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Old June 6th, 2010, 06:46 PM   #2861
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The £2bn ($2.89bn) development, which is located at London Bridge, will be the tallest building in western Europe when it is complete. The mixed use building will include a Shangri-La Hotel and one of the principal office tenants will be government body Transport for London.
How is it possible that this building costs twice than the Burj Dubai?
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Old June 6th, 2010, 07:14 PM   #2862
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More expensive labour, land and it's harder to build due to being built inbetween other buildings.


I would add better materials, but I'm not sure, you wouldn't build an 800m scraper with shoddy materials.
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Old June 6th, 2010, 07:54 PM   #2863
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More expensive labour
Indeed, you won't get many people working in London for $175 a month or less.

In fact, it would be illegal under UK employment law with the national minimum wage at £5.80 ($8.40) an hour.
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Old June 6th, 2010, 10:51 PM   #2864
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Ya that's a big difference. Way to point out how dirty the tallest skyscraper in the world actually is.
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Old June 7th, 2010, 02:16 AM   #2865
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Still £2 billion sounds a lot. Mace's construction contract was £350 million. Maybe that includes the Gem and London Bridge Railway redevelopment as well.
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Old June 7th, 2010, 04:21 AM   #2866
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Old June 7th, 2010, 10:22 AM   #2867
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Still £2 billion sounds a lot. Mace's construction contract was £350 million. Maybe that includes the Gem and London Bridge Railway redevelopment as well.
The £2 billion figure is for the entire London Bridge Quarter development, including London Bridge Place (The Gem). AFAIK it also includes the bus station redevelopment, improvements to the Northern Line tube facilities, replacement of the existing railway concourse at the western end of the station, external piazzas and some other Section 106 funding (essentially money for improvements to the locality negotiated during the planning process) totalling £65 million .

The bulk of the London Bridge railway station redevelopment (the new entrance on Tooley Street with an office building over the middle section of the station) is part of the Thameslink upgrade along with Blackfriars and Borough Market, which is slated to cost around £3.5 billion in total.
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Old June 7th, 2010, 11:53 AM   #2868
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Old June 7th, 2010, 02:26 PM   #2869
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Good to see some glass going in.
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Old June 7th, 2010, 03:59 PM   #2870
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Old June 7th, 2010, 05:30 PM   #2871
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More expensive labour, land and it's harder to build due to being built inbetween other buildings.


I would add better materials, but I'm not sure, you wouldn't build an 800m scraper with shoddy materials.
High strength concrete, world record specification pumps. SOM architecture fees and wind tunnel testing, world class building materials (especially for the hotel - but maybe that was an additional contract).
But steel prices, oil, everything was a lot cheaper when the project started / when it was bid. Oil went from $30 to $145... and in Dubai they probably had lower tax costs too.
But labour would have been a big factor - I'm also sure the Burj Dubai board said 2 million man hours of labour?
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Old June 7th, 2010, 05:59 PM   #2872
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First glass panels erected on the Shard of Glass

The first of 11,000 glass panels that will form the façade of the 310m Shard of Glass was put in place today.

Contractor Mace has set a target of putting the glass in place on the skyscraper at a rate of one floor a week.

The panels, which in total will cover an area of more than 56,000 sq metres, are made of a low iron glass with internal blinds.

The glass is manufactured in Germany with the panels assembled in Holland.

Already 2,500 of the panels have been manufactured and are awaiting delivery to the London Bridge site.

On arrival the panels will be erected from the internal floors thereby eliminating any hazards that could come from an external erection method.

Three crews will be working flat out slotting the panels into place.

The concrete core on the Shard has now passed the 30-storey level, with the steelwork following close behind.

The Shard is scheduled to be completed by May 2012, in time for the London Olympics where the building will form a stunning backdrop to the Games.

The Shard forms part of the £2 billion Renzo Piano-designed London Bridge Quarter regeneration project around London Bridge Station which is being developed by Sellar Property Group in conjunction with the State of Qatar.

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Old June 7th, 2010, 06:00 PM   #2873
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They probably haven't visited the site, there have been some pannels in place for a few days.
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Old June 7th, 2010, 09:15 PM   #2874
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What is the current height of the tower?
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Old June 7th, 2010, 09:18 PM   #2875
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This tower will be impressive and beautiful!
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Old June 8th, 2010, 04:44 AM   #2876
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They probably haven't visited the site, there have been some pannels in place for a few days.
And no one floor per week at least until now...

But good timing on posting that article because those cladding characteristics can also explain the high cost of the building that it´s being discussed over here.
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Old June 8th, 2010, 05:36 AM   #2877
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How is it possible that this building costs twice than the Burj Dubai?
I think Burj Al khalifa is twice the cost.
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Old June 8th, 2010, 12:58 PM   #2878
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What is the current height of the tower?
Current height is around 115/120m to the top of the core. 30 floors are visible but approximately another two are concealed.

According to this diagram

http://planningonline.southwarksites...ts/50966_1.pdf

that puts it around 117m.

Correct me if this diagram is out of date.
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Old June 8th, 2010, 04:03 PM   #2879
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I think Burj Al khalifa is twice the cost.
Yes, the construction materials.

A piece of land/space is pretty cheap in the desert over there compared to a construction lot in the middle of a very old city. Old buildings had to be demolished, there are surrounding buildings that you need to be aware of. Construction workers in London actually get paid. And so on.
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Old June 8th, 2010, 05:07 PM   #2880
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I think Burj Al khalifa is twice the cost.
I had a quick scout round the net and, depending on who you believe, the Burj cost either $1.5 bn or $4.1 bn.
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