966. And why Blatter doesn't talk about a Canadian bid instead of USA or Mexico ?
WC 2018 must take place in Europe (England would be the best bid imho) and Blatter should go away.

Did Blatter ever plaid football in his life ? I don't know.
But I know that Blatter is very strong to play with cold and hot balls during draws.
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Old March 3rd, 2007, 07:41 AM   #1765
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This one looks like the Montpelier stadium in France! wait a minute, let me see...

[IMG]http://i12.************/2w7ftdk.jpg[/IMG]

I think they look alike pretty close no? also the cap of Montpelier is about
31 000 + something. I like the stadium(s) they are a little different from the normall!

looking at it closer, they are excactly the same, even the corners!!!
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Old March 3rd, 2007, 01:03 PM   #1766
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I reckon this would be quite a good list, not sure about the 2 stadiums per city rule of the FIFA though:

Name Capacity City Status
MCG 100,000 Melbourne Existing
Telstra Stadium 83,500 Sydney Existing
Perth Stadium 60,000 Perth New
Suncorp Stadium 52,500 Brisbane Existing
Rectangular Stadium 50,000 Melbourne New
Adelaide Stadium 50,000 Adelaide New
Aussie Stadium 42,000 Sydney Existing
EnergyAustralia Stadium 40,000 Newcastle Expansion/new
Skilled Park 40,000 Gold Coast Expansion
Canberra Stadium 40,000 Canberra Expansion

Telstra, Suncorp and Aussie stadium are good venues that could be used pretty much as they are at the moment.

Canberra stadium could be expanded quite easily i think. Not sure about the expansion possibilities of the Gold Coast and Newcastle stadiums though, Newcastle could sustain a 40,000 seater though i guess?

Perth are going to build a new stadium, so is Melbourne. Lets hope the Melbourne rectangular stadium is expandable.

That leaves Adelaide and the MCG. Adelaide could surely do with a new venue, which could possibly be downsized after the WC. Not sure about the MCG as a soccer stadium, could be replaced by a smaller stadium in townsville/wollongong/geelong, or the Telstra Dome though.

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Blatter is stupid: FIFA can't make 3 following WC outside Europe.
North America after South America is absolutly crazy. USA allready hosted WC 1994, Mexico hosted WC 1986 and England never hosted it since 1966. And why Blatter doesn't talk about a Canadian bid instead of USA or Mexico ?
WC 2018 must take place in Europe (England would be the best bid imho) and Blatter should go away.

Did Blatter ever plaid football in his life ? I don't know.
But I know that Blatter is very strong to play with cold and hot balls during draws.
As I said before, Blatter is only talking up the possibility of a 2018 finals outside Europe in order to keep his gravy train flowing. He knows it'll be in Europe, but if he admits it - with England in prime position - he knows he won't get any kick-backs.
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This one looks like the Montpelier stadium in France! wait a minute, let me see...

[IMG]http://i12.************/2w7ftdk.jpg[/IMG]

I think they look alike pretty close no? also the cap of Montpelier is about
31 000 + something. I like the stadium(s) they are a little different from the normall!

looking at it closer, they are excactly the same, even the corners!!!
As I said...

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They can keep Skilled for 'footy', have a rectangular stadium for football. Maybe something like Stade de la Mosson in Montpellier (below), but dismantle the big side once the finals are over to leave them with a 30k seater.

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Old March 3rd, 2007, 01:20 PM   #1769
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I reckon this would be quite a good list, not sure about the 2 stadiums per city rule of the FIFA though:

Name Capacity City Status
MCG 100,000 Melbourne Existing
Telstra Stadium 83,500 Sydney Existing
Perth Stadium 60,000 Perth New
Suncorp Stadium 52,500 Brisbane Existing
Rectangular Stadium 50,000 Melbourne New
Adelaide Stadium 50,000 Adelaide New
Aussie Stadium 42,000 Sydney Existing
EnergyAustralia Stadium 40,000 Newcastle Expansion/new
Skilled Park 40,000 Gold Coast Expansion
Canberra Stadium 40,000 Canberra Expansion

Telstra, Suncorp and Aussie stadium are good venues that could be used pretty much as they are at the moment.

Canberra stadium could be expanded quite easily i think. Not sure about the expansion possibilities of the Gold Coast and Newcastle stadiums though, Newcastle could sustain a 40,000 seater though i guess?

Perth are going to build a new stadium, so is Melbourne. Lets hope the Melbourne rectangular stadium is expandable.

That leaves Adelaide and the MCG. Adelaide could surely do with a new venue, which could possibly be downsized after the WC. Not sure about the MCG as a soccer stadium, could be replaced by a smaller stadium in townsville/wollongong/geelong, or the Telstra Dome though.

Drop the smaller stadium in Sydney, maybe drop the second stadium in Melbourne, upgrade Aussie Stadium in Sydney to it's Olympic mode (with the 'temp' ends rebuilt, add a second stadium in Perth (it's the only way to make things work if only one city can have two stadiums)...

Newcastle, either expand Energy Australia or build something new down by the docks (lots of space there that needs to be regenerated).
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Newcastle, either expand Energy Australia or build something new down by the docks (lots of space there that needs to be regenerated).
The long term plan for EAS is to follow the new eastern stand right around the ground. It'll basically be a 40-45,000 seat red+blue version of Suncorp.
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Old March 3rd, 2007, 01:42 PM   #1771
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If were talking about the Perth stadium being built for the eagles and the other (feral) mob, it wont be 60,000. Already were talking about 65 and in 15 yrs time????

I like Benjuks thinking in having 2 stadiums in Perth. The big one for the big matches and the little one for the minnow contries. Im dead certain all games in Perth would be sold out, so why not??? Although i do have a sneaky feeling that politics will come into this and melbournians and sydney siders will go bonkers at the idea.
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Old March 3rd, 2007, 02:02 PM   #1772
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I'm not sure Perth would have a 40,000+ and a 60,000+ stadium in 10 years time though? Seems abit too much for a city of that size to me? Sydney has 2 decent venues with Aussie and Telstra, why not use those 2 if only 1 city can have 2 venues.
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Old March 3rd, 2007, 03:43 PM   #1773
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If were talking about the Perth stadium being built for the eagles and the other (feral) mob, it wont be 60,000. Already were talking about 65 and in 15 yrs time????

I like Benjuks thinking in having 2 stadiums in Perth. The big one for the big matches and the little one for the minnow contries. Im dead certain all games in Perth would be sold out, so why not??? Although i do have a sneaky feeling that politics will come into this and melbournians and sydney siders will go bonkers at the idea.
I think Sydney would handle it if there were also venues in Wollongong and Newcastle - that's three for their state. Likewise, Melbournians would probably understand (if it was explained to them very slowly) that as only one city can have two stadiums, it makes sense for it to be Perth in order to give the 'west' two stadiums (allowing a group to be played out there)... Especially if a 40k stadium were built in Geelong as well (to give Victoria 2 venues).

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I'm not sure Perth would have a 40,000+ and a 60,000+ stadium in 10 years time though? Seems abit too much for a city of that size to me? Sydney has 2 decent venues with Aussie and Telstra, why not use those 2 if only 1 city can have 2 venues.
Sydney has two large venues, Melbourne has two large venues - select either for the two city venue and the other one goes nuts. Perth, on the other hand, is the only city in the west that could support two stadiums - and I'm pretty sure it could support two. Especially if one was a 32k rectangle (with a temp stand on one side/end to take it up to 40k), and the other was a Telstra Dome style 55/60k oval with a movable lower tier of seats.
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Old March 3rd, 2007, 04:21 PM   #1774
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Eh it was way to early for me and then this is what happens... nice stadium though!
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Old March 3rd, 2007, 06:32 PM   #1775
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well mr blatter certainly knows how to infuriate us english and thats maybe because he doesn't like us.Why,we don't know.But anyhow to keep the world cup away from europe that long is silly and even the spanish and australians must realise that we should have the 2018 world cup we invented the game and it will be 52 years when we last hosted it.Spain had it in 1982 and a fine world cup it was italia 90 france 98 germany 74, 06 all the major european footballing nations have had it since then except us.and since 66 away from europe mexico 70,86 argentina 78 usa 94 japan/korea 02 south africa 10 and probably a south american country in 2014.The world cup has been shared around the world since then so it's the home of football's turn(YES THE HOME OF FOOTBALL)Come on blatter have sense
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well mr blatter certainly knows how to infuriate us english and thats maybe because he doesn't like us.Why,we don't know.But anyhow to keep the world cup away from europe that long is silly and even the spanish and australians must realise that we should have the 2018 world cup we invented the game and it will be 52 years when we last hosted it.Spain had it in 1982 and a fine world cup it was italia 90 france 98 germany 74, 06 all the major european footballing nations have had it since then except us.and since 66 away from europe mexico 70,86 argentina 78 usa 94 japan/korea 02 south africa 10 and probably a south american country in 2014.The world cup has been shared around the world since then so it's the home of football's turn(YES THE HOME OF FOOTBALL)Come on blatter have sense
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Eh it was way to early for me and then this is what happens... nice stadium though!


No problemo. No doubt I will post more pictures like this in the future. I'm currently somewhat obsessed with the idea of temporary expansions to stadiums as it seems to be the most likely way for Australia to get the facilities to host a world cup finals.
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Old March 4th, 2007, 02:18 AM   #1778
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I think Sydney would handle it if there were also venues in Wollongong and Newcastle - that's three for their state. Likewise, Melbournians would probably understand (if it was explained to them very slowly) that as only one city can have two stadiums, it makes sense for it to be Perth in order to give the 'west' two stadiums (allowing a group to be played out there)... Especially if a 40k stadium were built in Geelong as well (to give Victoria 2 venues).


There's that rule that only seems to pop up for an Australian bid again. Meanwhile some English bids have 3x London, 2x Manchester, 2x Liverpool etc...
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Old March 4th, 2007, 02:37 AM   #1779
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Only real possibilities for WC 2018 are 1) England and 2) Benelux. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair because England hadn't hosted it since 1966 and Benelux never hosted it before. And since England has a way better bid then Benelux the choice is clear.

England:
Wembley - 90.000
Old Trafford - 76.000
New Anfield - 60.000 (newly built)
Emirates - 60.000
St. James - 52.000
Sunderland - 49.000
City of Man. - 48.000
Villa Park 43.000
Elland Road - 40.000
Hillsborough - 40.000

Benelux:
De Kuip 2 - 70.000 (newly built)
A'dam Arena - 65.000 (expanded)
King Boudewijn - 50.000
Antwerpen - 50.000 (expanded)
DSB - 40.000 (expanded)
Arke - 40.000 (expanded)
Brugge - 40.000 (newly built)
Liège - 40.000 (expanded)
Abe Lenstra - 40.000 (expanded)
Philips Stadion - 37.000
And all of these clubs have very, very serious plans of these expansions or newly built stadia, some already building, except for PSV but they are obliged to expand to 40.000 or they would be extremely stupid.

Since England has all of these stadia already built, they have the biggest chance for WC 2018.

Germany: 2006
France: 1998
Itay: 1990
Spain: 1982
England: 1966
Sweden: 1958
Switzerland: 1954
France: 1938
Italy: 1934

For England it's just too long ago. For Benelux would be a good first time but I think England has the best chances.
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Only real possibilities for WC 2018 are 1) England and 2) Benelux. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair because England hadn't hosted it since 1966 and Benelux never hosted it before. And since England has a way better bid then Benelux the choice is clear.

England:
Wembley - 90.000
Old Trafford - 76.000
New Anfield - 60.000 (newly built)
Emirates - 60.000
St. James - 52.000
Sunderland - 49.000
City of Man. - 48.000
Villa Park 43.000
Elland Road - 40.000
Hillsborough - 40.000

Benelux:
De Kuip 2 - 70.000 (newly built)
A'dam Arena - 65.000 (expanded)
King Boudewijn - 50.000
Antwerpen - 50.000 (expanded)
DSB - 40.000 (expanded)
Arke - 40.000 (expanded)
Brugge - 40.000 (newly built)
Liège - 40.000 (expanded)
Abe Lenstra - 40.000 (expanded)
Philips Stadion - 37.000
And all of these clubs have very, very serious plans of these expansions or newly built stadia, some already building, except for PSV but they are obliged to expand to 40.000 or they would be extremely stupid.

Since England has all of these stadia already built, they have the biggest chance for WC 2018.

Germany: 2006
France: 1998
Itay: 1990
Spain: 1982
England: 1966
Sweden: 1958
Switzerland: 1954
France: 1938
Italy: 1934

For England it's just too long ago. For Benelux would be a good first time but I think England has the best chances.

You forgot Germany also hosted it in 1974 too.
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