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Old January 14th, 2007, 01:07 PM   #181
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Old January 14th, 2007, 03:11 PM   #182
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Old January 14th, 2007, 04:09 PM   #183
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don't forget Trump Tower!
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Old January 14th, 2007, 07:25 PM   #184
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Old January 14th, 2007, 07:51 PM   #185
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Don't forget quality constrution takes time! I think HK wants this building to stand longer then 50 years, the time after many towers in Dubai may be demolishes.
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Old January 14th, 2007, 11:24 PM   #186
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also the towers in dubai can stand over 100 or even 200 years
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Old January 15th, 2007, 01:58 PM   #187
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Don't forget quality constrution takes time! I think HK wants this building to stand longer then 50 years, the time after many towers in Dubai may be demolishes.
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Old January 15th, 2007, 03:26 PM   #188
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Don't forget quality constrution takes time! I think HK wants this building to stand longer then 50 years, the time after many towers in Dubai may be demolishes.

What a load of nonsense on both counts.
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Old January 16th, 2007, 11:27 AM   #189
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Old January 16th, 2007, 12:25 PM   #190
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its 15 resi floors below harbour towers roof,thus 15x 3m=45m -255m= 210m. which is approx height at lev49.
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BURJD= LEV105/389M
SWFC=LEV78/336M
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Old January 16th, 2007, 12:54 PM   #191
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i would say the BIG 4:

B.DUBAI
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HK ICC
and CH TRUMP TOWER: current level 21 ? // current height 80 m?
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Old January 16th, 2007, 01:17 PM   #192
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trumps towers only a shorty. 350m? dubai has a dozen this height uc.lol
the next big ones worth mentioning are over 400m to roof- freedom tower 417m, 432m west pearl,china.kuwait tower-412m, doha towers-400m,busan tower,494m?,al abait towers 400m+?,
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Old January 16th, 2007, 02:18 PM   #193
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I think ch trump tower will be 415, but with the spire. So you are right, it's not over 400 to the roof. I don't want to open the eternal debate about the heights to the roof or with the spire.
Anyway, I think chicago trump tower it's worth mentioning only for it's beautiful design and the impact to ch skyline.
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Old January 16th, 2007, 03:20 PM   #194
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its 15 resi floors below harbour towers roof,thus 15x 3m=45m -255m= 210m. which is approx height at lev49.

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Old January 16th, 2007, 07:41 PM   #195
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Old January 16th, 2007, 11:04 PM   #196
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What a load of nonsense on both counts.
all of these buildings will stand much longer than 50 years, even in Dubai..

Think of all the structures from hundreds and hundreds of years ago that are standing and usable.. The leaning tower of Pisa (while not useable) may be solid, but its not built anywhere near as strong (and the quality of materials doest even compare) as these new massive towers that are popping up all over the place. That leaning tower has been standing all this time, and while leaning as well, which should be putting much much more stress on the foundation and the bottom portion of that tower that normal. I cant figure out why Im hearing about such a short life span on all these towers as well.. The ESB is well over 50 years old, should that be torn down? the structure on the ESB will remain solid for probably hundreds more years if nothing happens to it.. probably would be renovated a half dozen times before tearing it down and Im sure the same fact stands for most of the buildings elsewhere (in Dubai as well). Shit, a common wooden frame house will last over 200 years if built right...
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Old January 16th, 2007, 11:09 PM   #197
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Old January 17th, 2007, 12:33 AM   #198
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all of these buildings will stand much longer than 50 years, even in Dubai..

Think of all the structures from hundreds and hundreds of years ago that are standing and usable.. The leaning tower of Pisa (while not useable) may be solid, but its not built anywhere near as strong (and the quality of materials doest even compare) as these new massive towers that are popping up all over the place. That leaning tower has been standing all this time, and while leaning as well, which should be putting much much more stress on the foundation and the bottom portion of that tower that normal. I cant figure out why Im hearing about such a short life span on all these towers as well.. The ESB is well over 50 years old, should that be torn down? the structure on the ESB will remain solid for probably hundreds more years if nothing happens to it.. probably would be renovated a half dozen times before tearing it down and Im sure the same fact stands for most of the buildings elsewhere (in Dubai as well). Shit, a common wooden frame house will last over 200 years if built right...
I think when they talk about the lifetime of the building, they take the worst case scenario and thats also not considering the maintenance of a structure, which would increase the life of a building by many years, assuming it isn't intentionally demolished.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 01:02 AM   #199
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Well by way of comparison I can tell you that Q1 was designed to stand for 500 years, by contrast the facade needs replacing every 50 years.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 02:32 AM   #200
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My intuition tells me that the old steel framed, brick facade buildings and skyscrapers, like the one's you see in New York seem destined to last longer, only because from the outside brick seems stronger than glass. But i know i'm wrong since the buildings today use stronger and more advanced materials, than the skyscrapers they built in the 1930s.
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