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Old December 8th, 2006, 01:01 PM   #1
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Universal Studios Singapore Vs Hong Kong Disneyland in 2010

Genting group has won the bid for 2nd casino license in Singapore.

One of their partners is Universal Studios.

They are going to build Universal Studios at Sentosa, Singapore and plan to open in 2010.

News reported by HKDLR

there might be an indirect competition between Hong Kong Disneyland and Universal Studios Singapore in 2010.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 04:01 PM   #2
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Having more theme parks in the region is not necessarily going to stir up competition between cities. The biggest threat in East Asia is actually Thailand. which has a far bigger tourism draw and visitor base than Singapore.
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Old December 9th, 2006, 09:14 AM   #3
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Having more theme parks in the region is not necessarily going to stir up competition between cities. The biggest threat in East Asia is actually Thailand. which has a far bigger tourism draw and visitor base than Singapore.
Thailand is not the biggest threat.

Actually The future development of Zhuhai/Hengqin is one of the biggest threats towards Thailand and even Hong Kong.

Las vegas sands is going to build Asia's biggest resort at Hengqin.
Even Stanley Ho and Galaxy Entertainment have plans to pour in RMB 6 billlion and RMB 11 billion into Tourism Development projects at Hengqin.

People(including Hongkongers) go to Thailand because they see it is a resort destination.
There are numerous projects on the pipeline to develop Hengqin into a world class resort destination. With the close proximity of Hengqin/Zhuhai, and the massive scale of those projects, Hengqin is going to compete with Thailand head-to-head as a resort destination.
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Old December 9th, 2006, 12:22 PM   #4
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Thailand is not the biggest threat.

Actually The future development of Zhuhai/Hengqin is one of the biggest threats towards Thailand and even Hong Kong.

Las vegas sands is going to build Asia's biggest resort at Hengqin.
Even Stanley Ho and Galaxy Entertainment have plans to pour in RMB 6 billlion and RMB 11 billion into Tourism Development projects at Hengqin.

People(including Hongkongers) go to Thailand because they see it is a resort destination.
There are numerous projects on the pipeline to develop Hengqin into a world class resort destination. With the close proximity of Hengqin/Zhuhai, and the massive scale of those projects, Hengqin is going to compete with Thailand head-to-head as a resort destination.
Thailand's tourism infrastructure and branding has been very well received in many international markets, particularly in the West. Hence, any upcoming destination will need to work super hard to catch up. In terms of passenger arrivals, Thailand is also a huge tourism destination in East Asia. Hengqin is still on the drawing board. It'll be a number of years before it opens and then it takes a lot more time to build an international brand. As to whether Thailand should feel threatened, I think it's still way too early.
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Old December 9th, 2006, 01:02 PM   #5
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Thailand's tourism infrastructure and branding has been very well received in many international markets, particularly in the West. Hence, any upcoming destination will need to work super hard to catch up. In terms of passenger arrivals, Thailand is also a huge tourism destination in East Asia. Hengqin is still on the drawing board. It'll be a number of years before it opens and then it takes a lot more time to build an international brand. As to whether Thailand should feel threatened, I think it's still way too early.
China and Hong Kong are the only 2 Asian Destinations on the world top 10 List (destination with most visitors). The World Top 10 destinations are all countries except Hong Kong which is a city. Thailand is not on the World Top 10 List.

Las Vegas Sands is pushing its Plans on Hengqin already, construction work will start very soon after the ground breaking ceremony in December 2006. And they plan to open the resort in Summer of 2008.
So watch out Thailand!
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Old December 9th, 2006, 01:32 PM   #6
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China and Hong Kong are the only 2 Asian Destinations on the world top 10 List (destination with most visitors). The World Top 10 destinations are all countries except Hong Kong which is a city. Thailand is not on the World Top 10 List.

Las Vegas Sands is pushing its Plans on Hengqin already, construction work will start very soon after the ground breaking ceremony in December 2006. And they plan to open the resort in Summer of 2008.
So watch out Thailand!
where can you check that top 10 list?
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Old December 9th, 2006, 02:56 PM   #7
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where can you check that top 10 list?
The list was compiled by the UNWTO (UN World Tourism Organization).

Hong Kong was on the top 10 list (2005 Edition, based on 2004 data)
Ranking in 2005 Edition (based on 2004 data) China - 4, Hong Kong 7

As far as the latest edition (2006 Edition) is concerned, Hong Kong is not on the Top 10 List because they don't count the Visitors from Mainland China as International Visitors.

Since 50% or more of the total number of visitors comes from China, so Hong Kong drops out of the top 10 in 2006 Edition (based on 2005 data)

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Latest ranking in the world top 10 based on International Tourist arrivals (2006 Edition, based on 2005 data)
1 France
2 Spain
3 USA
4 China
5 Italy
6 United Kingdom
7 Mexico
8 Germany
9 Turkey
10 Austria

Latest ranking in Asia based on International Tourist Arrivals(2006 Edition, based on 2005 data)
1. China
2. Malaysia
3. Hong Kong * (Visitors from mainland not counted)
4. Thailand
5. Macau
6. Singapore
7. Japan
8. South Korea
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Old December 9th, 2006, 02:56 PM   #8
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where can you check that top 10 list?
The list was compiled by the UNWTO (UN World Tourism Organization).

Hong Kong was on the top 10 list (2005 Edition, based on 2004 data)
Ranking in 2005 Edition (based on 2004 data) China - 4, Hong Kong 7

As far as the latest edition (2006 Edition) is concerned, Hong Kong is not on the Top 10 List because they don't count the Visitors from Mainland China as International Visitors.

Since 50% or more of the total number of visitors comes from China, so Hong Kong drops out of the top 10 in 2006 Edition (based on 2005 data)

click here for the latest (2006 Tourism Highlights)

Latest ranking in the world top 10 based on International Tourist arrivals (2006 Edition, based on 2005 data)
1 France
2 Spain
3 USA
4 China
5 Italy
6 United Kingdom
7 Mexico
8 Germany
9 Turkey
10 Austria

Latest ranking in Asia based on International Tourist Arrivals(2006 Edition, based on 2005 data)
1. China
2. Malaysia
3. Hong Kong * (Visitors from mainland not counted)
4. Thailand
5. Macau
6. Singapore
7. Japan
8. South Korea
9. Australia
10.Indonesia
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Old December 9th, 2006, 03:13 PM   #9
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China and Hong Kong are the only 2 Asian Destinations on the world top 10 List (destination with most visitors). The World Top 10 destinations are all countries except Hong Kong which is a city. Thailand is not on the World Top 10 List.

Las Vegas Sands is pushing its Plans on Hengqin already, construction work will start very soon after the ground breaking ceremony in December 2006. And they plan to open the resort in Summer of 2008.
So watch out Thailand!
Tourist arrivals are for all of China, so I don't see the connection between total arrivals to China and a potential number once a single resort opens in the future.
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Old December 9th, 2006, 04:33 PM   #10
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Tourist arrivals are for all of China, so I don't see the connection between total arrivals to China and a potential number once a single resort opens in the future.
don't understand what u mean?
can u rephrase yr question?

China, Hong Kong SAR and Macau SAR are on the list of top 10 Asian Destination.

a single Resort? there will be more than 1 resort in the future.
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Old December 9th, 2006, 07:30 PM   #11
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Isn't Ocean Park rebuilding as an image of "resort"??
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Old December 9th, 2006, 09:50 PM   #12
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So with a Universal Studios in Singapore, a Disneyland in Hong Kong and Tokyo, what will come next?

I heard about a Disneyland in Shanghai? Whatever happened to that?
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Old December 10th, 2006, 05:39 AM   #13
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So with a Universal Studios in Singapore, a Disneyland in Hong Kong and Tokyo, what will come next?

I heard about a Disneyland in Shanghai? Whatever happened to that?
I think it's still going on but not quite sure....I also heard Paramount is building a park somewhere in China... either way I'll see what this Universal builds first before I go.
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Old December 10th, 2006, 09:56 AM   #14
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don't understand what u mean?
can u rephrase yr question?

China, Hong Kong SAR and Macau SAR are on the list of top 10 Asian Destination.

a single Resort? there will be more than 1 resort in the future.
China's tourism arrivals is not indicative of how one single resort will perform, let alone try to hypothesize it will overtake Thailand's tourism industry.

For example, a zillion arrivals to China doesn't mean Tibet or Xinjiang will be booming with tourists.
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Old December 10th, 2006, 10:21 AM   #15
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China's tourism arrivals is not indicative of how one single resort will perform, let alone try to hypothesize it will overtake Thailand's tourism industry.

For example, a zillion arrivals to China doesn't mean Tibet or Xinjiang will be booming with tourists.
There are separate figures on visitor arrivals for Hong Kong SAR and Macau SAR.
Even if they don't count the number of Visitors from Mainland China. Hong Kong SAR still beats Thailand. and Macau is closing up the gap.

Hong Kong, PLUS Macau and Hengqin/Zhuhai, a synergy effect...definitely pulling in visitors all over the world. Thailand will be in trouble if they don't do anything.
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Old December 10th, 2006, 10:24 AM   #16
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I think it's still going on but not quite sure....I also heard Paramount is building a park somewhere in China... either way I'll see what this Universal builds first before I go.
You should check out my website regarding the news on Paramount in China.

The deal with paramount fell through. There is no more Paramount Theme Park in Mainland China.
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There are separate figures on visitor arrivals for Hong Kong SAR and Macau SAR.
Even if they don't count the number of Visitors from Mainland China. Hong Kong SAR still beats Thailand. and Macau is closing up the gap.

Hong Kong, PLUS Macau and Hengqin/Zhuhai, a synergy effect...definitely pulling in visitors all over the world. Thailand will be in trouble if they don't do anything.
Thailand attracts a very large regional contingent of tourists, especially in the long-haul sector, thanks to many years of tourism advertising abroad. Hence, they have built up a significant marketing advantage over other Asian destinations. Meanwhile, Hong Kong and Macau are still major tourist destinations, yet the demographic is more regional short-haul.

Thailand has done a lot and has been very successful in the tourism sector. Even Zhuhai right now is an unknown destination to the international tourist. I don't see how much value it can help. The next push in regional tourism for the Pearl River Delta is actually Macau. I wouldn't discount the massive marketing machine from Thailand so quickly.
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Thailand attracts a very large regional contingent of tourists, especially in the long-haul sector, thanks to many years of tourism advertising abroad. Hence, they have built up a significant marketing advantage over other Asian destinations. Meanwhile, Hong Kong and Macau are still major tourist destinations, yet the demographic is more regional short-haul.

Thailand has done a lot and has been very successful in the tourism sector. Even Zhuhai right now is an unknown destination to the international tourist. I don't see how much value it can help. The next push in regional tourism for the Pearl River Delta is actually Macau. I wouldn't discount the massive marketing machine from Thailand so quickly.

No need to argue. just look at the figures from the report published by UNWTO.

Every Country now wants Visitors from Mainland China. and that includes Thailand!!

The future focus for Zhuhai is Chinese Visitors, not overseas international visitors. One of the Reasons Singapore Government picks Las Vegas Sands is because of the Chinese Connection at Macau.
Even Japan and Korea are trying to attract Chinese Visitors. Attracting Chinese visitors are far more important than international visitors from other countries and that's the REALITY. who can beat the enormous 1.3billion population in China? Just a fraction of the 1.3 billion will fill up every hotels in Thailand for x number of years.


With the close proximity of Singapore, the 2 New IRs(Integrated Resorts) run by Las Vegas Sands and Genting and The new Universal Studios at 2010. Thailand 's main direct competitor is Singapore.
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You should check out my website regarding the news on Paramount in China.

The deal with paramount fell through. There is no more Paramount Theme Park in Mainland China.
Wow and I always thought they were building it....
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Universal Studios Singapore + Hong Kong Disneyland = Newly rich/Blue collar families' dream destination
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