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Old January 26th, 2008, 11:19 PM   #661
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Old January 26th, 2008, 11:30 PM   #662
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Old February 1st, 2008, 03:18 AM   #663
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Princes Charles against LBT

Prince Charles slams plans to 'vandalise' London skyline

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LONDON (AFP) — Britain's Prince Charles on Thursday savaged plans to erect more odd-shaped towers in London, saying they would "vandalise" the skyline and trash the city's character.

The heir to the throne, a fierce critic of post-World War II architecture, lambasted plans to site towers overshadowing historic places like the Tower of London and the City of Westminster.

After the gherkin-like 30 St Mary Axe tower was completed in 2004, an array of weird-shaped steel and glass towers are now in the pipeline, with nicknames like "Shard of Glass", "Walkie Talkie", "Helter Skelter" and "Cheesegrater".

"For some unaccountable reason we seem to be determined to vandalise these few remaining sites which retain the kind of human scale and timeless character that so attract people to them and which increase in value as time goes by," Charles told a building and planning conference at St James's Palace.

"Thus, in chasing the corporate tenant or the buy-to-let investor, we may not only be destroying our heritage, but killing the goose that lays the golden egg for we will destroy what makes our cities and towns so attractive to tourists in the process."

The prince, 59, said the approach of Berlin, where restrictions are imposed on the height of new buildings, "can help to achieve a far more coherent sense of harmony and civic self-confidence than the alternative 'free-for-all' that will leave London and our other cities with a pockmarked skyline".

Prince Charles contrasted the protection of the historic skyline in Paris, where tall buildings were allowed only around La Défense, and London where commercial pressures and the need to build 3 million more homes meant tall buildings were encroaching into historic areas and not areas suitable for them such as Canary Wharf.

A rash of skyscrapers "will disfigure precious views and disinherit future generations of Londoners," he added.

Due to post-war architectural carelessness, sink estates across Britain were "unloved and relentlessly, depressingly ugly," Charles added.

As an alternative, residential buildings should consist of four- to five-storey terraces and six- to 10-storey mansion blocks.

Buildings should be built to last 100 years rather than 20, and have flexible use. The proportions, layout, material and building practices used should fit the location.

Charles has tried to put his own building ideas into practice at Poundbury in south-west England, built on land he owns and conceived by him as an inspiration to town planning and design.

He concluded by telling delegates: "For the past 60 years or so we have been conducting an experiment in social and environmental engineering that has gone disastrously wrong."
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Old February 1st, 2008, 03:24 AM   #664
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Times change Charly - dont think your going to be king though,...
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Old February 1st, 2008, 09:38 AM   #665
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Prince Charles is a dick...
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Old February 1st, 2008, 10:09 AM   #666
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i agree, the shard is surely up there with the best projects in the world right now and some stupid nosy royal shouldn't get in the way!
I think Big Ben deserves some competition...
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Old February 1st, 2008, 01:36 PM   #667
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We don't know if the POW is specifically referring to The Shard; he may well be referring to 20 Fenchurch St, a tower which on this board hasn't received universal acclaim.
In any case, The Shard is on the south bank of the Thames so won't "overshadow' the Tower of London or the City of Westminster.
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Old February 1st, 2008, 02:12 PM   #668
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Old February 1st, 2008, 02:48 PM   #669
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who likes prince charles anyway?
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Old February 1st, 2008, 03:51 PM   #670
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who likes prince charles anyway?
so put down the monarchy and set the English Republic
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Old February 1st, 2008, 05:18 PM   #671
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A conservative, stuck-in-the-past royal. I am shocked....
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Old February 1st, 2008, 06:51 PM   #672
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Princes Charles against LBT

Prince Charles slams plans to 'vandalise' London skyline

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LONDON (AFP) — Britain's Prince Charles on Thursday savaged plans to erect more odd-shaped towers in London, saying they would "vandalise" the skyline and trash the city's character.

The heir to the throne, a fierce critic of post-World War II architecture, lambasted plans to site towers overshadowing historic places like the Tower of London and the City of Westminster.

After the gherkin-like 30 St Mary Axe tower was completed in 2004, an array of weird-shaped steel and glass towers are now in the pipeline, with nicknames like "Shard of Glass", "Walkie Talkie", "Helter Skelter" and "Cheesegrater".

"For some unaccountable reason we seem to be determined to vandalise these few remaining sites which retain the kind of human scale and timeless character that so attract people to them and which increase in value as time goes by," Charles told a building and planning conference at St James's Palace.

"Thus, in chasing the corporate tenant or the buy-to-let investor, we may not only be destroying our heritage, but killing the goose that lays the golden egg for we will destroy what makes our cities and towns so attractive to tourists in the process."

The prince, 59, said the approach of Berlin, where restrictions are imposed on the height of new buildings, "can help to achieve a far more coherent sense of harmony and civic self-confidence than the alternative 'free-for-all' that will leave London and our other cities with a pockmarked skyline".

Prince Charles contrasted the protection of the historic skyline in Paris, where tall buildings were allowed only around La Défense, and London where commercial pressures and the need to build 3 million more homes meant tall buildings were encroaching into historic areas and not areas suitable for them such as Canary Wharf.

A rash of skyscrapers "will disfigure precious views and disinherit future generations of Londoners," he added.

Due to post-war architectural carelessness, sink estates across Britain were "unloved and relentlessly, depressingly ugly," Charles added.

As an alternative, residential buildings should consist of four- to five-storey terraces and six- to 10-storey mansion blocks.

Buildings should be built to last 100 years rather than 20, and have flexible use. The proportions, layout, material and building practices used should fit the location.

Charles has tried to put his own building ideas into practice at Poundbury in south-west England, built on land he owns and conceived by him as an inspiration to town planning and design.

He concluded by telling delegates: "For the past 60 years or so we have been conducting an experiment in social and environmental engineering that has gone disastrously wrong."
Such retrograde comments make my blood boil

What makes many european cities unique is that mixture of ancient and avantgard architechture side by side. Too bad this man has SOOO much power.
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Old February 1st, 2008, 07:11 PM   #673
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Aww! Charles doesn't like the towers? I wish they had never been planned now! THEY MUST BE STOPPED!!!

The man can frak off. All the big sites are active now and they won planning permission fair and square. He has absolutely no power to stop them, and if he thinks his little speech is going to change the minds of the developers and more importantly the city planners, then he is seriously deluded.

London is the most amazing city in the world, IMO. It has been through SO much shit, for THOUSANDS of years, yet it comes back stronger, it still thrives and is seen as a modern metropolis, easily able to compete with the likes of New York and Tokyo. If this man thinks he can stagnate it and turn it into a museum then he is an idiot.
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Old February 1st, 2008, 07:22 PM   #674
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Charlie should stop barking and get a job.
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Old February 1st, 2008, 07:27 PM   #675
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Cant believe what he just said, he really wants London to stay old forever, well it aint gonna happen, you wannabe king
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Old February 1st, 2008, 07:36 PM   #676
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He says that buildings should be built to last 100 years and not 20. Well that's exactly what the Shard is going to do, it'll probably last for even longer than 100 years.
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Charles is right. The two skylines of London are perfectly clustered in the City and on Canary Warf. Nowadays new skyscrapers pop-up everywhere. If you're not careful London is transforming into another Shanghai. Just another highrise city which can't be distinguished from any other present day skyscrapercity.
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Charles is right. The two skylines of London are perfectly clustered in the City and on Canary Warf. Nowadays new skyscrapers pop-up everywhere. If you're not careful London is transforming into another Shanghai. Just another highrise city which can't be distinguished from any other present day skyscrapercity.
And who are you, the queen???

And are you seriously saying shanghai cant be distinguished from chicago, or new york or dubai???????...or any other city???
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Charles is right. The two skylines of London are perfectly clustered in the City and on Canary Warf. Nowadays new skyscrapers pop-up everywhere. If you're not careful London is transforming into another Shanghai. Just another highrise city which can't be distinguished from any other present day skyscrapercity.
Have you actually looked at London's proposals?

Why the hell does everyone assume that just because a city has a number of tall buildings it will look like all the other cities with tall buildings? I can assure you it is alot harder to distinguish two low-rise cities.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 12:15 PM   #680
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As I have said before, London has one of the best skylines in the world without skyscrapers and IMO I think these new skyscrapers will enhance the rest of the city not shadow it.
By around 2015 London will have an even more classy, stylish and futuristic skyline.
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