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Old November 27th, 2006, 09:45 PM   #81
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It does not look like it's 300m tall !? Or do the renders fail to show the actual height?
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Old November 27th, 2006, 09:48 PM   #82
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I'd like to see more comments! Not only comments from French and English forumers...
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Old November 27th, 2006, 09:50 PM   #83
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It does not look like it's 300m tall !? Or do the renders fail to show the actual height?
It clearly look like 300m high on this render:

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It's nearly 3 times the height of the Grande-Arche which is 110m high...
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Old November 27th, 2006, 09:57 PM   #84
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La Défense is by far the largest concentration of towers above 100 meters in Europe. As such, anything in La Défense looks less tall than if it would be located anywhere else in Europe.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 10:03 PM   #85
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Oh my God, what the hell is that?
Delusions of grandeur
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Old November 27th, 2006, 10:37 PM   #86
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The crown of the Shard, the bump of Beetham and the base of Bishopsgate.

Well done Paris, you've managed to combine the best of London's proposals into one tower. Unfortunately, the end result isn't that great.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 10:54 PM   #87
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The crown of the Shard, the bump of Beetham and the base of Bishopsgate.

Well done Paris, you've managed to combine the best of London's proposals into one tower. Unfortunately, the end result isn't that great.
I really fail to see any logic in that kind of message.

There's no bump in that tower, there's a curb... the whole tower is in curb. That design looks really like no proposal I've seen from London ! I do understand people who reject it because it's too organic, but I really have an issue with people considering this as any kind of plagiarism...

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Old November 27th, 2006, 10:58 PM   #88
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The crown of the Shard, the bump of Beetham and the base of Bishopsgate.

Well done Paris, you've managed to combine the best of London's proposals into one tower. Unfortunately, the end result isn't that great.

maybe because that 'best of london's proposals' isn't that great either.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 11:06 PM   #89
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I love this tower, Morphosis do great job and i love the way they go. The tower will be a real eco-tower with sel producing energy.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 11:10 PM   #90
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maybe because that 'best of london's proposals' isn't that great either.
Either? So you are now saying this isn't great?

Believe me if Londons best proposals were actually combined the world would'nt know what had hit it. I don't think this bears resembelance to anything in the English capital really, as has been saidit is unique. But being unique doesn't always mean something is great.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 11:11 PM   #91
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Paris used to be my favourite city in the world.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 11:26 PM   #92
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what do i think ? i like it, but then i love organic architecture.

Tour Signal is a 130,000 square metre project designed by Morphis Architects is a flowing organic form that has glass cladding seamlessly placed over the complex lattice-work of cross-bracing that forms the main structure.
The polyp shaped appearance rises almost three hundred metres terminating in the skeletal structure emerging from the top like hairs reaching out to suck some prey into.
Interestingly, it is massed so that when viewed looking towards the neighbouring Grande Arche that it will sit alongside, the broadest point of the lower part of the tower coincides with the roofline of the arch whilst the figure of the building from this angle presents a strong wedge type profile that contradicts the amorphous outline from other directions.
This key location has been chosen because of the considered importance of the project by the developers who want it right next to the most famous show-piece bit of architecture that La Defence currently has.
The bottom of the structure lacks the simplicity of the top part with the tower appearing to stand on two legs. This skirt flairs out in a manner similar to the Bishopsgate Tower in London cleanly exposing the underside of one whilst the other proceeds as a smooth continuation of the form to the podium building.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 11:38 PM   #93
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what do i think ? i like it, but then i love organic architecture.

Tour Signal is a 130,000 square metre project designed by Morphis Architects is a flowing organic form that has glass cladding seamlessly placed over the complex lattice-work of cross-bracing that forms the main structure.
The polyp shaped appearance rises almost three hundred metres terminating in the skeletal structure emerging from the top like hairs reaching out to suck some prey into.
Interestingly, it is massed so that when viewed looking towards the neighbouring Grande Arche that it will sit alongside, the broadest point of the lower part of the tower coincides with the roofline of the arch whilst the figure of the building from this angle presents a strong wedge type profile that contradicts the amorphous outline from other directions.
This key location has been chosen because of the considered importance of the project by the developers who want it right next to the most famous show-piece bit of architecture that La Defence currently has.
The bottom of the structure lacks the simplicity of the top part with the tower appearing to stand on two legs. This skirt flairs out in a manner similar to the Bishopsgate Tower in London cleanly exposing the underside of one whilst the other proceeds as a smooth continuation of the form to the podium building.
At last an interesting comment from someone who actualy had a REAL look at the renders and understood the logic behind the shape before giving his judgement...
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Old November 27th, 2006, 11:39 PM   #94
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I really fail to see any logic in that kind of message.

That design looks really like no proposal I've seen from London ! I do understand people who reject it because it's too organic, but I really have an issue with people considering this as any kind of plagiarism...
You have to admit, the base is a very similar concept to the Bishopsgate Tower.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images...Tower_pic2.jpg
http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscr...tower/base.jpg

http://dev2.batiactu.com/cap_diapo/i...7_170114_5.jpg
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Old November 27th, 2006, 11:40 PM   #95
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It's not my type, but this glass looks like in Warsaw - Golden Terraces copule
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Old November 27th, 2006, 11:47 PM   #96
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Seriously... Nope...

The tour Signal will have a 40m high sky-lobby on the 9th floor of the tower, accessible with 2 giant escalators...

Bishop is slightly lifting her skirt...

There's a huge difference of scale between them, IMHO...
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Old November 27th, 2006, 11:47 PM   #97
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to be an iconic building at the moment it seems that you have to try and do something special. but then again some of the most simplist scrapers have been the best.

it's very odd but hardly something that in the future will be compared to the likes of the Eiffel tower. Its not that all inspirational as it does have similar features from London buildings but theirs has more eligance to them and look fantastic in the skyline.

This building does not fit in with paris. the Grande-Arch and the arch de triumph and eiffel tower are symetrical in the sight line but this just draws attention to itself and i'm not sure if in a good or bad way, i think more renders are needed to get the full effect this tower has.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 11:50 PM   #98
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well i do write for this site and a few magazines and newspapers also, im an admin.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=792
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Old November 28th, 2006, 12:04 AM   #99
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very original.. good news for paris
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Old November 28th, 2006, 12:06 AM   #100
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hmm

well ....i think ....this is onee hell of a building from the french .....cmon guyss.......this building is soo unique .......i guess ....londoners are gettin a bit problem from this master piece...but...truly Paris has always given somethin exciting to see,and something different ....like this ....being an ASIAN i have no link to any of the countries,butt ......i dont see london lookin that gr8 ,.....in comparison to paris comin future for skyscrapers.....La defence is a one view skyline...wheras for london`s skyline,start makin a 360degree spin ....naaa.....buttttttttt london`s in the race for [email protected]@
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