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Old August 23rd, 2010, 05:52 AM   #3521
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It starts to look totally awesome I like the location.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 12:39 PM   #3522
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But there is nothing built with anything like the shards glass or structure? Surely the shape of the shard is more unique than the Mercury city tower?
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 12:57 PM   #3523
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Both towers look great, personally I find Mercury City Tower more unique than 'The Shard' in terms of structure and the golden glass cladding (which is something not to be found a lot on skyscrapers these days).
Sorry, the Shard is pure class....

Mercury City Tower represents everything thats worst about "new money" wealth...tacky and tasteless...

You cant buy taste...you either have it or you dont...its like the people who suddenly have money and go out and buy a Ferrari and order it in bright yellow...
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 01:08 PM   #3524
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I guess you are a bit jealous, aren't you? I don't see much of a difference in the "quality"... But I can feel the taste as of the Mercuri City Tower. Shard is just one more tower. But perhaps for London it is already much.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 01:29 PM   #3525
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Sorry, the Shard is pure class....

Mercury City Tower represents everything thats worst about "new money" wealth...tacky and tasteless...

You cant buy taste...you either have it or you dont...its like the people who suddenly have money and go out and buy a Ferrari and order it in bright yellow...
really silly comment. If Moscow build the Shard and London Mercury, would you be saying the same? I don't think so. Maybe just you who don't have any taste, because a lot of people like Mercury (British as well)
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 01:43 PM   #3526
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I posted 15 photos on the other thread using my similarly named account:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...07549&page=606
It's so silly there's 2 threads - I don't know why one isn't just a redirect to go straing to the other thread? Mods - anyone know why 2 threads exist... i don't want one deleted - but "just saying"!!
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 01:56 PM   #3527
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It’s quite common for big projects like this. One for International users and the other for Londoners (London Thread). If everyone posted on just one thread it would be chaos.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 02:05 PM   #3528
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really silly comment. If Moscow build the Shard and London Mercury, would you be saying the same? I don't think so. Maybe just you who don't have any taste, because a lot of people like Mercury (British as well)
London would never build the Mercury Tower....because it would never get planning permission in its current state.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 02:41 PM   #3529
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London would never build the Mercury Tower....because it would never get planning permission in its current state.
Well, a lot of permissions London didn't get, like I see.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 03:12 PM   #3530
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As I've said before on this forum, comparing the Shard and the Mercury City Tower is like comparing apples to oranges. It's a totally different style of skyscraper, they are not comparable in any quantifiable way.

As for my personal taste, I said I've said this before also, I like the Shard better. Both towers are magnificent as far as their shape is concerned, but I'm not a big fan of the MCT's cladding, which is why the Shard makes the cut for me. If they changed the MCT's colour to something less tacky, both towers would be on equal terms for me. Let's hope the MCT developers come to their senses.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 04:17 PM   #3531
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This is the tower London needs. It's going to be amazing. London is on of my favorite cities.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 04:50 PM   #3532
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really silly comment. If Moscow build the Shard and London Mercury, would you be saying the same? I don't think so. Maybe just you who don't have any taste, because a lot of people like Mercury (British as well)
A lot of London's towers get abuse, including from the London forumers instead. If something isn't up to scratch or felt good enough for the city, there will be a lot of complaints, it does come across as more of a quality over quantity or height thing with the London forumers. I personally don't think there are many supertalls U/C around the world that are as good as the Shard, and I would not swap it for the majority. But there are some that are as good or even better in my eyes. Mercury isn't one of them. I can say without any hesitation that I'd much rather have the Shard in my capital, much like I could say I'd also rather have certain other towers than the Shard.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 04:59 PM   #3533
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Think M3 Architects came up with a concept 1,450ft tower shaped like a sail designed for Aldgate or something if I remember which definitely reflected the past whilst looking at the future. but alas, pipedreams, the London Bridge Tower is beautiful structure (or will be) and London definitely will look better for it despite the e-mails I've sent back and two to english Heritage recently who frustrate the hell out of me.

London Bridge Tower will crown London as nothing will ever be taller than it unless they move City airport.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 06:54 PM   #3534
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Honestly I don't see anything special about it.... Love the height though
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 09:30 PM   #3535
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Honestly I don't see anything special about it.... Love the height though
If you were from London the view may differ. Of course it all depends on a subjective definition of what 'special' means to you in terms of built environment. However, I offer this...

The reason we feel it's a great building is not only its build quality but much more than that, it's about the context of the regulatory and built environment that has managed to even get this off the ground in the first place and how this will influence the future for London's office and residential space. London has been ill served with grade A office space that allows financial flexibility for some time and the same is true of land, where any one company wishes to build finds it tough to get through bureaucracy.

Not only is it more expensive to build anything in London by around 1/3, but there are oppositions from nimby's, heritage body's and planning bodies that have up until recently halted or scaled down plans for anything tall. This building re-defines the boudaries in the face of a shortage of space and growing workforce population in London and not a moment too soon.

Those of us who support progress in this field have waited a long time and essentially it lays the foundations for future architecture and form in a city that has had to fight for anything tall at all. So I believe the enthusiasm comes somewhat from this building represents as much as what it looks like.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 10:57 PM   #3536
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I've never been a great fan of tall buildings in London. I've always felt that, with the exception of a handful, they tend to diminish rather than enhance a magnificent skyline.

The buildings that I do like, in chronological order are the Telecom Tower, Centre Point, Tower 42, the Gherkin and now the Shard. That is because I feel that there is more about them than just providing office space and the ones that I have listed probably have the smallest ratio of lettable floor space. I quite like Canary Wharf but have never been that impressed by the ground level environment which is more like an upmarket business park than a place with a true urban feel.

I take issue with English Heritage because I feel that their approach to tall buildings is 'if we have to have them, make them as short as possible'. Obviously, height is what defines the tall building, sets it apart from others and the short, stumpy buildings that EH seem to prefer are neither one thing nor the other - just intrusions.

I like the Shard as in a very modern way it harmonises with the Wren churches that have been the landmarks of London for centuries. It also has that quality that you see in the Empire State Building and Chrysler Buildings of celebrating its height, literally 'scraping the sky'. I don't agree with many forummers who would like to see the Shard become the centre of a South Bank cluster as I think that would diminish the impact of the building.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 12:22 AM   #3537
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The building is not likely going to be liked by everybody doesn't denial the fact this building makes much difference in that particular location. As for me, the slant facade design is astonishingly a place to pass the time looking at rain-drops falling down on it. I think am going to like it, when the building is completed.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 02:03 AM   #3538
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I guess you are a bit jealous, aren't you? I don't see much of a difference in the "quality"... But I can feel the taste as of the Mercuri City Tower. Shard is just one more tower. But perhaps for London it is already much.
Everything you said there is wrong. The shard is higher quality, the shard means more for London than mercury city tower means for Moscow, and to me MCT is just another tower in the IBC, the shard stands out... Tbh I don't think any city in the world will be jealous of the mct and here in London we most certainly are not jealous. Rant over.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 06:41 AM   #3539
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