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Old August 25th, 2010, 08:14 PM   #3561
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A few pics from yesterday.

More to be found in my Shard Gallery, which has just passed the 2,000 photos mark


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Old August 26th, 2010, 12:16 AM   #3562
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I love how 9 months ago the core was non existent...
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Old August 26th, 2010, 12:40 AM   #3563
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This really is the finest quality glass I've ever seen used for a skyscraper.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 01:03 AM   #3564
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This really is the finest quality glass I've ever seen used for a skyscraper.
Just wait until the World Trade Center is done then.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 01:57 AM   #3565
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Just wait until the World Trade Center is done then.
At the speed that's being built at, that could be years away!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old August 26th, 2010, 01:37 PM   #3566
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This really is the finest quality glass I've ever seen used for a skyscraper.
truly!!!
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Old August 26th, 2010, 02:36 PM   #3567
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Those are good image updates above. Meanwhile, Handbanana,that's an easy way to hijack a thread by comparing the quality of one to the other.

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Old August 26th, 2010, 04:44 PM   #3568
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Regarding this: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=456410
Rather strange this but the 4th cam on the cam page had it's angle rotated quite a bit between the 18th and 24th - strangely it rotated horizontally (not vertically - which would be understandable as the building obviously grows taller). I was wondering if a pigeon or something a lot heavier had knocked it
I've found that saving them with the name cam1_2010-08-20a means you can tab through them in Microsoft image viewer to see what's changed from day-to-day... otherwise it's really bloody hard to see what's changed on each side. I only have saves going back about 2 weeks though - and only random days. I have some life outside the Shard
It's interesting actually to see what the weathers like in London (I'm out west near Reading)... based on what direction the winds blowing out the window I can predict what the weathers going to be an hour before / afterwards! Also - Wednesday was a wash out - the cameras pointing up were covered in raindrops!
It would be amusing for somebody to hold up a sign in front of a cam saying "hello skyscrapercity viewers" if there was one near a viewing point... and if we knew the time it took each pic... and if somebody was there to save it (or browsing wirelessly).
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Old August 26th, 2010, 04:49 PM   #3569
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A few pics from yesterday.

More to be found in my Shard Gallery, which has just passed the 2,000 photos mark


and some details

It's only looking at this and the almost perfect reflection do you notice how badly warped most windows are! Often you can get some really concave windows.
Because of this I wonder if anyone's going to get a "blinding" bounced sun effect caused by the uniform reflection? It might be the case that if the sun is low enough then this could happen...
I remember from school, kids farting around in art class with a handheld mirror reflecting it into people!
Maybe some nearby office workers are going to need strong sunglasses!

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Old August 26th, 2010, 04:55 PM   #3570
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Sunny days in London? Poppycock!

Just kidding. Imagine driving towards the Shard and the sun hits at the perfect angle...
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Old August 26th, 2010, 05:39 PM   #3571
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It's only looking at this and the almost perfect reflection do you notice how badly warped most windows are! Often you can get some really concave windows.
Because of this I wonder if anyone's going to get a "blinding" bounced sun effect caused by the uniform reflection? It might be the case that if the sun is low enough then this could happen...
I remember from school, kids farting around in art class with a handheld mirror reflecting it into people!
Maybe some nearby office workers are going to need strong sunglasses!
All glass panes are probably smooth like this when first installed, and maybe its after when the elements to their work it distorts.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 06:30 PM   #3572
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All glass panes are probably smooth like this when first installed, and maybe its after when the elements to their work it distorts.
I dunno about that. Mineral glass is an incredibly hard material.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 07:11 PM   #3573
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Merely looking at the glasses tells they are not reflective types. Only on summer there is going to be a little problem with heat. Maybe,maybe I said,there is going to be provision for blinds to take care of the sun.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 07:57 PM   #3574
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Only on summer there is going to be a little problem with heat. Maybe,maybe I said,there is going to be provision for blinds to take care of the sun.
There is. The orange bars you can see in the glazing units are the blind boxes. They are outside the internal envelope of the building.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 08:02 PM   #3575
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All glass panes are probably smooth like this when first installed, and maybe its after when the elements to their work it distorts.
Not true. Normally glass is put into the frame then things are put around the frame. The frame is then normally compressing on the glass and this causes the slight concave or convex effect. Not noticeably so until you try and see the reflection of something. The cheaper the window frame the worse it is. For instance I had a window (cheap cloakroom window fitted) - if you stand 5 metres from it and it looks like a hall of mirrors!
There was some article in some official building forum from a spokesperson saying that the glass was made in the frame or something so as to achieve this perfect reflection look.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 11:07 PM   #3576
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A few pics from yesterday.

From Guy's courtyard


The CLS is cooler than The Shard in this picture
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Old August 27th, 2010, 12:48 AM   #3577
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I'm pretty sure that glare from window reflections will have been considered at planning application stage. When Ian Simpson was planning a glass clad skyscraper for Liverpool, the effect of glare was taken seriously to the extent that some of the glass would have a 'frit' applied to counteract it. I guess the glass in the Shard will have some special anti-glare coating or surface texture.
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Old August 27th, 2010, 12:58 AM   #3578
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I'm pretty sure that glare from window reflections will have been considered at planning application stage.
I seem to remember a dreadful mistake occurring in Croydon in the 1980s when they built 69 Park Lane with a mirror glass finish.

It's situated right at the eastern end of the Croydon Flyover. Of course, come the right time of year, when the sun set in the evening, it reflected beautifully off the newly completed building, causing hideous glare for drivers heading East and a few traffic accidents on the flyover.

If memory serves me right, they had to completely replace all the glazing panels on the building with something slightly less reflective.
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Old August 27th, 2010, 05:06 AM   #3579
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glass looking good.
can i ask a silly question?
is core still at lev38?
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Old August 27th, 2010, 06:14 AM   #3580
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glass warping could be due to pressure. it has two layers, doesn't it? so if the pressure on the outside is slightly more than the pressure in between the two layers of glass, then it would be slightly concave. also, it wouldn't take much (maybe even a couple of mm) for the reflections to be visibly distorted.

Nice tower, and I DO like the glass
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