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Old November 28th, 2006, 06:53 PM   #141
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As for now, this is how this extremely original structure is appreciated:
- Most French forumers like it
- 6 British forumers like it and 12 hate it
- 18 non British or French forumers like it and 5 hate it
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:02 PM   #142
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Well, the render is not Cyril's work, but one found in the paper "Le Parisien"...
Ok, but Le Parisien doesn't know the real height, same as Cyril doesn't know, same as I don't know. Maybe we'll have to wait for the building permit issued by the local prefecture to know the exact height. Anyone knows when this building permit (permis de construire) will be issued?
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:03 PM   #143
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As for now, this is how this extremely original structure is appreciated:
- Most French forumers like it
- 6 British forumers like it and 12 hate it
- 18 non British or French forumers like it and 5 hate it
Those british...

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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:03 PM   #144
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The design is very interesting and really a one of a kind. I think people have to see it for themselves before passing judgement.
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:15 PM   #145
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Beautiful tower for a top city

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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:19 PM   #146
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brilliant!!. go Paris!
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:24 PM   #147
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I don't know why there must be always these stupid competitions between cities in these forums? And I don't know why it shouldn't fit to Paris? This building will be located in La Defense, a suburb not known for classic parisien architecture and actually far away from the classic city centre, which draws millions of tourists to the city. Actually I think from most streets apart of the Champs Elysee you wouldn't see this building.
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:29 PM   #148
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As for now, this is how this extremely original structure is appreciated:
- Most French forumers like it
- 6 British forumers like it and 12 hate it
- 18 non British or French forumers like it and 5 hate it
Make that 7 Brits.
An inspiring design - and a perfect antidote (not that one is necessary) for those ill-informed creatures who say "Paris is a museum".
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:33 PM   #149
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Make that 7 Brits.
An inspiring design - and a perfect antidote (not that one is necessary) for those ill-informed creatures who say "Paris is a museum".
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:38 PM   #150
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Here is an extra-large version of the main rendering. I only post the URL because the image is huge !
http://www.ladefense.fr/forum/epadag...tmorphosis.jpg (1366x3000 pixels)


And here is another version of the rendering from the bottom. I can post this one fully as it's not so big:

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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:40 PM   #151
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Why do you assume that every Brit who dislikes this tower automatically hates Paris as well?

I don't like this tower, but I happen to love Paris.
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:46 PM   #152
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Why do you assume that every Brit who dislikes this tower automatically hates Paris as well?

I don't like this tower, but I happen to love Paris.
Do you mean me?
I do not assume anything - simply noting how often the Paris/museum comment (yawn) pops up from folks this side of La Manche, when proposals like this point to something quite different.
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:46 PM   #153
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Why do you assume that every Brit who dislikes this tower automatically hates Paris as well?

I don't like this tower, but I happen to love Paris.
Why do you assume that I assume that every Brit who dislikes this tower automatically hates Paris as well?
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:48 PM   #154
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I don't like this tower, but I happen to love Paris.
Me too (well, I don't think the tower is that bad. I definately wouldn't say I hate it. I just don't think it's that great. It will certainly give a better pinnacle to La Defense than Generali will though)

I love Paris, I have been twice and I'm only 16. I hope to go again many times in the future. It's the biggest city I have ever been to, 2nd probably being Rome or Dusseldorf
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:50 PM   #155
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I do not like it at all or maybe is it the rendering. At this stage I believe Paris will be much better with a new design - what about the other proposals?
It would be worthwhile to compare them all.
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:53 PM   #156
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Why would a bit of rivalry between London and Paris hurt anyway? It tends to bring the best out of both cities. Remember if it wasn't for Napoleon's III visit to London where he admired the parks and neo-classical architecture, he may never have embarked on his Paris modernisation plan. And if it wasn't for Wren studying "modern" architecture and construction techniques in Paris, London may never have had St Pauls. As long as people are happy to take constructive criticism in a positive way, it should contribute to these forums.
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:55 PM   #157
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I think it's difficult to form an impression of the suitability for structures such as these unless one is a resident. I have heard similar remarks about 122 Leadenhall from non-Londoners, whereas I don't think I have heard one London voice raised against it. Similarly for this tower - the French seem to like it, so maybe there is a cultural and societal resonance that Brits don't necessarily see.
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:55 PM   #158
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I can count 62 floors from the lobby, which is said to be on the 9th floor, so 71 floors.
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:59 PM   #159
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do you know the other proposals Cyril. There was a contest isn't it?
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Old November 28th, 2006, 08:28 PM   #160
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Very interesting! And also beautiful. Right now I think it is a bit more interesting than it is beautiful. But certainly also beautiful! The escalators are also a good idea. And the tower will look great together with the Generali!!

On the negative, I think it is a little bit too fat (but that could be the renderings) and I haven't yet come to terms with the 'hair'. What is it for? Does anyone like - or understand - the 'hair'?

Also I want to say, that the rivalry between London and Paris rivalry is a good thing for all of Europe. Maybe sometimes somebody makes a stupid comment in the wrong place. But this is just a symptom of the healthy competition between the two greatest cities in (Western) Europe. I hope that competition continues forever! I love Paris and I love London, and I hope both keep evolving at a fast pace.
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