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Old August 27th, 2010, 12:00 PM   #3581
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glass warping could be due to pressure. it has two layers, doesn't it?
Most of the external panels you can see only have one layer of glass - it's essentially just a rain screen.





the 'recesses' show the double-glazed units, which AFAIK are similar to the panels that will go behind the main external layer and provide thermal insulation.

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Old August 27th, 2010, 02:19 PM   #3582
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I'm pretty sure that glare from window reflections will have been considered at planning application stage. When Ian Simpson was planning a glass clad skyscraper for Liverpool, the effect of glare was taken seriously to the extent that some of the glass would have a 'frit' applied to counteract it. I guess the glass in the Shard will have some special anti-glare coating or surface texture.
Seriously, why? It would look stunning on this building. It was the reverse here when they built the Eureka Tower - including gold glass (and real gold) that gives this effect in the sun...

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Old August 27th, 2010, 02:24 PM   #3583
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umm. wat colour lighting will the tower have when done?? anyone know? cause it looks like there might be red lights at each floor in one of the last pics, looks cool though. maybe i am missing something
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Old August 27th, 2010, 02:35 PM   #3584
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This webcam screenshot gives a good preview of the reflective appearance of the cladding

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Old August 27th, 2010, 04:49 PM   #3585
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umm. wat colour lighting will the tower have when done?? anyone know? cause it looks like there might be red lights at each floor in one of the last pics, looks cool though. maybe i am missing something
I hadn't considered that as a possibility before. Interesting idea and quite cool.

You mean these, on the Wing ends?







Against the concept: I suspect they're a little too structural to also contain a light. While there must be power to the blinds, it's a little difficult to see how they might run it out there.

Would be tremendous fun changing a bulb if/when it failed - and there are a lot of them
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Old August 27th, 2010, 05:21 PM   #3586
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I think this building will look the greatest at night, as it is all glass cladding there will be alot of light coming from it in the evening, unlike tall buildings with alot of windows like 1CS.
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Old August 27th, 2010, 08:07 PM   #3587
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I hadn't considered that as a possibility before. Interesting idea and quite cool.

You mean these, on the Wing ends?







Against the concept: I suspect they're a little too structural to also contain a light. While there must be power to the blinds, it's a little difficult to see how they might run it out there.

Would be tremendous fun changing a bulb if/when it failed - and there are a lot of them
Nice building and great progress. But I do hope they plan on correcting some of that shoddy workmanship. A Renzo Piano building is all about the fine details.
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Old August 27th, 2010, 08:34 PM   #3588
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Looking good!!
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Old August 27th, 2010, 10:23 PM   #3589
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Old August 28th, 2010, 12:13 AM   #3590
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Wow, what a giant set of pictures!

They are already keeping the glass clean, good boys.
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This webcam screenshot gives a good preview of the reflective appearance of the cladding

I think that image is a bit misleading. The cladding is not as reflective as the photo made it to look like.
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Old August 28th, 2010, 01:04 AM   #3592
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Quite impressive that they take the effort to clean the Facade, although it is still U/C.
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Old August 28th, 2010, 04:00 AM   #3593
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Nice building and great progress. But I do hope they plan on correcting some of that shoddy workmanship. A Renzo Piano building is all about the fine details.
What are you talking about?
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Old August 28th, 2010, 05:48 AM   #3594
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Old August 28th, 2010, 05:53 AM   #3595
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@cybertect yes they r wat i was referring to but the ones i was dirrectly referring to are those that are on the inside of the windows toward the top of each pane where the floorplate would hide it from view on the inside
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Old August 28th, 2010, 02:02 PM   #3596
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What are you talking about?
Check out the last photo in his post, the steel runners arent exactly straight....may just be a case of final adjustments yet to made though....
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Old August 28th, 2010, 02:11 PM   #3597
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Seriously, why? It would look stunning on this building. It was the reverse here when they built the Eureka Tower - including gold glass (and real gold) that gives this effect in the sun...

Reflective glass can look very good - but the problem is with glare - particularly reflections of the sun at certain times of the day. This can be dangerous if it dazzles motorists (in the case of the Liverpool tower there was concern about the effect on train drivers as well).

Clearly a tower the size of the Shard could cause a huge amount of glare unless something is done about it. It seems that the glass has a matt finish which would tend to diffuse light and reduce glare.

Might also explain the perception that the glass is flatter than ordinary window glass. I'm not saying that isn't the case but if you paint a wall with gloss paint, it will show up all of the defects in the plaster whereas one painted in matt emulsion will seem perfectly flat.
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Old August 28th, 2010, 02:42 PM   #3598
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Glad to see it rising, and what a pace!

No doubt it'll be ready for OG , pitty Bishopsgate wont
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Old August 28th, 2010, 06:45 PM   #3599
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@cybertect yes they r wat i was referring to but the ones i was dirrectly referring to are those that are on the inside of the windows toward the top of each pane where the floorplate would hide it from view on the inside
I think in that case what you're talking about are the blind boxes to house the window blinds.
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Old August 28th, 2010, 08:17 PM   #3600
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even from 5 miles away this monster is making a big impact on the london skyline, and its not even half way up yet , this is going to be probably the most significant structure in europe .
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