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Old March 28th, 2008, 08:29 PM   #741
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Is this project a definite "go"?
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Old March 28th, 2008, 08:35 PM   #742
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Site demolition is currently underway and funding for construction is reported to be secured.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 09:00 PM   #743
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Thats good news :P
Althought,i am slightly concered :s

Would there be a possibilty of i height reduction or even a raise in height??
I would be extremely pissed off if the UK's only supertall didn't quite make it as one
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Old March 28th, 2008, 10:45 PM   #744
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You're being a tad bit pessimist there and NO, it will NOT get a height reduction.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 10:48 PM   #745
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i'm srry but this building is a joke.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 11:29 PM   #746
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i'm srry but this building is a joke.
Why?
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Old March 28th, 2008, 11:32 PM   #747
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Thats good news :P
Althought,i am slightly concered :s

Would there be a possibilty of i height reduction or even a raise in height??
I would be extremely pissed off if the UK's only supertall didn't quite make it as one

Really? As a Londoner myself, I couldn't care less. London doesn't need tall buildings to define itself.

This building will be an interesting oddity on the skyline, no more. I hope it is built as planned, but am certainly not going to lose any sleep if it doesn't happen.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 11:52 PM   #748
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It's British humour.
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Old March 29th, 2008, 09:51 PM   #749
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Well if this building is a joke, I think it's one of the best jokes out of all these projects/jokes out there (planned or being built).

This tower has been one of my favorites ever since the project came out.
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Old March 29th, 2008, 11:12 PM   #750
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Actually, it's Helghast being Helghast. If it is not Dubai, or more accurately, if it is from the US or UK, it either sucks, not tall enough, to plain.....he kinda just likes to hate.
just becuae i dont liek the freedom tower doesnt mean i dont like any tower in the US. and for your info. i live in chicago. i guess even voice your own opinion.
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agree totally! . i mean, this is one of the best supertall-projects in europe and IMO with a damn great design
it's funny that u say that cuz you said that about the russian tower.

and the reason i say this is a joke, because this tower was proposed or approved for got what it was exactly and that was back in November, 2003. and its going to be done by 2012. now thats a joke, it takes them That long just for some 310m building.
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Old March 30th, 2008, 01:19 AM   #751
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just becuae i dont liek the freedom tower doesnt mean i dont like any tower in the US. and for your info. i live in chicago. i guess even voice your own opinion.

it's funny that u say that cuz you said that about the russian tower.

and the reason i say this is a joke, because this tower was proposed or approved for got what it was exactly and that was back in November, 2003. and its going to be done by 2012. now thats a joke, it takes them That long just for some 310m building.
Well then you dont know how hard it is for a skyscraper to get approved in London. Just take a look at the other LDN projects
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Old March 30th, 2008, 02:18 AM   #752
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now thats a joke, it takes them That long just for some 310m building.
No. This isn't just 'some' building... It is going to be more expensive than the Freedom Tower, and the same price as the Burj Dubai, £2bn ($4bn). The price tag alone shows that this won't just be 'some 310m building'.

This is London's premiere skyscraper project, and the first supertall building in the UK. It has come up against alot of opposition from different people, and has had funding issues for a long time, which are thankfully now sorted out. It takes a long time for London to build skyscrapers, but when they do them, they do them right, just look at this, which is now full steam ahead, and Swiss Re in the past too.
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Old March 30th, 2008, 04:29 AM   #753
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In my view, the design is stunning and most elegant. It's sleek and modern: it soars gracefully and yet it's bold and virile. An outstanding skyscraper.

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Old March 30th, 2008, 05:23 AM   #754
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The Shard, The Pinnacle, 122 Leadenhall, The Walkie Talkie, The Gherkin

Those are/will be some of the best skyscraper designs in the world, far better than most American 'box' cities. And don't get started with 'oh my skyline is far better than yours'. Of course they are, London is terribly hard to get tall buildings approved, but the architectural quality of ours is/will be so much better,
The walkie talkie? Your joking right?
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Old March 30th, 2008, 06:36 AM   #755
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The Shard, The Pinnacle, 122 Leadenhall, The Walkie Talkie, The Gherkin

Those are/will be some of the best skyscraper designs in the world, far better than most American 'box' cities. And don't get started with 'oh my skyline is far better than yours'. Of course they are, London is terribly hard to get tall buildings approved, but the architectural quality of ours is/will be so much better,
Great idea: don't get us started with the 'oh my skyline' crap.
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Old March 30th, 2008, 10:09 AM   #756
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The Shard, The Pinnacle, 122 Leadenhall, The Walkie Talkie, The Gherkin

Those are/will be some of the best skyscraper designs in the world, far better than most American 'box' cities. And don't get started with 'oh my skyline is far better than yours'. Of course they are, London is terribly hard to get tall buildings approved, but the architectural quality of ours is/will be so much better,
Is the Pinnacle the same as Bishopsgate Tower? That one is outstanding!

Renzo Piano did some excellent buildings, oh yeah Renzo did NY Times!!! (HUGE SPIRE!!)
The shard is a unique building, I see no similar designs anywhere else, I hope for a few more feet, but the present height is a real supertall.

I wonder where you get 'American box city'??? NYC is quite SPIREY if you ask me only LA is completely devoid of spires

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Old March 30th, 2008, 10:55 AM   #757
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The Shard, The Pinnacle, 122 Leadenhall, The Walkie Talkie, The Gherkin

Those are/will be some of the best skyscraper designs in the world, far better than most American 'box' cities. And don't get started with 'oh my skyline is far better than yours'. Of course they are, London is terribly hard to get tall buildings approved, but the architectural quality of ours is/will be so much better,
Thats your opinion about architecture, not more and for me a great silly joke!!
London has in my view with exceptions lousy unremarkable skysrapers, from the desing and also from the heights, the bridge tower is maybe for London relations not bad, also not from the height, but in comparison with other world towns, 300meters and the theatre around this shed is a little bit ridiculous, and almost not mentionable, incredible, how great is the exaggerated opinion of oneself by british people, they mean they rule the world.
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Thats your opinion about architecture, not more and for me a great silly joke!!
London has in my view with exceptions lousy unremarkable skysrapers, from the desing and also from the heights, the bridge tower is maybe for London relations not bad, also not from the height, but in comparison with other world towns, 300meters and the theatre around this shed is a little bit ridiculous, and almost not mentionable, incredible, how great is the exaggerated opinion of oneself by british people, they mean they rule the world.
(Sorry if I get anything wrong here, but I can barely even understand what you are saying.)


Like I said, this won't just be 'some' building. It will cost something similar to the Burj Dubai, $1bn more than the Freedom Tower, New York's premiere skyscraper project. What does that say to you? To me it says we take design and quality over height any day, and that this will be an amazing building, surpassing most over skyscraper projects once completed.

Swiss Re is the first remarkable skyscraper we have had. A taster of what is to come. And now, thanks to her, we are getting some of the best schemes, and certainly some of the most high quality and remarkable, in the world. The Shard, the Pinnacle, 122 Leadenhall, Strata... even the Walkie Talkie, which is by no means to everybody's tastes, but it is nothing if not remarkable.
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Old March 30th, 2008, 05:29 PM   #759
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London is a colossus, and has been so for many years. It is perhaps the worlds preminent place to live and work. There is no exaggerated opinion, London is infinite.

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Old March 30th, 2008, 09:23 PM   #760
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In terms of a Global City, London has only one rival in New York. There is an international body, the GaWC, that reviews and measures the influence of cities on global matters. Under their criteria only London & NY have the 'Very Large Contribution' grade. It has long been a wonder why such an important city with the highest property proices in the world has not gone more high-rise. Historical & geological matters are I believe the main influences. The Prince of Wales' recent comments on the Shard show the strength of feeling that run through the country when ever a new skyscraper is planned for London. Until recently it was almost impossible to build a large, tall tower in Central London due to the proximity to the Thames, it's flood plain and the deep clay that dominates the local geology. Technology has moved on, so that now it is possible, just very expensive. As a result London has relatively few tall buildings, but what there is are of a very high standard as demanded by the costs to build them. The Shard will be London's first supertall, but others will slowly follow.
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