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Old June 26th, 2011, 03:32 PM   #1101
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By the by, even though I posted the rendering, I really don't like Tour Phare.

Its proportions look unshaped, the craggy concrete base doesn't fit the tower and is as unurban as possible - and the "shaggy hair" on top looks nothing but outstandingly ridiculous. Just my notion.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 06:19 PM   #1102
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It's very subjective indeed...but that's your opinion, we respect everybody's, so be it then. As long as this project involves controversy, we're happy about it . But once again, wait 'till it's built, I'm fairly sure that your speech will be slightly different when you stand at Phare's feet...
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Old June 28th, 2011, 06:45 PM   #1103
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It's very subjective indeed...but that's your opinion, we respect everybody's, so be it then. As long as this project involves controversy, we're happy about it . But once again, wait 'till it's built, I'm fairly sure that your speech will be slightly different when you stand at Phare's feet...
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Old June 28th, 2011, 10:48 PM   #1104
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When going to Paris, I definitely don't waste time in La Defense, there are better things to do for me.
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Old June 29th, 2011, 12:27 AM   #1105
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& you call yourself an architecture fan...?
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Old June 29th, 2011, 01:02 AM   #1106
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Very special and unique design , but really not my taste
There are better buildings in Paris
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Old June 29th, 2011, 11:10 AM   #1107
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Jex, where did I call myself a modernist architecture fan? I'm all into classic/historical architecture, which Paris is a treasury of. There are some modern buildings and projects I like, but Tour Phare doesn't belong to those. While Tour D2 does, for instance.
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Old June 29th, 2011, 01:26 PM   #1108
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I was not refering to Tour Phare in particular as there are dozens of different skyscrapers/highrises in La Défense. Carpe Diem/Majunga's constructions have already started & D2's will start from october 2011, as a architecture lover, you won't "waste your time" in La Défense...

ps: now regarding Phare, I really think that skepticals will warm to like it as its erection takes shape...this thread is gonna 'explode' throughout its construction, that's for sure...
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Old June 29th, 2011, 01:39 PM   #1109
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Are there other render then that last 1? i only saw that 1.
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Old June 29th, 2011, 02:52 PM   #1110
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ps: now regarding Phare, I really think that skepticals will warm to like it as its erection takes shape...
"Erection" is the keyword here. It looks like just another phallus out of shape, in its moment of atony. It sure will be one expensive project, get good materials and everything of high quality and so on. But that doesn't make the design any more appealing imho.
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Old June 29th, 2011, 04:00 PM   #1111
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I would describe Phare as one of those girls that is not particularly genuine beautiful
but nevertheless so interresting that you can't keep your eyes off of her
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Old June 29th, 2011, 04:17 PM   #1112
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But you wouldn't want to get laid by her. Might be heavy.
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Old June 29th, 2011, 04:30 PM   #1113
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So am I right in thinking the agreement with EPADESA means they cannot start until 2012? Are the developers able to do anything in the mean time such as site clearance etc.?
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Old June 29th, 2011, 04:49 PM   #1114
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"Erection" is the keyword here. It looks like just another phallus out of shape, in its moment of atony. It sure will be one expensive project, get good materials and everything of high quality and so on. But that doesn't make the design any more appealing imho.
I chose "erection" not to say "construction" again, I hate repetitions...

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I suppose so mate. I'm fairly sure they will start doing some preliminary works from early 2012, one of which will consist of removing a huge sculpture also knows as the Pouce de César located between the CNIT & the Grande Arche. However, given that it will be a new construction, we won't waste months & months demolishing another building and so on, we will get into the thick of things pretty quickly. Foundations might take quite some time though as there is a big transportation network underneath (subway)...will be a bit of a challenge (euphemism) in terms of piling and excavation work...yummy!


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Old June 30th, 2011, 10:17 AM   #1115
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But you wouldn't want to get laid by her. Might be heavy.
And since when is that the rule of measure on someone's right to exist
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Old June 30th, 2011, 10:20 PM   #1116
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Interesting news today coming from our comrade SebDoc12 (french speaking forum):

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bonjour à tous habitant du faubourg je suis avec impatiente les travaux de cette tour, le fait que j'habite en dernier étage conditionne certainemement mon impatiente de voir cette tour sortir de terre, enfin bref je suis donc le premier à vous annoncer qu'un emplacement dedié de 50 m2 environ en plein milieu du cnit est en travaux afin d'y montrer la tour phare[...]
il est ecrit sur les panneaux "Bientôt ici, la tour Phare se dévoile , Phare l'exposition"
To sum up, SEBDOC12 announces that a specific place (50 m2)dedicated to PHARE is being set up right in the centre of the CNIT (building visible in the right hand side of the above photo), to showcase the tower to the public.
There's a sign saying: 'Soon right here, Phare Tower is unfolding, Phare the exhibition'.


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Old June 30th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #1117
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yuk, this is an abortion
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 06:54 PM   #1118
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Bloody love this skyscraper. Much better than Hermitage. They're not bad (and tall) but this is defo my favourite Paris 'scraper. Only one question though; what's going on on the other side of the main La Defense axis to balance the skyline a bit?
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 03:46 PM   #1119
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Welcome to France...

Yesterday, a meeting took place in LD to take stock of the situation of the Plan de Renouveau de La Défense.

To date, there are still 2 legal remedies which could, in the worst scenario, delay the project up to 5 years (as a reminder, works are due to start early 2012...)There are 3 options for Unibail-Rodamco, the first one is to find an agreement with the opponents; the second, to await the Court's judgments (which might take several years); or the last one, to take the risk of launching works not taking into accounts those remedies. The latter is very unlikely to be chosen by Unibail though...indeed, in case of an unfavourable judgment, they would be forced to demolish what they built.

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Philippe Chaix, a précisé que le projet Phare était toujours confronté à des recours contentieux[...]Unibail-Rodamco, bute maintenant sur deux recours contentieux. Unibail-Rodamco à trois possibilités : Trouver un accord avec les contestataires, attendre les jugements -ce qui pourrait prendre de nombreuses années- ou alors, un pari beaucoup plus risqué de les ignorer et de lancer les travaux. Cette dernière solution qui n'a très peu de chances d'être privilégiée par la foncière, entrainerait en cas, de jugement défavorable pour Unibail-Rodamco, l'obligation de détruire ce qu'il a construit.
Well, to be continued...

http://www.defense-92.com/lesnewsdeladefense.html
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Old July 6th, 2011, 04:03 AM   #1120
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What on earth is that.
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