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Old February 2nd, 2008, 04:40 PM   #681
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surely he cant change the construction now?
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 06:09 PM   #682
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We don't know if the POW is specifically referring to The Shard; he may well be referring to 20 Fenchurch St, a tower which on this board hasn't received universal acclaim.
In any case, The Shard is on the south bank of the Thames so won't "overshadow' the Tower of London or the City of Westminster.
Then it does not look like a problem to me. Looking at the renders in the opening post, I must say I have some sympathy for prince Charles, this building may fit better in one of the existing clusters then on this location with few towers nearby.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 11:08 PM   #683
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Prince Charles disgusts me and very disgraceful to the world. He needs to get a life, seriously. Let's ignore him and get this beautiful skyscraper get built!
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 04:09 PM   #684
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surely he cant change the construction now?
Nah - of course not.

Prince Charles has no power whatsoever, he's just stating his old fashioned opinions. (although, to be fair he should not be totally ignored, some of his views on sustainability, communities and buildings built to last are worth listening too....but overall he is stuck in the past)
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 08:08 PM   #685
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Then it does not look like a problem to me. Looking at the renders in the opening post, I must say I have some sympathy for prince Charles, this building may fit better in one of the existing clusters then on this location with few towers nearby.
No. Like the Eiffel Tower, this building looks best alone. Hell, it even goes one step further and was specifically designed to stand alone. Putting more towers near it, or putting it where there are more towers, would ruin it.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 08:54 PM   #686
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Anyone who has sympathy with prince charles's views on LBT has obviously never been to the area. It is so far from the idealistic medieval london that charles seems to think it is - the street plan and buildings are not quaint and olde worlde. The area is dominated by massive, busy roads, ugly post war dross and quite frankly the most horrid transport interchange in London.

Its not an attractive location, it does not represent historic london and there is very little in the area worth preserving, This is the ideal location for a tall building and total redevelopment.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 11:28 PM   #687
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Anyone who has sympathy with prince charles's views on LBT has obviously never been to the area. It is so far from the idealistic medieval london that charles seems to think it is - the street plan and buildings are not quaint and olde worlde. The area is dominated by massive, busy roads, ugly post war ground dross and quite frankly the most horrid transport interchange in London.

Its not an attractive location, it does not represent historic london and there is very little in the area worth preserving, This is the ideal location for a tall building and total redevelopment.
I agree London bridge is pretty duff
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Old February 4th, 2008, 12:14 AM   #688
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Agreed.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 01:08 AM   #689
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then he is an idiot.
Got it in one. He's a complete tit.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 12:05 PM   #690
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Towers usually should be approved on quality rather than locality. Unless there is a universal historic value that needs protecting.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 02:01 AM   #691
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A 2nd supertall for London...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=579524

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Old February 7th, 2008, 02:04 AM   #692
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It's not impossible, if the tower has a higher office usage than the Shard, and has similar radiator/cooling floors, or maybe an architectural addition like a spire or fins which seem quite popular now. I hope it isn't just a 60 floor box!

And unless I'm mistaken there are no height restrictions in regards to aircraft in Croydon?
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Old February 7th, 2008, 10:30 AM   #693
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bring it on i say
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Old February 7th, 2008, 04:26 PM   #694
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Great project for London
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Old February 7th, 2008, 10:17 PM   #695
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Great project for London
Do you mean LBT?
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Old February 9th, 2008, 02:51 AM   #696
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Webcast info on Shard Project 2008

Although I mentioned it here before, thought I'd give a link to a webcast I've been watching recently about Shard. Am off to Chicago next tuesday so will be able to check up on the progress of our own new "scrapers" !!

listen in on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i64xTevD8A
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Old February 9th, 2008, 11:58 PM   #697
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What effing "views" Charlie Windsor?

Quote from the moron Charlie Windsor: "A rash of skyscrapers "will disfigure precious views and disinherit future generations of Londoners," he added"

What effing "views"? I have been to London many times and have never seen any type of view whatsoever. Because of the way the roads are built with curves and dead-ends and the way the neighborhoods are situated who really has a view of anything but their neighbors? Can someone enlighten me? I agree that it is time for London to quit their love affair with those ugly looking medieval structures.

As far as the towers go and this one in particular is there a nearby tube to support the amount of people working there and will the surrounding roads support the daily deliveries this type of tower will demand? I am sure they thought of this but looking at the streets seems like a recipe for gridlock.

BTW... I'll never understand why the people of the UK tolerate the "royals" and their BS. Especially since so much money goes to subsidizing the adulterous slobs. Here in the United States we would have tossed their behinds out long ago and ended this monarchy nonsense. Maybe the UK will "progress" in this area like they have with the skyscrapers?
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Old February 10th, 2008, 02:57 PM   #698
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^The LBT will be built directly above london bridge tube station, so id say the transport is pretty good. We're very fond of our medieval structures, its the bland concrete council blocks that really make the area ugly, and fortunatly this should get rid of one of the worst, possibly more when they do up the area. We put up with the royals because americans love the idea of it, and we make big bucks from tourism at places like windsor castle and buckingham palace. In fact they probably draw in much more money through tourism than we pay them.
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Old February 10th, 2008, 03:50 PM   #699
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They only cost 60p a year per person (or something like that) - and as mentioned, they bring in a lot of tourism, and also do a lot of charity work and so on. I'm happy enough with them for the time being, as are most people.

I do wish Charlie boy would shut the hell up though....i hope he skips the thrown and hands it straight to Wills.
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I somewhat like the bleakness of southwark at time.A supertall in croydon is stupid.It will look totally out-of-place.Bring on 200m but 300+ is stretching that bit too far
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