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Old December 11th, 2006, 10:52 PM   #61
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Umm, is it in the way of an airport???
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Old December 11th, 2006, 10:53 PM   #62
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I didn't know how barren Las Vegas was until now. I thought LV had more skyscrapers then that. But seeing the list of developments that will be coming to the city that will certainly change.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 10:59 PM   #63
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Umm, is it in the way of an airport???
In the way? No! Near an airport for the FAA to stop it? Yes. As it said in the article though they are talking with the FAA to come up with a settlement to allow them to keep the plans.

The same thing will probably happen just like here in Tampa. FAA will come up with some lame excuss to block anything higher than what the zoning has on that area. Although their excusses are pathetic and make no sense at all.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 03:48 AM   #64
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I predict a final height of 1475' after all the FAA BS is done. Hope for higher but can't see it happening. Anyone else want to place a bet?
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Old December 12th, 2006, 05:19 AM   #65
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I don't know about the FAA, but I'm more uncertain where the guy is going to get $5 billion to build this even if he does gets approved.

Granted, other projects in Vegas are similarly expensive, like the $7 billion CityCenter or the $4 billion Echelon Place but those are done by the big casino companies.

The demand, ok I could see that Vegas is one of the few places you can stick in 4,000 rooms, it's not unusual here at all. And going with the trend here, I can see Milam selling even half the units are condos to make up some of the costs.

The building itself is designed by none other then SOM, the designers of the Burk Dubai itself, so nothing to worry there.

Our county government here actually approves projects on the Vegas Strip. So even though they could override the FAA's recommendations for this tower, the county has always said they will always go with what the FAA says. Interestingly enough, they also run and own the airport. Conflict of interest?

FYI, the reason our 1,149ft Stratosphere tower was approved back when our tallest building was around 300ft or so was because it lies within the CITY of Las Vegas limits, not county. The City has been known to override some FAA recommendations and approved the Stratosphere against FAA wishes.

I'm no expert on FAA laws, but to clarify, obviously you can't override the FAA if your building lies within the actual height restricted area near the airport, ever. This Las Vegas Tower supposedly lies outside of that (just barely) and thus Milam thinks he has a chance to somehow get the FAA to concede a bit their fears that this building is a "severe flight hazard".

I assume the county would just approve whatever the FAA says after that.

In that large render of the tower, that large hotel building to the right of the tower is the proposed Fontainebleau Resort, originally planned to be 1070ft! Well it was raped by the FAA/County tag team and is now only 735ft.

As for it being knocked down, if what I take about Milam from the article is correct, he won't reduce his height, he'll just cancel the project entirely. End of story.

Maybe they'll go back to building that stupid proposed Fishing Themed (yes fishing) hotel with the London Eye wannabe Ferris Wheel on that site again.

ugh.....

Don't take the wrong way, great tower, just hate the FAA and County, *especially* them for not even caring about the significance a project like this will do to our economy at all and blindly following the FAA.

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Old December 12th, 2006, 05:35 AM   #66
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looks very good to me!
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Old December 12th, 2006, 06:04 AM   #67
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Notice that there have been two people who have dissed this tower and im pretty sure they are both from dubai. One says it's not impressive, the other says this belongs in dubai las vegas will be a ghost town.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 07:04 AM   #68
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I predict a final height of 1475' after all the FAA BS is done. Hope for higher but can't see it happening. Anyone else want to place a bet?
Okay, Vegas is a betting town, I'll go for broke and see your bet and raise it to the original 1,888 foot height. It will be approved and it will be built.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 03:49 AM   #69
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Forgot to say this but in one of the first articles on the tower, this is what caught my eye:

Milam is currently working with Washington, D.C.-based consulting firm JDA Aviation Technology Solutions to develop a response to the FAA's notice.

http://www.4jda.aero/

Anyone have anymore background info on this JDA and have they been successful before in other cities with the FAA?

Can't say it enough but this project is very serious and there is a chance of winning. He's getting some powerful people behind him.

One of the JDA guys (the president) seems to have been a former FAA Acting Administrator...

Another guy was a U.S. National Transportation Safety Board member.

http://www.4jda.aero/team.html

Go Milam!
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Old December 13th, 2006, 09:12 AM   #70
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Wow, good info!
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Old December 14th, 2006, 03:43 PM   #71
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Las Vegas needs such towers!
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Old December 14th, 2006, 05:58 PM   #72
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I donīt like it at all
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Old December 14th, 2006, 07:27 PM   #73
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All that Vegas needs to do is turn that huge lot on Sahara Ave into something.
That was the site of El Rancho, the very first resort on the Strip. It burned down in 1960 and the lot has been vacant ever since. Maybe people think it's jinxed or something. It's a super prime location. I think Howard Hughes Corporation still owns it.

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Old December 14th, 2006, 07:58 PM   #74
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Great building,one of my favorites
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Old December 15th, 2006, 05:35 AM   #75
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Isnt, the vacent lot the one where Ivana was going to go?
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Old December 15th, 2006, 06:16 AM   #76
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Isnt, the vacent lot the one where Ivana was going to go?
No, but close. Ivana was catawampus on the same intersection, where the Holy Cow casino was.

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Old December 15th, 2006, 06:58 AM   #77
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I'd never heard "catawampus" ever used. Is that equivalent to "Kitty Corner" or other variations of the term?

Anway, I can't believe I'd always believed that El Rancho was located just south of Wet N' Wild. What was on that site? This is really embarrassing for someone that's spent a lot of time in Vegas.
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neither have i and why are you up so late?
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Old December 15th, 2006, 07:40 AM   #79
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Yeah, that was another El Rancho. It was originally the Thunderbird down there south of Wet, and they changed their name to El Rancho in 1982 and then closed in 1992 and sat vacant for about ten years and it was finally cleared away after Turnberry bought it to make room for Fontainebleau.
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 11:45 PM   #80
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Looks incredible.. i saw today for the 1st time and automatically recalled Coruscant hahaha!

I would love it to be built.. my only doubt is if Las Vegas is the best place to build it.
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