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Old March 9th, 2007, 12:37 AM   #1841
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proposed City of Birmingham stadium/Birmingham Sports Village

features of the stadium

- retractable roof
- retractable seats
- sliding pitch
- train link located on the exterior of the stadium (you can literally jump off the train and into the stadium)
- will be built in Saltley about 200 yards away from St. Andrew's
- will be called the City of Birmingham stadium
- can be used for football, cricket, rugby, athletics and concerts

features of the surrounding Birmingham Sports Village

- indoor arena
- soccer dome
- tennis courts
- basketball
- olympic-sized swimming pool
- health and fitness centre
- hotels
- retail
- community footbal facilities
- entertainment complex/casino (possibly)


from the official Birmingham City FC website

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Karren Brady said today that plans for a new 55,000 seat stadium for the club are very much alive and she hopes that a final decision on its viability can be made by the summer.

Blues submitted plans for a stunning new sports village in Saltley last year, which appeared to be dependent on Birmingham being given a licence to build a Super casino.

Despite the unavailability of casino funds now to support the project, the club has been looking at other ways of financing it.

"We're still talking to the council about building a new 55,000 capacity stadium for We're still talking to the council about building a new 55,000 capacity stadium for Birmingham and those talks are ongoing," said Managing Director Karren Brady.

"We hope to have some plans by the summer and at that point we'll know if it's likely to go ahead or not.

"But the council have shown a real commitment to doing this work.

"The site remains the same and it's about funding now.

"A major arm of the funding was due to be the casino and that's obviously gone now, so it's how we fill that hole."

"We really need to help ourselves by putting together a comprehensive plan for council about how a sports village could be done with investment from the football club, from outside investors and investment from the council themselves.

"We have a construction partner in place."

"They are the master planner and are effectively working out what needs to go on that site and what the right mix is to generate enough money from the outside development to build the stadium."

As well as the stadium, Blues and the council would still look to develop the area around the stadium as a sports village for the use of the general public.

"It's not just a football stadium plonked in the middle of a field it would be a community centre, a place where young people could work together, play together and be together, focused around the stadium," she added.

"We're the youngest city in Europe with nothing for young people to do and it would always be a dream to have a sports city."

















not far from St. Andrews (bottom left)

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old Birmingham Mail article

if you can't see the text on these next 2. save them as pictures and zoom in on them

Facilities

Experience


Birmingham co-owner David Sullivan said this last month

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I'll bring world cup to Brum
Feb 18 2007

By Graham Hill


DAVID Sullivan has revealed: I want to bring the World Cup to Blues... and beat Villa to it!

Birmingham City co-owner Sullivan is pushing Blues' claim to stage World Cup matches if England are awarded the tournament in 2018.

Despite constant speculation that he will sell his share in the club, Sullivan still has huge ambitions for Blues - and that includes the World Cup.

Sullivan, pictured, insists Blues' proposed 55,000-seater stadium in Saltley will be chosen as a World Cup venue, edging out Villa Park in the process.

Despite the failure of the Super casino bid for the site, which would have included a new stadium, Blues have remained in talks with the City Council.


And now Sullivan has claims that a new Birmingham City stadium could form part of England's bid to stage the World Cup 11 years from now.


"When the World Cup comes to England, hopefully in 2018, there will be matches at the City of Birmingham Stadium," said Sullivan.


"Villa's stadium may not be big enough or good enough if we get our ground.


"The City Council have said they are committed to building a new football stadium for the city. I think we'd be looking at five years from now at the earliest. But things are happening and I would imagine something could be announced in the next six months."


New Villa chairman Randy Lerner only has the capability at the moment to increase his ground's capacity to 50,000. Villa have been mentioned in the FA's outline plans to bring the World Cup to England but Sullivan is confident Blues can muscle in with their new facilities - as long as they get the go-ahead to build.


Sullivan also believes a new stadium is the answer to the club's pricing policy which has caused so much friction among fans.


"We want a 55,000-capacity stadium - then we can do deals that would fill it," he said. "We could do so much to help the working-class core support.


"I hope we'll have lots of £5 games so people will come. It's all a possibility."

rivalries and pathalogical hatred aside. the 2018 World Cup IS going to need more world class stadium's like this. i'm glad futuristic stadiums like COM, Emirates and Wembley have been built recently.
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Old March 9th, 2007, 12:51 AM   #1842
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My opinions,

I think either England or Spain should get it, both European countries with amazing soccer, especially them two because they both have the most exclusive and famous soccer leagues in the world, the Spanish League and the English Premiere League, that always compete to be the best soccer leagues in the world. One of them two should take it, but if neither of them two get it, I don't see why not China or Australia, especially China, the developing world power.
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Old March 9th, 2007, 02:11 AM   #1843
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Blatter was impressed by the wealth generated by the English club soccer.

"The way the Premier League is organized and the way it's marketed, it's remarkable," he said. "The money coming into the Premier League is exceptional. English football is shown everywhere in the world. I was in Africa and Port Moresby in Papua New Guinea and you cannot open a TV channel without watching the Premier League."
Sums up the way Blatter thinks. Not about the facilities, not about the football itself or the history, not about the players or the supporters... Just the $'s
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Old March 9th, 2007, 02:13 AM   #1844
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Blatter backs new bid candidate for 2018

BBC News report. 8/3/2007

Sepp Blatter, known for being one of most generous, sure-footed gentelmen in all of FIFA yesterday announced his enthusiasm for a new bidding candidate for the 2018 WC.

The Falkland Islands desire to host the tournament was greeted with much doubt and speculation, but Blatter immediately gave his full-hearted encouragement for such an undertaking.

"They have some great stadiums, a great footballing passion, and would create a lasting world cup legacy" said Blatter, just hours after hearing the announcement of the bid.

Some within the football community have suggested that Blatter is trying to back too many candidates, and that this is the final straw. Blatter has denied such allegations, and gave a statement today as he was flying back from his inspection of an Uzbekistan bid:

"I am not losing site of the objective here, I am just trying to get as much world-wide scope as possible so that I can meet lots of politicians and get re-elect...I mean so that we can spread the sport to all corners of the globe.

Some FIFA ministers have accused Blatter of only supporting a Falkland Islands bid because he has made a deal with the Prime minister which will ensure he gets a small percentage of the profits from the known oil deposits located in the area. Reports on this matter as are yet unconfirmed.

The Falkland Islands currently have one football stadium in place, with a capacity of 350. But Blatter appears confident the neccessary work can be done in time for 2018.

Rumours of a bid from NASA to host the 2018 World cup on the moon have not been confirmed, and thoughts are that they are just awaiting to hear whether the rotation policy will still be in place after 2014.

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Old March 9th, 2007, 04:31 AM   #1845
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proposed City of Birmingham stadium/Birmingham Sports Village

features of the stadium

- retractable roof
- retractable seats
- sliding pitch
- train link located on the exterior of the stadium (you can literally jump off the train and into the stadium)
- will be built in Saltley about 200 yards away from St. Andrew's
- will be called the City of Birmingham stadium
- can be used for football, cricket, rugby, athletics and concerts



the 2018 World Cup IS going to need more world class stadium's like this. i'm glad futuristic stadiums like COM, Emirates and Wembley have been built recently.
A lot like Telstra Dome in Melbourne, those upper tiers are a fair way from the pitch. Looks quality though and will knock the p*ss out of Villa Park for a Birmingham venue. Horrible concept in today's world, but why not get Villa in as co-tenants for a few years - share the load as it were. Villa Park could be fully re-developed into a 50k bowl before they move back. Everybody wins.

With the City of Birmingham Stadium in place by 2014, we'd have Wembley, Emirates, Stanley Park, Stadium of Light and City Of Manchester all available as purpose built new stadia, conforming to FIFA World Cup standards. Add existing stadia such as St James Park, and swap Old Trafford for the City of Manchester for the sake of capacity, and you've got most stadiums in place.

If the FA/Government is serious about the bid, they should go to Portsmouth right now and offer to help finance the additional seats needed for Pompey Village (last time I looked it was planned as a 28k stadium, if Pompey are able to finance that, the FA/Gov should step in and help with the costs of another 15k seats to bump the capacity up suitably. Perhaps do the same in Bristol at Rovers new/redeveloped ground - they are set to build it anyway, so why not go large with government assistance?

If someone can talk Norwich into building a new ground (they really need something bigger than Carrow Road), and something big goes up in Yorkshire (Bramall Lane, oldest contually used sports venue in the world - give United the money to rebuild a few stands there and trade on its history), I think the bid would be unstoppable.
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Old March 10th, 2007, 03:01 PM   #1846
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well any new perth stadium may now be 70,000 seats. and by the way the force are pushing for a 35,000 seat rectangle stadium.

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...0-2761,00.html


70,000-seat, $700m stadium plan

Exclusive: Joe Spagnolo

PERTH's proposed new outdoor stadium could end up being a 70,000-seat venue with a $700 million-plus price tag after a re-think on the size of the venue.
Taskforce head John Langoulant has revealed the group was re-thinking the idea of a 60,000-seat venue, admitting it could be too small for the future needs of the sports-mad state.

He also revealed the $600 million price tag that's been bandied around for the project could swell beyond $700 million.

With West Coast Eagles and Fremantle Dockers membership alone ballooning beyond 90,000 between them, there are now concerns that a 60,000-seat venue would be too small.

But Mr Langoulant scoffed at suggestions by Burswood that the Burswood Peninsula was the only site capable of accommodating a larger stadium, saying a rebuilt Subiaco Oval, Kitchener Park in Subiaco and land near the old East Perth power station were also suitable sites for a 70,000-plus stadium.

"We are having another look at the 60,000 figure to make sure it's the right size,'' he said.

"There has been commentary made about ensuring that what we build will meet future demands and we just want to make sure we get it right.

"But it's our view it should not go beyond 70,000.

"Every time you decide to increase the size (of the stadium) you add to the cost _ about an extra $10,000 a seat.''

Burswood says any new stadium needs to be relevant for future generations and is claiming the Burswood Peninsula is the only location that can accommodate a venue larger than 60,000 seats.
"The fear is that, as a state, we are contemplating long-term infrastructure that the Government has said may not be built for 10 years, and will need to be relevant for generations to come,'' Burswood spokeswoman Sonia Mackay-Coghill said.

"There is a very real possibility that WA may outgrow a 60,000 seat stadium during that time.

"To not plan for this when there is clearly opportunity to do so, is a missed opportunity.

"Not one of the other sites being considered can accommodate a larger stadium.''
But the Burswood proposal has its critics.

Nearby residents have formed an action group to lobby against the peninsula proposal, claiming there are environmental and public issues with the site.

"I don't want drunken hooligans wandering around our streets late at night, traffic jams every weekend and the noise of 60,000 sports fans echoing through my windows at night,'' said Jackie Oldfield, head of the action group.

Mr Langoulant claimed that out of all sites being considered, the peninsula had the worst traffic access issues.

And he raised further concerns about the extra costs involved with building a stadium on reclaimed swamp land.

Burswood claims it would cost no more than $20 million to build piled foundations for a stadium, an expense off-set by the fact that the government owns the land and would not have to buy back properties.
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Old March 11th, 2007, 02:08 PM   #1847
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I have now added that stadium list of possible English venues...

...and as a result of many asks, added some possible USA stadiums to the first page

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I have now added that stadium list of possible English venues...

...and as a result of many asks, added some possible USA stadiums to the first page

As a fan of the club, I can't have that little pic of the Stadium of Light up on that front page - so here's a better one...

http://www.pictureblinds.co.uk/footb...nderlandfg.JPG
(have removed image to save the kind folks here a bit of bandwidth)

Curiously enough, there's a lot of rumours going around Sunderland that the new board intends on expanding the capacity to 63000 and cutting gate prices in half in order to fill the stadium (making up extra revenue through extra concession stand sales/merchandising, etc., and placing a premium on number of supporters/atmosphere rather than earnings through the gate. I'll be watching VERY closely to see if they go through with the plan.

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Thanks Benjuk, it's been added
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Old March 12th, 2007, 10:07 PM   #1850
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Benjuk, it would be a lot easier to just expand St Mary's in Southampton given it is already a newly built 32,500 seat stadium. It's location is better, 5 mins from the town centre and has the potential of a railway station being built next door. Southampton also has an International Airport and is centrally located between Bournemouth and Portsmouth, the two major population centres on the south coast.
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Old March 13th, 2007, 04:17 AM   #1851
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Benjuk, it would be a lot easier to just expand St Mary's in Southampton given it is already a newly built 32,500 seat stadium. It's location is better, 5 mins from the town centre and has the potential of a railway station being built next door. Southampton also has an International Airport and is centrally located between Bournemouth and Portsmouth, the two major population centres on the south coast.
St Mary's rather than Fratton? No problem for me. Extensions often cost more than new constructions from what I've seen (16-18 million for 42000 Stadium of Light but another 6-7 million for the extra 7000 seats when extended). St Mary's also suffers from the same problem as Stadium of Light, Riverside, Pride Park, etc., of being fairly anonymous. A new 40-45k seater in Pompey could be upgraded to be more visually interesting, rather than being a highly functional bowl.
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...and as a result of many asks, added some possible USA stadiums to the first page

There are about 50 "possible USA stadiums".

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Old March 13th, 2007, 01:46 PM   #1853
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Just to let you know the City of Birmingham stadium is being showcased at MIPIM this week.

It looks very likely to go ahead.

The city aims to host one of the following within the next 25 years.

World Championships, Olympics, Commonwealth Games. (It is already Europes leading sporting championship city and they hope this will bring the additional major events which its craved.
 
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Just to let you know the City of Birmingham stadium is being showcased at MIPIM this week.

It looks very likely to go ahead.

The city aims to host one of the following within the next 25 years.

World Championships, Olympics, Commonwealth Games. (It is already Europes leading sporting championship city and they hope this will bring the additional major events which its craved.
Good shout for the Commonwealth Games because, really, who else wants it? Not a snowball's chance in hell of getting the Olympics within 25 years - with London coming up, it'll decades before England gets it again (and rightly so). It'll be a sure fire host venue for the World Cup though.
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2018 is going to CONCACAF, thats northamerica, posible candidates:

USA
Mexico
Canada
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No.
USA has a small chance. Mexico has a minimal chance. Canada has a fish's arse size chance at getting it.

Australia has a small chance. Spain has a decent chance. England has a next to gareentee chance.

Okie dokie.
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Just to let you know the City of Birmingham stadium is being showcased at MIPIM this week.

It looks very likely to go ahead.

The city aims to host one of the following within the next 25 years.

World Championships, Olympics, Commonwealth Games. (It is already Europes leading sporting championship city and they hope this will bring the additional major events which its craved.
I hope your right, this would be a great addition to the world cup bid and it's a truly superb looking stadium (my favourite).
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2018 is going to CONCACAF, thats northamerica, posible candidates:

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and you know this because?
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and you know this because?
Because Blatter made some half arsed contradictory statement saying that the rotation may continue... A couple of hours later he contradicted himself by saying that England's bid was excellent and UEFA would definately have a chance to host in 2018.
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