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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:49 AM   #21
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Okay, now I see where the renderings were, there was a second article interviewing the developer.

http://www.lvbusinesspress.com/artic...q_11096974.txt

I updated the first post.

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As conceived by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill and Steelman Design Group, the Las Vegas Tower's casino floor, commercial spaces and parking garage would cover almost the entirety of the former Wet 'n Wild site. Above it would rise an 1,888-foot skyscraper. At present, the tallest hotel tower on the Strip is Wynn Las Vegas, at 600 feet. The Venetian's Palazzo tower, when finished, will reach 642 feet.
(So that must be the reason Adrian Smith was in town recently. They interviewed him here when he announced his departure from SOM.)

Interview with Christopher Milam:

The sky is no limit to Milam
Air Force, FAA objections won't fell tower project, developer says

BY DAVID MCKEE

Austin-based developer Christopher Milam is thinking big. Texas-sized big, as in erecting the tallest building in the U.S. on the former site of the Wet 'n Wild aquatic park. Virtually the entire 27-acre parcel would be consumed by the casino "podium," as envisioned by Steelman Design Group, from which will arise a 142-story spire. Modeled on Skidmore Owings & Merrill's Burj Dubai skyscraper, this obelisk will top out at 1,888 feet ... a height that is presently sticking in the craws of Nellis Air Force Base and the Federal Aviation Administration.

Despite the opposition arrayed against him, not to mention the inherent challenge of building a $4.8 billion, 5,000-unit, condo-hotel resort, Milam seems serene -- sufficiently so to balance playing with his toddler while discussing a technical challenge that might faze even a character like Howard Roark of The Fountainhead.

Given the amount of construction tied up by Project CityCenter, how long will it be before you can line up a substantial quantity of materials and labor?


That's evolved a lot in the last six months. Projects which were going to get done didn't get done. Availability of labor and materials, while still tight, it's not a constricting issue the way people thought it was going to be. Plus the cost of commodities is falling. We're not, in the last six to nine months, seeing anything like the increases in prices -- steel, cement, glass -- that we were in the past. Which would make a lot of sense, because the heat is out of the property markets now and construction is down considerably.

What's the design concept?

It basically has three legs and it happens to be, from a structural-engineering perspective, the most efficient tall-building form. As long as you maintain a proper aspect ratio with those three legs, you can basically go as tall as you want. Burj Dubai is much taller than this building but this is considerably larger in mass.

Why did you gravitate to that particular design?

We wanted to do a tall building, which meant we had to be north of the Strip, far enough away from McCarran. Everything in Las Vegas has its 'set' and, in the past, that has been a theme: You're in Paris or Venice or Greece. We wanted to do real architecture, what we call a 'high modern,' important architectural statement. In a very basic business sense, I guess you could say that the tallness of the building is our thing. It's our hook, if you will. It's the next step beyond in the evolution of the Strip.

The underlying property is still titled to Archon. When is the sale going to close?

The option, we have until sometime in October of '07 to close. So sometime between now and then, when we are ready to start construction.

If you were to run into adversity as far as the design, would you not go through with the purchase?

No, it's a tremendous asset. There are always issues, no matter what you're doing. If you want to be successful at development, you spend the time, the effort and the money to work through the issues and come up with something that works for everyone.

As far as the height itself, Nellis AFB registers objections to the project as submitted. Also, the FAA says it's notified you of a "presumed hazard." Given those objections, how do you intend to move forward?

Those are two separate issues and we are working with both the FAA and Nellis, and have been for some months. With respect to Nellis, they have a general policy of opposing tall buildings, for obvious reasons, but it's an issue that can be resolved.

As far as the FAA is concerned, any building over 200 feet tall within a five-mile radius of McCarran is determined by regulation to be a hazard to air navigation. So every hotel on the Strip is a Part 77 obstruction, technically. That's why they issued the DNH. Everybody gets issued a DNH. We're in the middle of the process to determine if the building does present a hazard and -- if it does -- how to make it not. We have a consultant in Washington who's working directly with the FAA.

So you're taking it to the top?

No, we're actually working from the bottom up, which is the way you do it. But we haven't yet responded to the obstruction finding because we're doing our homework and then we'll respond formally to the FAA.

So is the 1,888-foot height non-negotiable?

We think that will ultimately be found to not be a hazard and that's where we wanted to be. The reason is that makes it the tallest building in the U.S. The next-tallest building is the Freedom Tower in New York, which was World Trade (Center), which is 1,776 (feet). They're locked into that number for obvious reasons. You don't build a building this tall and make it a little shorter than the one they just built. That's not a good approach to marketing, if you will.

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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:58 AM   #22
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^Indeed this thing is just plain massive. The Freedom Tower at uses an antenna and even the planned 2000ft Fordham Spire in Chicago also has antennas as part of its height.

Millennium Tower

This interestingly enough isn't the first supertall ever imagined in vegas. The infamous Millennium Tower was to be 2200ft tall. But that was pure fantasy.

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Old December 6th, 2006, 06:21 AM   #23
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Old December 6th, 2006, 08:34 AM   #24
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That does look good.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 09:10 PM   #25
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Vegas need such a great tower. so, Build it!!!
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:11 PM   #26
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^Indeed this thing is just plain massive. The Freedom Tower at uses an antenna and even the planned 2000ft Fordham Spire in Chicago also has antennas as part of its height.

Millennium Tower

This interestingly enough isn't the first supertall ever imagined in vegas. The infamous Millennium Tower was to be 2200ft tall. But that was pure fantasy.

Thats a revolting tower. Thank god they didn't build it.

As for this design I have just seen for the Milam Tower, I can say I hate it. It just does not seem to work. Shape is OK but the tower has nothing else to it.

Does Vegas really need this tower?
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:38 PM   #27
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the only bad thing about this scraper---if it does get approved and built---is it would have the Taipei 101 effect. They need to support this behemoth with surrounding 250-350m scrapers.
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Old December 7th, 2006, 12:20 AM   #28
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I don't think it would be that bad at all..especially for Las Vegas. (As long as they make sure it does not look too much like a certain device..)
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Old December 7th, 2006, 02:03 AM   #29
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the only bad thing about this scraper---if it does get approved and built---is it would have the Taipei 101 effect. They need to support this behemoth with surrounding 250-350m scrapers.
Thta would be a problem in a real city and vegas isn't a real city. People where saying a gold building looks ugly but in vegas it looks fine. Build this now its what vegas needs a building that defines it!!!
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Old December 7th, 2006, 04:25 AM   #30
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^ agreed.. vegas is an exception for everything i think that tower would look just fine and would give an iconic symbol for vegas
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Old December 7th, 2006, 04:31 AM   #31
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well, thore are good points about the fake city and such =)

I imagine the view from that tower is absolutely stellar.
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Old December 7th, 2006, 04:42 AM   #32
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^Indeed this thing is just plain massive. The Freedom Tower at uses an antenna and even the planned 2000ft Fordham Spire in Chicago also has antennas as part of its height.

Millennium Tower

This interestingly enough isn't the first supertall ever imagined in vegas. The infamous Millennium Tower was to be 2200ft tall. But that was pure fantasy.


Personally, I think this looks better than the current porposal.
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Old December 7th, 2006, 05:47 AM   #33
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Is this guy even aware of Chicago Spire? Doesn't seem to be. To state that it would not be a "good approach to marketing" to build it and have it be the second tallest, when there's a very good chance that at 1888 feet it would be the second tallest is quite amusing to me. It's not like Fordham Spire/Chicago Spire is something new and unknown.
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Old December 7th, 2006, 05:52 AM   #34
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maybe they're marketing it with the highest roof height, but since today that can't be the case too X_X
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Old December 7th, 2006, 04:48 PM   #35
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Yeah, I heard they are ditching the spire on the Chicago Spire and adding condos all the way to the top.

But Milam would only have to add a 120 foot spire and be instantly taller. But then I'm sure Chicago Spire would want to add a spire on top of their new roof height.

It's a new battle for the tallest (if only in the states).
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Old December 7th, 2006, 06:16 PM   #36
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this is great , this millenium one not the milam!
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Old December 8th, 2006, 01:14 AM   #37
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i hope they build this...
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Old December 9th, 2006, 12:18 PM   #38
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Old December 11th, 2006, 12:10 AM   #39
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another Great design by the world's greatest architecture firm in the world, was this building design by Adrian Smith ?
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