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Old July 6th, 2011, 11:21 AM   #1121
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I chose "erection" not to say "construction" again, I hate repetitions...



I suppose so mate. I'm fairly sure they will start doing some preliminary works from early 2012, one of which will consist of removing a huge sculpture also knows as the Pouce de César located between the CNIT & the Grande Arche. However, given that it will be a new construction, we won't waste months & months demolishing another building and so on, we will get into the thick of things pretty quickly. Foundations might take quite some time though as there is a big transportation network underneath (subway)...will be a bit of a challenge (euphemism) in terms of piling and excavation work...yummy!


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so what are they going to do with the thumb? i like that sculpture.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 04:15 PM   #1122
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I like it as well I am using a computer, but no worries, the Pouce de César will simply be moved to another location in La Défense.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 06:22 PM   #1123
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That was my first thought, the London 2012 mascot - they have similar curves!

I like the crown to this tower though, it makes me imagine fire!
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Old July 31st, 2011, 06:40 PM   #1124
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I'd be really interested in knowing what your favourite project would have been regarding the 'Tour Phare' contest. I think that you guys have never seen the 9 losing projects, so here they are:

FOSTER

FUKSAS

FERRIER

GAUTRAND

KOOLHAAS-OMA

MICHELIN

NOUVEL

PERRAULT

DE MEURON

Full sizes mock-ups ---> http://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes.html

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WINNING PROJECT


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That's very subjective indeed but I really think that the most original/innovative project/tower was actually chosen, so as far as I'm concerned, no regret whatsover...

PS: all pics taken by SPOUDZZI
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Old July 31st, 2011, 06:49 PM   #1125
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It was discussed a while ago in the French forum and Ferrier's came up first.

If you ask me my opinion I think it's Gautrand's or Morphosis'. Foster's may seem cooler but at the end of the day it's just a cheap crossover between the Commerzbank and Repsol.
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Old July 31st, 2011, 06:56 PM   #1126
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I like the FUKSAS design but since it feels close to the Morphsis one, the final selection is just full of win for me.
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Old July 31st, 2011, 07:36 PM   #1127
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I agree with you Desertpunk, if Morphosis hadn't won, I would have gone for FUKSAS too.

Otherwise, I'm usually a big Foster fan, but his Phare project was very disappointing imo. Regarding Gautrand's Matthieu, well it's interesting indeed but overall, its shape is way too common (especially at the top), same statement for Ferrier's...Regarding Koolhaas's, it's damn fugly...'affreux affreux affreux'
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Old July 31st, 2011, 07:47 PM   #1128
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i like the winner, among the others i think Gautrand or De Meuron
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Old July 31st, 2011, 07:52 PM   #1129
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One thing is sure, the project of Nouvel was ugly like often...
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Old September 1st, 2011, 08:19 PM   #1130
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Old September 2nd, 2011, 02:21 PM   #1131
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I don't like the winning project at all. Foster is the best of all in my opinion, but it doesn't impress me that much too ... :/

Paris, you deserved a better one! :S
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Old September 2nd, 2011, 02:38 PM   #1132
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I don't like the winning project at all. Foster is the best of all in my opinion
i agree
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Old September 2nd, 2011, 04:20 PM   #1133
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I don't. I think this tower is superb. I just hope the cladding isn't value engineered prior to construction to cut costs.
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Old September 2nd, 2011, 04:24 PM   #1134
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I always said that this is one of the most terrible buildings ever designed. But really, the other contestants are not much better. The ones by Koolhaas-Oma and Nouvel are particularly terrible.
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Old September 2nd, 2011, 04:39 PM   #1135
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What are you guys talking about? This tower is gorgeous, they even showed an exhibit with the material that will be used for the cladding and it looks awesome
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Old September 2nd, 2011, 04:49 PM   #1136
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What are we guys talking about? The tower looks like a cross between The Blob and an aubergine, everyone can see that.
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Old September 2nd, 2011, 05:04 PM   #1137
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This is something new, never done before. The shape is very complex and may give suprising results depending on the angles we'd be looking at it. I say let's build it.If it's too ugly it'll be hidden by Hermitage Plaza from a distance anyway and it can't be dispointing from a close distance.
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Old September 2nd, 2011, 07:09 PM   #1138
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really really weird... but hopefully it will look good! ^_^
two thumbs up for Paris, anyway
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 12:06 AM   #1139
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Once again, those criticizing it firmly will probably be the first ones to wonder at it once it's delivered, I'm getting 5 on it... I now just hope (like Matthieu said) that there won't be any cutting costs regarding the cladding.

@Droneriot, Phare is an 'organic' tower, one of a kind, far from those hundreds of common looking towers all over the world, so obviously its shape is 'unusual', now if you don't like it for the time being, fair enough, but you're very likely to change your mind when you see it 'in the flesh'...
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 12:52 AM   #1140
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This is a really great, inspired design. The organic shape plus the orientation of the CW and that sort of deconstruction of the volume on the top makes it trully unique.
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