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Join Date: Jun 2007
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i predict this will not be good for the local pest control businesses
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10th February 2008
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Recession ‘won’t freeze out Altair’
by Bethan Dorsett 31/10/2008 DEVELOPERS have vowed that the controversial £150m Altair development will still go ahead – despite fears the economic crisis could put the scheme on ice. This week the North Wales-based David McLean group, one firm behind the bid for the huge Altrincham leisure complex, was placed in administration with 134 staff made redundant. Business consultancy Deloitte, which has been appointed administrator, says the firm had been struggling to combat the current crash in the property market. Now civic campaigners say they fear the news could threaten Altair’s future. But the other property firm behind the scheme, Nikal, insists it will go ahead as planned. Nick Payne, Nikal’s managing director, said: "We are saddened by the receivership of David McLean. Over the last five years we developed an excellent working relationship with them and some of the directors have become good personal friends. "Circumstances like this happen in the business world; therefore, from the outset of the relationship, strict and robust provisions are made which underpin and secure the future of the principal company in the event of a company shareholder going into receivership. "These measures mean that there will be no effect on Altair. "Nikal has been the lead developer and will progress the scheme as normal." Work is expected to begin on the development – which will include an ice rink, shops and flats – in spring or summer 2009. It gained planning permission earlier this year despite some residents’ objections on the grounds it would generate too much noise and overshadow their properties. One opponent was Sarah Walmsley of pressure group Against Altair. She told Metro News that in her opinion the credit crunch was bound to affect Altair. She said: "Major developments across the country are being put on ice or being left half finished. "Of course, it is terrible news when companies go into administration because people lose their jobs. "If Altair is called off then it is something to be welcomed, though if the plans continue we will still face this blot on the landscape overlooking our properties." Judie Collins, vice-chairwoman of Altrincham and Bowdon Civic Society – which was consulted on the plans – is also concerned about the scheme’s future. She said: "The last time recession happened, in the Eighties, major companies went under and projects were left half finished. This scheme has been going on for so long now but we are just going to have to wait and see what happens." But Altrincham Town Centre Partnership, which comprises businesses, the council and other agencies, is confident the building work will go ahead. Regeneration manager Peter Noble said: "Nikal is the leading partner in this development. "David McLean was responsible for the residential properties – the development is mostly retail. "I have spoken to Nick Payne from Nikal, who assures me that he’s feeling safe." |
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Taikun
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looks like there will still be fleas the size of rats and rats the size of cats then.
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In the Re-education Gulag
Join Date: Aug 2006
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What?
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Taikun
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ask bammy
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: M4CCLESFIELD
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Good news
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Indeed.. Alty needs this.. went shopping their last sat.. the town centre is dead... for every shop there's a boarded up one.
Alty was in decline well before the credit crunch due to the trafford centre, manc city centre via tram. This can only be good for the town! |
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a replacement hospital would be a brilliant idea... I really hope Nick can swing this one
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TC report with a bit of info on the hospital proposals, inc the Altair option:
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Keep Changing.
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Altair related?
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How the hell has Neil Morris got the money to build a new ice rink.
Vince? Any ideas? |
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Keep Changing.
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Theres this one as well:
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Makin all KINDS of gains!
Join Date: Dec 2008
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I don't think it's decided until early next year looking at that above council report, maybe just pre-empting the decision, puts a bit of weight behind the tender bid? that new app looks very lightweight though 'seeking approval of access with all other matters reserved'.
Assuming the applications are comparable & the figures quoted in the app descriptions are correct, heres some figures for comparison: OUTLINE APPROVED / NEW APP Non-Food Retail + Cafes/Bars/Restaurants - 12,576sqm(10,536sqm + 2,040sqm) / 5,380sqm(total) Food Retail - 1,583sqm / 1,380sqm Offices - 8,471sqm / 8,970sqm Residential - 150 / 31 apartments Hotel - 135 / 125 beds Gym/Health Club - 1,045sqm / 370sqm Climbing Wall - 513sqm / 310sqm Ice Rink - 10,076sqm / 6,150sqm Hospital/Health Care Facility - NA / 5,510sqm (Maximum development size since outline) |
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10th February 2008
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Crains.
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10th February 2008
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Place North West.
Nikal confirms hospital plans for Altair 11 Dec 2009, 08:44 HOW Planning has submitted a revised planning application for the Altair development in Altrincham town centre on behalf of Exige Developments, part of the Nikal group. ![]() The plans contain the new Altrincham General Hospital and healthcare centre for Trafford NHS Trust, a major prelet deal which Nikal has been pursuing for the best part of a year. HOW Planning, led by Gary Halman, secured approval for the major mixed-use retail-led development in August 2008. In March 2009, Nikal, owned by paper tycoon Alan Murphy, bought out the shares of joint venture partner David McLean following the developer's collapse. The revised plans incorporate all the land uses approved by the existing consent, but with a reduction in scale and mass to respond to feedback from the local community. Jon Suckley at HOW Planning said: "This scheme has been specifically designed to complement the existing town centre and the revised planning application will further enhance this objective. The feedback from local residents has been taken on board and the revisions to the new application not only reflect this, but will also provide a major community benefit with the proposals for a new hospital and healthcare facility." The six-acre development was designed by Ian Simpson Architects and will include 31 homes, 90,000 sq ft of offices, 70,000 sq ft of retail, both food and non-food, and a 125-bed hotel. The original plan was for 160,000 sq ft of retail and 50,000 sq ft of offices. The popular ice rink, home to Manchester Phoenix ice hockey team, will be redeveloped from its temporary home, provided several years ago by Nikal, into a permanent facility. Work is due to start on the new development in late 2010 with a three to five-year development programme. |
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10th February 2008
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Full revised planning application below renders. See design and access statement PDF's for further renders and info.
Application Number. 74390/O/2009 Site Address. Land at Oakfield Road/Moss Lane, Altrincham Application Type. Outline Planning Permission Development TypeOther Business Proposal Outline planning application (seeking approval of access with all other matters reserved) for the demolition of existing buildings and erection of mixed use development comprising up to : - hospital/health care facility (Classes C2/D1 - 5510 sq.m); ice rink (Class D2 - 6150 sq.m); food retail (Class A1 - 1380 sq.m); non-food retail, restaurants and cafes, drinking establishments and hot food takeaways (Classes A1, A3, A4 and A5 - 5380 sq.m); residential (Class C3 - 31 apartments); offices (Class B1 - 8970 sq.m) management suite (Class B1 - 140 sq.m) hotel (Class C1 - 125 bedrooms); health club/gym (Class D2 - 370 sq.m); climbing wall (Class D2 - 310 sq.m); vehicle parking; associated plant and service areas; highway alterations and creation of new areas of public realm ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() http://planning.trafford.gov.uk/Nort...DAURI=PLANNING |
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