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Old May 26th, 2009, 10:46 AM   #941
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me i love the top, its like a piece of art
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:28 PM   #942
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strange, different!
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Old June 6th, 2009, 04:32 PM   #943
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DIFFERENT BUILDING WILL MAKE PARIS STRANGE.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 12:33 AM   #944
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DIFFERENT BUILDING WILL MAKE PARIS STRANGE.
Ignoring your odd addiction to Caps lock, I think the word that you are working towards is "unique". In my opinion, the best thing that this decade has given us (besides the integration of the internet so thoroughly into our society) is this new trend rebelling against those annoying cookie-cutter skyscrapers that have been being built since the mid 20th century. In no major city is this as obvious as Paris, a city that is almost universally considered to be an art and culture capital of the world, cursed with architecture completely indifferent to this fact. Paris was at least lucky enough to have the striking Grande Arche built.

Now, developers universally seem to be forsaking the box with a view for something different. Are all of these designs as radical as Tour Phare? No. Some of them are still quite bland. But I think that in a post-burj dubai world, it isn't possible to make the same mark on a skyline by throwing up a 70 story box anymore.

Some people feel that some of this new architecture goes completely overboard, and they have their rallying point in Tour Phare, which my some angles is actually quite grotesque. But it is so unlike anything that has come before, I sincerely hope that it gets built. I know detractors hate seeing the reaction of the general public to this tower compared to that of Tour Eifel, and they might be right. Maybe this tower will still be seen as a blot on the Paris skyline, if it is built, for years to come, like Tour Montparnasse (which, IMO, could look nice with a cladding update). But maybe, just maybe, it will change our view of skyscrapers for ever.
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Old June 11th, 2009, 11:44 PM   #945
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Model of Phare tower.

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Old June 12th, 2009, 04:30 AM   #946
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Absolutely breathtaking, especially the last shot.
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Old June 12th, 2009, 10:40 PM   #947
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Can't wait to see it standing tall!
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Old June 13th, 2009, 06:52 AM   #948
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Old June 13th, 2009, 11:26 AM   #949
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i also hated it in the beginning, but now when i see the model-pics, i start to like it more and more!
its very diffrent, and even if it turns out to be ugly (but i think it would be fantastic in reality), it still would be interessting and unique. something to look at for minutes, other than all the ugly AND boring towers...
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Old June 13th, 2009, 11:32 AM   #950
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Exactly how it happened with me. Nice avatar by the way, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is one of my favorite series.
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Old June 13th, 2009, 03:02 PM   #951
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I had the same feeling, at first I hate it but the models make it really exciting.
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Old June 14th, 2009, 02:55 AM   #952
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I agree with the above posts. When they first see it, I think most people's natural, initial reaction to Tour Phare will be something like, "WHAT THE F...?" But as they stare at it, captivated by its monstrosity, they'll begin to appreciate the complex engineering only made possible by modern computing, and Thom Mayne's, ahem, unusual imagination. An unusual building like this could change the popular understanding of the skyscraper, and architecture in general. Paris is home to a great deal of iconic architecture. Most of the city, Tour Eiffel in particular, is emblematic of the 19th century's concept of beauty. Here and there we also find 20th century standouts, ranging from real beauty, to hideously bare functionality. Soon we add Tour Phare to the mix, and I think we'll see that the architecture of the 21st century can be beautiful and functional and ugly and superfluous, and often all at once. It will ask people to hold conflicting notions in mind, and to understand and appreciate, though not necessarily agree with, all of them. I think that if there's anything the Los Angeles School of architects like Thom Mayne and Frank Gehry have re-taught us in this century, it's that beauty can be a function of a building, among others.

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I agree with the above posts. When they first see it, I think most people's natural, initial reaction to Tour Phare will be something like, "WHAT THE F...?" But as they stare at it, captivated by its monstrosity, they'll begin to appreciate the complex engineering only made possible by modern computing, and Thom Mayne's, ahem, unusual imagination. An unusual building like this could change the popular understanding of the skyscraper, and architecture in general. Paris is home to a great deal of iconic architecture. Most of the city, Tour Eiffel in particular, is emblematic of the 19th century's concept of beauty. Here and there we also find 20th century standouts, ranging from real beauty, to hideously bare functionality. Soon we add Tour Phare to the mix, and I think we'll see that the architecture of the 21st century can be beautiful and functional and ugly and superfluous, and often all at once. It will ask people to hold conflicting notions in mind, and to understand and appreciate, though not necessarily agree with, all of them. I think that if there's anything the Los Angeles School of architects like Thom Mayne and Frank Gehry have re-taught us in this century, it's that beauty can be one function of a building, among others.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 02:46 AM   #954
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If this is the future of skyscrapers, I might just as well jump out the window.
Thom Mayne is a criminal and a terrorist, he should be tried in an Iraqi court.


The redesigns of the tower have made it more acceptable, but it will remain to be the ugly duckling of them all.
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Old June 19th, 2009, 08:21 AM   #955
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Well, nothing like a hideous building to make the good ones look better, right? You see, good architecture needs horrible architecture!

(but I don't think Tour Phare is horrible, personally. Interesting and grotesque, though!)
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Old June 20th, 2009, 01:58 PM   #956
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Yup I like it now.
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 02:52 AM   #957
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Ugly, horrible.

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Old June 23rd, 2009, 03:43 AM   #958
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Interesting building. even if it is ugly, there is nothing wrong with building it. The Eiffel tower was considered an eye sore when it was first built, and it was supposed to be temporary. Well it is still there, and has become an icon of Paris.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:02 AM   #959
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Precisely. Its uniqueness will make it quite iconic, regardless of peoples' opinions of it. They will all look at it and forever associate it with 21st century Paris.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 07:27 AM   #960
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many people have been saying this is not the building for paris. i disagree. paris has seen many, very different buildings throughout its history, and nearly all have pissed off the french. why should this one be any different? the french hated the eiffel tower when it was built and insisted that it be torn down. they hated the pompidou, im pei's triangle, tour montparnasse (that one i can see). it seems paris is the perfect city to put in something that is different, despite the reluctance of the french and others to accept it as iconic. plus, it will have a truly amazing viewpoint of paris from the top. i hope the tour phare is built because i think it will be something the french and the world will come to love, even if it takes several decades.

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