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Old August 29th, 2008, 05:28 AM   #3581
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I think the days of trying to go supertall and outdo other cities by building the "world's tallest" is over as far as mature cities are concerned. While cities like Dubai have the idea that they have to show the world what they are capable of, cities like HK, NYC now tend to focus on how a building will fit into the skyline and environment on a whole. I'm not saying that height is not an important factor, but it's nowhere near as important as it used to be.

The fact that HK is not scrambling to build the next "world's tallest" is, in my mind, a sign of maturity and confidence.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 07:23 AM   #3582
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Don't let that fool you - NY has some massive 300m+ projects going on at the moment. On the other hand, in a 10 year span (5 years ago to 5 years after), Hong Kong will have built but 3.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 09:59 AM   #3583
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I think the days of trying to go supertall and outdo other cities by building the "world's tallest" is over as far as mature cities are concerned. While cities like Dubai have the idea that they have to show the world what they are capable of, cities like HK, NYC now tend to focus on how a building will fit into the skyline and environment on a whole. I'm not saying that height is not an important factor, but it's nowhere near as important as it used to be.

The fact that HK is not scrambling to build the next "world's tallest" is, in my mind, a sign of maturity and confidence.
I'm not talking about the race to a tallest, it's not fitting imo (especially now the tallest has to beat the Burj Dubai). Rather, I'm talking about the (re)development of Hong Kong as a whole, which has slowed somewhat from the heydays in the 1980s, and the mentality (no doubt magnified by the press) against tall buildings and NIMBYs as a whole. I agree completely about the fallacy in building tall for the sake of building tall, which can totally unbalance a skyline's appearance.

Simply put, I don't agree with what appears to be many's solution and general opinion to HK's skyscraper wall problem, which is simply to build shorter. Rather, careful thought needs to be put into all the factors that come into a skyscraper, whether environmental, financial, aesthetic, etc etc
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Old August 29th, 2008, 10:42 AM   #3584
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Old August 29th, 2008, 11:34 AM   #3585
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Rather, careful thought needs to be put into all the factors that come into a skyscraper, whether environmental, financial, aesthetic, etc etc
Sure, but HK's developers right now seem focused on only one of the things that you listed (guess which).

While the more recent HK buildings are built to good structural standards, cost cutting can be seen in bland exteriors, stingy lobby and clubhouse size, poor fitment of parts, flimsy appliances, thin and cracking paint, loose window frames, and I've even read about uneven floor surfaces! Yes, I'm talking about newly-built projects.

These little problems can be seen from the most basic to the most prestigious of developments. Although I won't name names or places, I have personal experience.

Although it sounds like whining and wishful thinking, I feel that the government should usher in a new era of tighter regulation for the housing industry.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 01:24 PM   #3586
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Old August 29th, 2008, 01:56 PM   #3587
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clouds on both photos are amazing like the tongue of fire on the first one!
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Old August 29th, 2008, 08:19 PM   #3588
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Sure, but HK's developers right now seem focused on only one of the things that you listed (guess which).

Although it sounds like whining and wishful thinking, I feel that the government should usher in a new era of tighter regulation for the housing industry.
Precisely, I never pretended my comments were anything more than wishful thinking of my parts, but just my opinion on how HK's skyline's (and the city itself's) quality as a whole can be so much better in my perfect world.

Obviously, in real life, we have a lot more to contend with. Even with the government regulations in place (which I expect would be minimal, unless they had a full town planning board that had authority over every aspect of submitted projects), we would still have environmentalists complaining no matter what was being built, differing public opinions, and in the case of redevelopments, tenants unwilling to budge. Add this and any other factors I've missed, the whole system might well transform into a massive bureaucratic mess that never sees anything built.

I've heard news about new housing projects that are shabby in construction from the news, though none come to mind specifically. It seems that those estates my relatives and family friends live in have not had such significant problems that we've heard them complain.
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Old August 30th, 2008, 05:59 PM   #3589
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Old August 30th, 2008, 10:49 PM   #3590
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Hi all.

This thing is really starting to dominate the skyline.

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This has become the "post random pictures of Hong Kong thread", it's seems hard to not take a picture without ICC in it somewhere.
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Old August 30th, 2008, 11:22 PM   #3593
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I have to agree, the glass looks amazing.

What will be in the building? just the tall one?
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I have to agree, the glass looks amazing.

What will be in the building? just the tall one?
Offices and hotel.
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Old August 31st, 2008, 08:43 AM   #3597
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Damn they move fast, last time I check on this thing. There was nothing there.
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Old August 31st, 2008, 12:08 PM   #3598
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Old September 1st, 2008, 03:40 PM   #3599
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I just noticed they lit the thing up at night



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Old September 1st, 2008, 07:10 PM   #3600
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