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Old December 3rd, 2007, 07:20 AM   #2141
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It looks smallish for 360 meter'ish.
The buildings surrounding it are quite tall but wide, which may have an optical "shrinking" effect on the ICC.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 12:40 PM   #2142
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90th floor= 355m (from actual plans)
as for number of actual floors. any with number 4 are ommitted, thus levels 4,14,24,34,44,54,64,74,84 (total 9) are missing, so they are actually up to 81 above grd.
floors are averaging 4.4m each.thus 81x 4.4m=356m.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 01:34 PM   #2143
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 01:46 PM   #2144
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90th floor= 355m (from actual plans)
as for number of actual floors. any with number 4 are ommitted, thus levels 4,14,24,34,44,54,64,74,84 (total 9) are missing, so they are actually up to 81 above grd.
floors are averaging 4.4m each.thus 81x 4.4m=356m.
does that mean floors 40,41,42,43,45,46,47,48,49 are ok then?
I respect chinese culture but this is plain stupid!
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 02:00 PM   #2145
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does that mean floors 40,41,42,43,45,46,47,48,49 are ok then?
I respect chinese culture but this is plain stupid!

I respect your stupidity and ignorance.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 02:10 PM   #2146
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I respect your stupidity and ignorance.
if i am ignorant and you are better informed
please explain how some number fours are ok and others are not
i`m intrigued to know
answered my own question

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[edit] Four
Main article: Tetraphobia
Number 4 (四; accounting 肆; pinyin s) is considered an unlucky number in Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese and Japanese cultures because it sounds like the word "death" (死 pinyin sǐ). Due to that, many numbered product lines skip the "4": e.g. Nokia cell phones (there is no series beginning with a 4), Palm PDAs, the Leisure Suit Larry games, Canon PowerShot G's series (after G3 goes G5), etc. In East Asia, some buildings do not have a 4th floor. (Compare with the American practice of some buildings not having a 13th floor because 13 is considered unlucky.) In Hong Kong, some high-rise residential buildings miss ALL floor numbers with "4", e.g. 4, 14, 24, 34 and all 40-49 floors. As a result, a building with 50th as the highest floor may actually have 36.

Number 14 is considered to be one of the unluckiest numbers in Chinese culture. Although 14 is usually said as "shi si," which sounds like "ten die", it can also be said as "yi si" or "yao si", literally "one four". Thus, 14 can also be said as "yao si," literally "one four," but it also means "want to die" (要死 pinyin yo sǐ). In Cantonese, 14 sounds like "sap6 sei3", which sounds like "sat6 sei2" meaning "certainly die" (實死).

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Old December 3rd, 2007, 04:34 PM   #2147
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if i am ignorant and you are better informed
please explain how some number fours are ok and others are not
i`m intrigued to know
Obviously, if the number '4' has a superstituous connotation, then so do other numbers...
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 05:55 PM   #2148
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does that mean floors 40,41,42,43,45,46,47,48,49 are ok then?
I respect chinese culture but this is plain stupid!
Yes, those numbers are OK and even at IFC2 they exist. 44 is double death, so it's out. The others aren't so bothersome.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 12:58 AM   #2149
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Another tool complaining about floor numbers...
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Old December 4th, 2007, 01:05 AM   #2150
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does that mean floors 40,41,42,43,45,46,47,48,49 are ok then?
I respect chinese culture but this is plain stupid!
no, just the last number 4. so 94 will be omitted, 104 and 114. so total of 12 will be missing. thus total actual floors will be 106 above grd.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 04:54 AM   #2151
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This is my first post. As with "4" and "13", I don't think the Burj Dubai has any superstitions concerning these floor numbers.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 05:15 AM   #2152
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does that mean floors 40,41,42,43,45,46,47,48,49 are ok then?
I respect chinese culture but this is plain stupid!
I understand if they want to just omit 44 but all these floors with number 4 being omitted is truly nonsensical. If there are "forces" or out there causing bad luck or omens then does one think those "forces" could be fooled if you, for example, call the fourth level floor "5"? You would still be on the fourth level, like it or not. Your "bad luck" then is still upon you. Same thing goes for number 13.

No biggy but I think it just ruins the floor numbering of a building.


Hey highup thanks for explaining in detail the number 4 etc in buildings. I didn't really know how it works in Asian culture.

So ICC really will be 106 floors above ground
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Old December 4th, 2007, 07:37 AM   #2153
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Usually buildings will omit 4/F and all other floor numbers ending in 4, but not beginning with 4 (there are exceptions). It's not about the actual floor count but simply the name of the floor that one resides on or works on.

I don't see any business lost due to floor numberings so it is not a problem.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 08:17 AM   #2154
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its because that 4 sounds like death in chinese...
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Old December 4th, 2007, 08:48 AM   #2155
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Could they not just change the name of the number instead? Then there wouldn't be a need for messing up the floor numbering and total count all the time.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 12:47 PM   #2156
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Old December 4th, 2007, 12:57 PM   #2157
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Japanese has alternate pronunciations for the numbers 4 and 7. To my knowledge Hong Kong has the most widely accepted habit of skipping floor numbers on almost all buildings. I wonder how it is in other Chinese-speaking areas.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 01:21 PM   #2158
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alot of western countries dont include lev13 in there bldg.superstitious/ silly
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Old December 4th, 2007, 01:53 PM   #2159
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wait a minute 26 28 29 were also skipped?

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Old December 4th, 2007, 01:59 PM   #2160
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^yeah i was going to mention that. but somewhere else it makes up for those 3 floors.
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