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Old June 17th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #7181
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saw this tower last August and man has it grown. Awesome pictures from everybody Back in London this August an gonna visit the Shard once more
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Old June 17th, 2011, 03:38 PM   #7182
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super!! after finished shard the main project in London will be to destroy this ugly guy hospital
Nonsense. Architecture in London isn't about everything being pristine. Go to Canary Warf if that is all you want to see. Guys has great character.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 05:05 PM   #7183
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Old June 17th, 2011, 06:11 PM   #7184
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Sorry but hoping for Guy's tower to be demolished is unrealistic. It's a public hospital, it won't get demolished. A recladding is possible.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 06:24 PM   #7185
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Old June 17th, 2011, 08:08 PM   #7186
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Sorry but hoping for Guy's tower to be demolished is unrealistic. It's a public hospital, it won't get demolished. A recladding is possible.
Since The Shard has grown taller than Guys I hate it less and less. It's only really ugly (I.M.O) from the south and south east where the bit at the top that juts out is visible. Despite it's large height, I've began to find it quite unobtrusive from the west and the shard hasn't even topped out yet.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 09:27 PM   #7187
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One topic that always fascinates me about these unusually shaped structures is just how they clean plan to clean the windows. I can think of two ways:

1. They have a telescopic cantilever arm from which the cradle is suspended which gets longer as the cradle gets further down the tower.

2. The cradle has wheels in contact with the glass, which means that it follows the shape of the building naturally.

I guess (1) is more likely as that is the method used on Swiss Re although it will be some cantilever when the cradle is at the lowest point of its travel. (2) is probably impractical as there are no running rails alongside the windows and the running of wheels would tend to damage the glass surface.

There is a third alternative and that is the use of self-cleaning glass - but it would take some confidence in the longevity of this system before you could dispense with traditional methods although I suspect it might be the only solution for those areas where both faces of the glass are external.

Whatever the solution, I hope it is less prominent than in the case of Swiss Re where the two window cleaning rails tend to detract from the appearance of the top of the tower and the equipment, when in use, alters the appearance of the whole building.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 10:33 PM   #7188
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From what I've seen from previous pics, they use the first option (I suppose it's the more common one).
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Old June 18th, 2011, 12:05 AM   #7189
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1. They have a telescopic cantilever arm from which the cradle is suspended which gets longer as the cradle gets further down the tower.
This, speaking with a little first-hand knowledge

The cradles grab onto the pair of bars that run along the ends of the glazing 'wings' to help it traverse the full width of the building lower down.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 12:05 AM   #7190
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I was hoping to see some signs of TC7, which is going to be cantilevered off the side of level 56, at lunch time, but to no avail, nor anything this evening

The weather was pretty poor - I got well and truly soaked by the rain on my bike this evening.

Anyhow, here's some pics from a late lunch walk, there's a few others from today to be found in my Shard Gallery.

From Queen Elizabeth Street




North side TC looking rather stumpy




British Gypsum lorry in the Shard Holding Area on St Thomas Street, delivering a 'plaster and dry lining system' to site




Backpack TC with the steel frame on the roof coming along nicely




Holes in the glazing formerly occupied by the East side TC's super ties




Masonry above Gate 2




A ceiling to the outside triple height space on Joiner Street




Backpack roof steel






North side TC from the other side




Holes in the glazing plugged where the west side TC used to be tied




Not much of the core left visible now

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Old June 18th, 2011, 12:28 AM   #7191
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for that second picture.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 02:09 PM   #7192
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Sorry but hoping for Guy's tower to be demolished is unrealistic. It's a public hospital, it won't get demolished. A recladding is possible.
Thank you Porto, but how many times does this need to be repeated, and how many times does Axel need to ask this question?

Guys might have a reclad but it's going nowhere, and nor should it at the moment. The last thing the NHS can afford rigt now is a new hospital because some people think Guys spoils the view of the Shard

Let's get realistic.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 02:46 PM   #7193
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I've kinda warmed to guys anyway really. I like how it shows it's age, looking a bit crumbly.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 04:07 PM   #7194
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Thank you Porto, but how many times does this need to be repeated, and how many times does Axel need to ask this question?

Guys might have a reclad but it's going nowhere, and nor should it at the moment. The last thing the NHS can afford rigt now is a new hospital because some people think Guys spoils the view of the Shard

Let's get realistic.
Besides, 'regular' people probably see us skyscraper fans as freaks and when they go close to the Shard they are probably going home after work, wondering about what they'll make for dinner.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 04:28 PM   #7195
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Besides, 'regular' people probably see us skyscraper fans as freaks and when they go close to the Shard they are probably going home after work, wondering about what they'll make for dinner.
That's like when going on the train though London, it seems I'm the only one interested when going past Canary Wharf, the Shard and the City of London buildings.

God bless us Skyscraper fans
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Old June 18th, 2011, 04:31 PM   #7196
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Wonder how hot it gets inside the Shard on a sunny day without any HVAC?
The construction workers doing the interior must be sweating lke crazy.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 05:21 PM   #7197
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Thank you Porto, but how many times does this need to be repeated, and how many times does Axel need to ask this question?

Guys might have a reclad but it's going nowhere, and nor should it at the moment. The last thing the NHS can afford rigt now is a new hospital because some people think Guys spoils the view of the Shard

Let's get realistic.
Why to not dream? is it forbidden?

Did you before shard that this 300 m skyscrap will be there? no then...
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Old June 18th, 2011, 07:23 PM   #7199
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