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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 02:46 PM   #1961
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I get the feeling that there is going to be a line of clubs (both Sheffield sides, Leeds, Preston/Blackpool, Southampton/Portsmouth/Bristol City, Derby, Nott'm Forest, Wolves, etc.) trying to get extra cash out of the government/FA to bring their facilities up to scratch - I'd like to see the clubs that have got their own sh*t together being 'rewarded'.
What the hell are you going on about? Wolves built thier own stadium unlike Manchester City, Wolves have funded a new world class Training facilty ... on thier own, Wolves have plans to develop the stadium ... on thier own.

Same as Derby, Preston, Southampton and Portsmouth.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 06:57 PM   #1962
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However I would have thought Newcastle to be able to offer more interms of infrastructure and tourism for fans. Newcastle has an international airport, metro system linking the airport with all of Newcastle, Gateshead, the coast and St James Park. Newcastle has fantastic cultural attractions such as the Baltic Centre (one of largest contemporary art centres in europe). The Angel of the North and recently regenerated Grainger town, a distrct in the heart of Newcastle, which blends Victorian & Georgian architecture with modern cafe culture. It also has Europes largest shopping complex in the Metro Centre. Plus a fantastic nightlife which I am sure all the football fans would appreciate.
Can't dissagree that Newcastle has more to offer visitors than Sunderland, but then again, Sunderland is only 20 minutes away from the middle of Newcastle by Metro, 30 minutes by car... I tend to agree that it would be Sunderland as well as Newcastle rather than instead of.

As for Newcastle's expansion - bare in mind no renders were ever released of the expansion plan, no planning permission has been applied for, and a lot of the land they have marked out for building is (allegedly) not available - and that it just happened to be announced as Sunderland hit the top of the Championship table, with nothing but silence since.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 07:05 PM   #1963
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What the hell are you going on about? Wolves built thier own stadium unlike Manchester City, Wolves have funded a new world class Training facilty ... on thier own, Wolves have plans to develop the stadium ... on thier own.

Same as Derby, Preston, Southampton and Portsmouth.
Not intended as a slight toward Wolves or any of the other clubs mentioned. A simple statement of fact - Sunderland and Newcastle both already have 48k plus stadiums, both have proved that when given any level of success they can fill those stadiums, both are currently in the Premier League with new owners, and are optimistic about the future.

With the exception of Derby and Portsmoth, the other teams I listed are not currently in the Premier League, and are well short of the required capacity. Pompey's new ground is planned well short of the 40k required, I suggested at the time they announced it that the plan would be to get the government (whether local or national) to pony up some extra cash to make the venue world cup friendly - I'll stand by that assesment because it would be dumb of any business NOT to take advantage of any outside funding.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 08:14 PM   #1964
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Can't dissagree that Newcastle has more to offer visitors than Sunderland, but then again, Sunderland is only 20 minutes away from the middle of Newcastle by Metro, 30 minutes by car... I tend to agree that it would be Sunderland as well as Newcastle rather than instead of.

As for Newcastle's expansion - bare in mind no renders were ever released of the expansion plan, no planning permission has been applied for, and a lot of the land they have marked out for building is (allegedly) not available - and that it just happened to be announced as Sunderland hit the top of the Championship table, with nothing but silence since.

I have only seen renders of the conference centre and hotels planned as part of this expansion. But never any images of an extended St James Park, hence why I used the photoshop image. Didn't realise they announced this info when Sunderland got to the top of Championship, how cheeky of them. However Newcastle might be planning as Aston Villa are, to expand for the 2012 Olympics, as their stadium is going to be used for the Olympic football tournament.

I would expect that both would be used in potential 2018 W.C as both teams have large fan bases and clubs could afford expansions instead of asking government for money, which I am sure the goverment would approve of. However Sunderlands future expansions are a lot easier then Newcastles. Newcastle can't expand on one side due to listed building, and on the other where they can (Gallowgate end), there is a metor line that runs in that area so makes it trickier.
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Old June 23rd, 2007, 06:50 PM   #1965
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I think Canada should bid for World Cup 2018! We did so good in the Gold Cup this year making all the way to the semi-finals facing the USA. We lost 2-1 but the game should of been tied but the line man called off side after we scored rhe tieing goal in the final seconds of the game! We got robbed and everyone knows if you don't believe me go check the highlights of the last goal it clearly shows we were on-side, but then again the USA has to get everything. We also moved up 38 spots in the FIFA rankings. Also the FIFA U-20 World Cup will be help in Canada this year mostly in Toronto and just about all the tickets for each game is sold out, it is said that 95% of the whole event is sold out! Also Toronto recieved a new soccer team this year in the MLS league called Toronto FC which everyone thought would not survuve but to their surprise All the season tickets sold out in 2 months time, and all single game tickets are sold out! Soccer does really well in Canada it's just that too many people think all Canada cares about is Hockey and that is not true! Canada would host an amazing World Cup especially the city of Toronto which is the most-multicultural city in the World! All we need to do is prove that were capable of hosting the World Cup 2018 this summer with Fifa U-20 world cup! Canada for World Cup 2018!
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Old June 23rd, 2007, 07:05 PM   #1966
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I think Canada should bid for World Cup 2018! We did so good in the Gold Cup this year making all the way to the semi-finals facing the USA. We lost 2-1 but the game should of been tied but the line man called off side after we scored rhe tieing goal in the final seconds of the game! We got robbed and everyone knows if you don't believe me go check the highlights of the last goal it clearly shows we were on-side, but then again the USA has to get everything. We also moved up 38 spots in the FIFA rankings. Also the FIFA U-20 World Cup will be help in Canada this year mostly in Toronto and just about all the tickets for each game is sold out, it is said that 95% of the whole event is sold out! Also Toronto recieved a new soccer team this year in the MLS league called Toronto FC which everyone thought would not survuve but to their surprise All the season tickets sold out in 2 months time, and all single game tickets are sold out! Soccer does really well in Canada it's just that too many people think all Canada cares about is Hockey and that is not true! Canada would host an amazing World Cup especially the city of Toronto which is the most-multicultural city in the World! All we need to do is prove that were capable of hosting the World Cup 2018 this summer with Fifa U-20 world cup! Canada for World Cup 2018!

Maybe I think so...!!
2006 Europe
2010 Africa
2014 South America
2018 North America
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Old June 23rd, 2007, 09:07 PM   #1967
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Maybe I think so...!!
2006 Europe
2010 Africa
2014 South America
2018 North America
By FIFA President said!!
Thats just ridiculous tho, Europe cant go 16 years without a world cup, the continent which makes up half the teams in the toutnrament, the continent which is the heart and soul of world football, the best leagues, the best teams, most watched matches on TV, home of UEFA, without which FIFA literally doesn't exist, etc etc.

Another reason why Sepp Blatter is an Idiot.

England 2018 makes the most sense
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Old June 24th, 2007, 02:57 AM   #1968
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No Canada should have it! We deserve it
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Old June 24th, 2007, 06:44 PM   #1970
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With Sepp Blatter and the like running the show certainly would not be suprised (and as an American really hoping) to see the US win the 2018 bid. Everyone should keep in mind how much FIFA loves money, whether you see it is the right move or not (and I can certainly understand alot of Europeans, and especially in the UK having serious issues with this).
Oh and Canada would REALLY need to work on stadium infrastructure and maybe making it into the top 40 or 50 teams in the world if they are going to host it. Gold Cup sure, World Cup is a long way off if it does happen, maybe around 2034 or something.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 07:34 PM   #1971
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With Sepp Blatter and the like running the show certainly would not be suprised (and as an American really hoping) to see the US win the 2018 bid. Everyone should keep in mind how much FIFA loves money, whether you see it is the right move or not (and I can certainly understand alot of Europeans, and especially in the UK having serious issues with this).
Were really double damned in that respect, FIFA hates UEFA because they control the richest footballing markets and both FIFA and UEFA hate the FA because they controll the richest league.
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It's not what you deserve, that matters. It's what football deserve.
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^ and I think Canada is a nation that loves the ga,e of football but is shadowed by other sports, mostly hockey! Canada is an un-tapped market for Soccer and I can gurantee you that if we were to host the world cup many, many Canadians will come to love the game! Honestly, you should of been in Toronto for last year's world Cup it was CRAZY! Ask anyone from Toronto!
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Old June 25th, 2007, 06:49 PM   #1974
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With Sepp Blatter and the like running the show certainly would not be suprised (and as an American really hoping) to see the US win the 2018 bid. Everyone should keep in mind how much FIFA loves money, whether you see it is the right move or not (and I can certainly understand alot of Europeans, and especially in the UK having serious issues with this).
Oh and Canada would REALLY need to work on stadium infrastructure and maybe making it into the top 40 or 50 teams in the world if they are going to host it. Gold Cup sure, World Cup is a long way off if it does happen, maybe around 2034 or something.
wow... u said : 40 or 50 teams?? but I dont believe it!!
Uruguay 1930-13teams
Italy 1934-16teams
France 1938-15teams
cancelled 1942 - x team because the war of world!!
cancelled 1946 - x team because the war of world!!
Brazil 1950 - 14teams but off turkey and scotland
Switzerland 1954 -16teams
Sweden 1958 -16teams
Chile 1962 - 16Teams
England 1970 - 16teams
West Germany 1974 - 16teams
Argntina 1978 - 16teams
Spain 1982 - 24teams
Mexico 1986 - 24teams
Italy 1990 - 24teams
USA 1994 - 24teams
France 1998 - 32teams
Korea/Japan 2002 - 32teams
Germany 2006 - 32Teams
South Africa 2010 -32teams
South America 2014 - 32 Teams
I think guess only
North America 2018 - 36teams (maybe)
Europe 2022 -36teams (maybe)
Asian (China vs Australia) 2026 -36teams (maybe)
Uruguay 2030 - 40teams for 100years ago from 1930 first
Europe 2034 - 40teams
North America -48teams for finished champion title!!
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I was saying that if Canada wants to host, their national team should be ranked in the top forty or fifty for worldwide rankings, not that the format should be expanded. The 32 team format is fine, but if FIFA were to expand to 32 or even up past 40 I couldn't really complain, just more world class football to watch.
I have always thought the best format for a tournament is a 64 team single game elimination, but is your team got knocked out in round the travel costs really aren't worth it for most of us, and being every four years there has got to be more games for everyone.
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Old June 25th, 2007, 10:25 PM   #1976
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wow... u said : 40 or 50 teams?? but I dont believe it!!
Uruguay 1930-13teams
Italy 1934-16teams
France 1938-15teams
cancelled 1942 - x team because the war of world!!
cancelled 1946 - x team because the war of world!!
Brazil 1950 - 14teams but off turkey and scotland
Switzerland 1954 -16teams
Sweden 1958 -16teams
Chile 1962 - 16Teams
England 1970 - 16teams
West Germany 1974 - 16teams
Argntina 1978 - 16teams
Spain 1982 - 24teams
Mexico 1986 - 24teams
Italy 1990 - 24teams
USA 1994 - 24teams
France 1998 - 32teams
Korea/Japan 2002 - 32teams
Germany 2006 - 32Teams
South Africa 2010 -32teams
South America 2014 - 32 Teams
I think guess only
North America 2018 - 36teams (maybe)
Europe 2022 -36teams (maybe)
Asian (China vs Australia) 2026 -36teams (maybe)
Uruguay 2030 - 40teams for 100years ago from 1930 first
Europe 2034 - 40teams
North America -48teams for finished champion title!!
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wow... u said : 40 or 50 teams?? but I dont believe it!!
Uruguay 1930-13teams
Italy 1934-16teams
France 1938-15teams
cancelled 1942 - x team because the war of world!!
cancelled 1946 - x team because the war of world!!
Brazil 1950 - 14teams but off turkey and scotland
Switzerland 1954 -16teams
Sweden 1958 -16teams
Chile 1962 - 16Teams
England 1970 - 16teams
West Germany 1974 - 16teams
Argntina 1978 - 16teams
Spain 1982 - 24teams
Mexico 1986 - 24teams
Italy 1990 - 24teams
USA 1994 - 24teams
France 1998 - 32teams
Korea/Japan 2002 - 32teams
Germany 2006 - 32Teams
South Africa 2010 -32teams
South America 2014 - 32 Teams
I think guess only
North America 2018 - 36teams (maybe)
Europe 2022 -36teams (maybe)
Asian (China vs Australia) 2026 -36teams (maybe)
Uruguay 2030 - 40teams for 100years ago from 1930 first
Europe 2034 - 40teams
North America -48teams for finished champion title!!
You assume the rotation will continue in order for the finals to be in North America in 2018, then you take it back to Europe for 2022 rather than to Asia... Either the rotation continues, and we have North America, then Asia before Europe, or reality prevails and we have Europe before North America, then Asia.

Personally, in order to maintain the 'standard' of participants in the finals, I don't think the comp will ever get above 36 teams. I think 4 will be added in the near future in order to sort out a few political issues, but no more after that...

However, to contradict myself, when the USA next gets the finals, I actually think they should double the number of qualification spots to 64 as a one off in view of the fact that the US is the only country that could cope with a finals on that scale.
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Old June 26th, 2007, 05:57 AM   #1978
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Thats just ridiculous tho, Europe cant go 16 years without a world cup, the continent which makes up half the teams in the toutnrament, the continent which is the heart and soul of world football, the best leagues, the best teams, most watched matches on TV, home of UEFA, without which FIFA literally doesn't exist, etc etc.

Another reason why Sepp Blatter is an Idiot.

England 2018 makes the most sense
with all respect, but i disegree with you.

the heart and soul of world football?

you have to be kidding me.

worls cups... brazil 5
more times as WC top scorer.... pele 4....brazil
lasrgest number of spectetors.... 174000 maracana...brazil
best player of anytime....maradona....argentina
football club with more international titles.... boca juniors... argentina
most exiting club tournament in the world...copa libertadores... south america




players you adore as ronaldinho, messi, roberto carlos, kaka, crespo, riquelme, recoba......you could go for a long time...as in mayor clubs in europe the better players in most cases are all south american.

so if anyplace is the heart and soul of football there is not doubt about it
it will be SOUTH AMERICA
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Old June 26th, 2007, 06:18 AM   #1979
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Thats just ridiculous tho, Europe cant go 16 years without a world cup, the continent which makes up half the teams in the toutnrament, the continent which is the heart and soul of world football, the best leagues, the best teams, most watched matches on TV, home of UEFA, without which FIFA literally doesn't exist, etc etc.

Another reason why Sepp Blatter is an Idiot.

England 2018 makes the most sense
The heart and soul of world football is in south america. Europe has money, then bring all of our good soccer players to europeans teams. And the south american teams won the last two FIFA world cup in Japan...
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Old June 26th, 2007, 11:29 AM   #1980
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As long as FIFA 2018 goes to a new host country: China, Canada, Australia, Russia, etc. All would be satisfactory choices, but of course I'd like Canada to be the next North American host. The other 2 North American countries capable of hosting have already done so. (Mexico and the USA)

Canada has the population centres and a booming interest in soccer from relative obscurity. Only stadium infrastructure is an obstacle.

There are 10 cities over 500,000 people:

Toronto (5.4M)
Montreal (3.7M)
Vancouver (2.3M)
Ottawa (1.1M)
Calgary (1.1M)

Edmonton (1.1M)
Quebec City (0.8M)
Winnipeg (0.8M)
Hamilton (0.7M)
Kitchener-Waterloo (0.5M)

Other probable candidate host cities Halifax and Victoria both have 400,000 people.

The U-20 World Cup that Canada is set to host this July will be a good test.
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