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Old October 27th, 2009, 12:50 AM   #6161
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yes, in that photo harbourside doesnt even look that bad.
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Old October 28th, 2009, 06:12 AM   #6162
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chill up. another one from MF.

the roof was almost done last year

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Old October 28th, 2009, 06:30 AM   #6163
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Another great edifice for Hong Kong is now coming to completion.By the way the pics are great,specially th ones taken from afar.I hope building like the ICC could be going up in LA but that will probably not happen anytime soon.
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Old October 28th, 2009, 08:41 PM   #6164
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Old October 28th, 2009, 10:12 PM   #6165
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Sweet shot!!! How high is the mountaintop you were on?
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Old October 29th, 2009, 02:27 AM   #6166
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Victoria Peak at its tallest is not much taller than ICC.
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Old October 29th, 2009, 08:26 AM   #6167
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Hmm, my brother will be going to HK in early Nov, hope the sky will be more clear by then so that he can take nice pics
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Old October 29th, 2009, 08:52 AM   #6168
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There is good news for him. Skies are pretty clean now. Time for some new shots.
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Old October 29th, 2009, 10:28 AM   #6169
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Ribarca, in what tower did you live? From where did you take your photos of Central?
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Old October 29th, 2009, 02:15 PM   #6170
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Ritz-Carlton plans return to Hong Kong as the world's tallest hotel
28 October 2009
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Luxury hotel chain The Ritz-Carlton will return to the city next year following the closure of its Hong Kong branch in Central last year.

Mark DeCocinis, its regional vice-president for the Asia-Pacific region, told a press briefing in Hong Kong yesterday that the new six-star hotel would open in Kowloon in December next year.

It will occupy the top 17 floors of the 118-storey International Commerce Centre (ICC), making it the tallest hotel in the world.

The hotel will offer 312 guest rooms, ranging from 50-square-metre deluxe harbour-view rooms to 365-square-metre suites. It will also feature bars, restaurants, a club lounge, a spa and a ballroom set to be the city's second largest.

DeCocinis said the hotel aimed to be "a new social centre in Hong Kong", and room rates would be set "at the top level" compared to other hotels in the city.

He said he expected occupancy rates of about 70 per cent during the first year of operation. "We have many very loyal guests following us. Many corporate business travellers are waiting for Ritz-Carlton to come back," he said.

The chain will also open a new hotel in Krabi, Thailand, later this year, and one in Pudong, Shanghai, in April.

DeCocinis said he was optimistic about the high-end hotel market in the region as economies recovered.

"We know the business in Hong Kong and mainland China is playing very well," he said. "The business travellers are coming back now. And we also expect there will be more leisure travellers as well."

The hotel chain operates 73 hotels around the world and is developing more than 30 new hotels and residential projects.
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Old October 29th, 2009, 04:27 PM   #6171
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It won't be the same though.
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Old October 29th, 2009, 05:48 PM   #6172
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Old October 29th, 2009, 06:24 PM   #6173
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just beautiful . hk needs more supertalls like this beauty.
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Old October 30th, 2009, 02:13 AM   #6174
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just beautiful . hk needs more supertalls like this beauty.
Yup, I wonder what the next supertall for HK is going to be after ICC is finished. Hopefully they will buildit right away just as Shanghai did when they started Shanghai Centre right after the completion of SWFC.
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Old October 30th, 2009, 02:35 AM   #6175
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With 7 supertalls, more than any city in the world, I don't think they'll be getting too many more of them soon.

Although it would be totally awesome if they did. They need to prevent Dubai from getting the title of most supertalls in one city; that'll probably be impossible, though, considering Dubai is going to have 20 supertalls by 2012.

I think Hong Kong has more *quality* supertalls than Dubai, though. In general I've not been pleased with Dubai architecture, but I love Hong Kong's ICC, IFC, and Bank of China Tower. Just my opinion...

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Old October 30th, 2009, 02:48 AM   #6176
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I hope there isn't an oversupply already since there have been.... how many?

3 supertalls build in the last 5 years? Nina Tower, One Island East and ICC. HK builds when there is *real* demand.

But with the land prices the way they are... you never know.

The world record price per sq. foot was recently set in Hong Kong, where Developer Henderson Land Development said it had sold a deluxe duplex in the Mid-Levels district on the lower slopes of the city's exclusive Peak for the equivalent of $9,100 (U.S.) per square foot

In comparison, a London flat by the Thames would fetch £2,000 pounds ($3,200) per square foot, while an apartment overlooking New York's Central Park would go for $4,000 per square foot.

...well a small price to pay for paradise I say!
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Old October 30th, 2009, 03:26 AM   #6177
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With 7 supertalls, more than any city in the world, I don't think they'll be getting too many more of them soon.

Although it would be totally awesome if they did. They need to prevent Dubai from getting the title of most supertalls in one city; that'll probably be impossible, though, considering Dubai is going to have 20 supertalls by 2012.

I think Hong Kong has more *quality* supertalls than Dubai, though. In general I've not been pleased with Dubai architecture, but I love Hong Kong's ICC, IFC, and Bank of China Tower. Just my opinion...
Hong Kong's property market is more or less demand driven, and it's tall buildings are out of necessity - lack of land, more than anything else. This is a different case compared to most cities around the world, which build skyscrapers not because of a lack of land, but the inherent efficiencies brought by sky scrapers once a city reaches a certain size.

Dubai is on the other extreme of the skyscraper spectrum. They have a city of barely 2 million people, and is speculating on future demand when building the skyscrapers. Of course, they claim that many of their flats, etc are bought up already, but I'm not an expert on Dubai, yet I highly doubt the demand for them is actual rather than generated by the rich. I can see them becoming another enclave/winter home for the rich though. It remains to be seem if such a large scale of development can be sustained, though.
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Old October 30th, 2009, 03:34 AM   #6178
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Wow! another new born of Hong Kong! It's Topping out!! I love this tower and it is huge!
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Old October 30th, 2009, 04:16 AM   #6179
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Hong Kong's property market is more or less demand driven, and it's tall buildings are out of necessity - lack of land, more than anything else. This is a different case compared to most cities around the world, which build skyscrapers not because of a lack of land, but the inherent efficiencies brought by sky scrapers once a city reaches a certain size.

Dubai is on the other extreme of the skyscraper spectrum. They have a city of barely 2 million people, and is speculating on future demand when building the skyscrapers. Of course, they claim that many of their flats, etc are bought up already, but I'm not an expert on Dubai, yet I highly doubt the demand for them is actual rather than generated by the rich. I can see them becoming another enclave/winter home for the rich though. It remains to be seem if such a large scale of development can be sustained, though.
Yeah, this is what I heard about Hong Kong. I remember reading something about how all the land developers in Hong Kong interact so that they know just how much demand there is and they really don't build unless they know they can fill the building. I'm also unsure about Dubai...so many of their buildings target rich people, but how can there be that many rich people in the world who want to move to Dubai?
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Old October 30th, 2009, 08:25 AM   #6180
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Congratulations, a new supertall building for HongKong.
This one is really tall, btw...
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