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Old June 15th, 2011, 06:44 PM   #1081
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"Work of the architect Xavier Bohl"

= dreadful mistake by AFP journalist...The architect IS Morphosis (Tom Mayne).
And what about the height is it correct?
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Old June 16th, 2011, 03:53 AM   #1082
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I think this tower its a bit too difficult to digest at first , but the more i see it , the more i like it , its modern , its art-ish , its high , its unique , i mean they cant have gone wrong with this , so from the shock of the first time i saw it i can say now after a long while ; I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT
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Old June 16th, 2011, 04:05 AM   #1083
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the design looks unfinished. it would look nice it it had a spire instead of being cut off like that =/
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Old June 16th, 2011, 09:45 AM   #1084
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With all due respect, but then it would look like some stupid stalactite

This tower is in fact very thoughtfully designed. It is "complete", it has proportions, elegance, innovation with a good taste. It is not like most of the present-day so called "innovative" projects that just tries too much being original, but often forget about proportions and balance and turning out cheap and tacky.
As it has been said many times tour phare is one of these designs you don't like at first, and you love after you "discover" it. And if you don't go through that path you just stay hating it. But this is always like that with the brave ideas you either love them or hate, but you just can't be neutral about them.

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Old June 16th, 2011, 10:26 AM   #1085
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Should the top of the Tour Phare be redesigned or is it fine now?
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Old June 16th, 2011, 10:51 AM   #1086
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Old June 18th, 2011, 05:51 PM   #1087
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It lacks elegance, but I admire it's ambition... The interior shots are like an impossible drawing come to life, but I can't help feeling the whole project is a bit arrogant.

Architecture in spite of rather than despite it's surroundings.
Well, stand at its feet in 4 years time dude...I doubt that you'll have the same speech...

Regarding the top of Phare, bear in mind guys that it's an organic tower.

I'm fairly sure that those criticizing Phare right now will be the first ones to gaze at it once built. You guys are gonna warm to like it as it starts taking shape...you'll see...

PS: @patrykus, the accurate height is 296m

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Rather than an isolated and autonomous tower, the building is a hybrid structure. The 300-meter tower straddles the site to meet the ground as a tripod. It comprises one splayed structural leg, two occupiable legs (the Trapezium, to the west, and the East Building), as well as a pavilion that engages the surrounding context and transforms the public space of the plaza. The two occupiable legs frame a 24-meter-wide by-28-meter-tall void in the tower’s base, creating a monumental urban gateway, which maintains view corridors toward the CNIT and toward Courbevoie and allows pedestrian traffic to flow directly underneath the building.

As it rises from its tripod base, the tower’s asymmetric profile swells slightly to accommodate the soaring Grand Hall, then becomes more slender in response to wind load, and finally tapers off to a thicket of wind turbines, antennas and hair-like structures on the roof. The tower appears to shift continually, distinct from different vantage points—not a single image but a dynamic structure that responds to its site, environment, and performance requirements. At its base, the building’s skin opens, exposing a 250-foot-high Grand Hall. The Grand Hall becomes the center for all vertical transportation. From the Hall’s security checkpoint, people transition to double-deck banks of express elevators serving the office tower. On the 66th floor, a sky restaurant and a panoramic terrace, offering spectacular 270-degree views, are open to the public. Overall, the project comprises 146 988m2 or 1 582 166 ft2 of net surface area and 164 185 m2 or 1 767 273 ft2 of gross surface area.

Technologies integrated into the Phare Tower harness the wind for the production of energy and selectively minimize solar gain while maximizing glare-free daylight. The tower is crowned with a cluster of antennas and a wind farm of turbines that harvest energy—a metaphorical garden in the sky. Both the form and the orientation of the building respond to the path of the sun. The planar, clear-glazed north façade maximizes interior exposure to year-round natural daylight. A curvilinear second skin of diagonal stainless steel mesh panels wraps the tower’s continuous south, east, and west glazed façades to minimize heat gain and glare and maximize energy efficiency.


----> http://morphopedia.com/projects/phare-tower
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Old June 18th, 2011, 06:34 PM   #1088
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It would be nice to have it in the supertall section, but well, at least visually it won't make any difference..
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Old June 19th, 2011, 12:44 AM   #1089
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Not the highest !!!! HERMITAGE 323M (337M) VS PHARE 296M
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Old June 19th, 2011, 10:21 PM   #1090
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we'll see all the haters in 2016 taking pics of this jewel when having a week end in paris
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Old June 21st, 2011, 02:59 PM   #1091
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Exactly. I would just like to add my name to the list of supporters of this tower. I really hope it gets built - more so than Hermitage
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Old June 24th, 2011, 02:04 AM   #1092
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It will get built Talisker! The financing has been secured a long time ago, the planning permission has been granted, The Epadesa did approve it lately etc...we now have to wait for 2012 to come...May I remind you that works are to start early 2012, for 4 years...
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Old June 24th, 2011, 02:13 AM   #1093
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Exactly. I would just like to add my name to the list of supporters of this tower. I really hope it gets built - more so than Hermitage
Where is that list? I want to add my name ASAP!

I believe it is the most interesting project around, no only in Europe.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 11:46 AM   #1094
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That's a daring project when it comes to the design.

It's hard to be original today, look at Europe's leading project! The Shard, Hermitage Plaza, Federation Towers... they all use rather conventional design (with some original features) but this one just take everything casual aside and might be something completely new.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 05:34 PM   #1095
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High resolution rendering of Tour Phare:


Copyright : CEVM, Setec, Dr., SFTRF, Paul Andreu, Elisabeth Devulder, Marc Barani, Lacoudre Architectes/Sezz, Anthony Béchu-Tom Sheehan, Franck Terlin | Source: Pythagore
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Old June 25th, 2011, 10:37 PM   #1096
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What a presence...PHARE is part of those towers which won't make people indifferent because it really is impressive. 2012 (& 2013 even more), will be a fantastic year for La Défense where many projects (towers among others) will be growing like mushrooms*...

* to date, there are already 2 towers whose construction has started, & a 3rd one will start from september after the demolition of an old building (currently in progress)...
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Old June 26th, 2011, 02:47 AM   #1097
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That's a daring project when it comes to the design.

It's hard to be original today, look at Europe's leading project! The Shard, Hermitage Plaza, Federation Towers... they all use rather conventional design (with some original features) but this one just take everything casual aside and might be something completely new.
You forgot to mention Bishopsgate Tower,City Life in Milan and the new ECB Hq in Frankfurt.All these three are close(but not in a tie) to Tour Phare when we talk about avant-garde design,concept and construction methods.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 01:32 PM   #1098
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You forgot to mention Bishopsgate Tower,City Life in Milan and the new ECB Hq in Frankfurt.All these three are close(but not in a tie) to Tour Phare when we talk about avant-garde design,concept and construction methods.
I would disagree on the design. Phare is really in a league of its own.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 01:39 PM   #1099
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I agree with matthieu!

Even i think the best conventionnal design imo is Pinnacle in london.

But phare is a "bio design" benchmark.

Nothing is close to this projetc in europe! it is the most sci-fi design right now!

I love its position in la defense-> right to rer, metro exit and near CNIT!

then you have no long way to see & shot it

It will be the" phare" of france during the Euro 2016 competition
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Old June 26th, 2011, 02:25 PM   #1100
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I really REALLY like the top in that last render. Like its desolving in a gentle breeze or something...
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