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Old August 17th, 2008, 09:20 PM   #961
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Thanks wjfox for clearing that up.

Dequal, interesting story.

Wjfox, forgive me my flawed english, but what does WTF stand for? Or is this another nickname for The London Bridge Tower?

Thanks in advance.
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Old August 17th, 2008, 09:24 PM   #962
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It stands for What the ****. As if you didn't know! We're getting closer to this starting construction all the time, it will be a day of dancing banana's when this starts.
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Old August 17th, 2008, 09:29 PM   #963
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There are still 2 years until the core rises. To be honest, I wish people would stop bumping this thread all the time.
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Old August 17th, 2008, 09:29 PM   #964
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I know what the words mean. I just didn't know the abbreviation. But thanks anyway.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:43 PM   #965
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I'm on the team bringing this to life.

I'm so proud that Qatar is a part of this historical project.

The five groups involved are Qatar National Bank, Qatar Islamic Bank, Q-Invest, QIA and Sellars
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 05:20 PM   #966
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Is this the longest running supertall project in the history of high rises,was it like first concieved in the late 90,s or something??whats with the delay,is it the same when you build infastructure and other construction projects cause if thats the case the british economy should be on its death bed by now.
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 06:41 PM   #967
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Is this the longest running supertall project in the history of high rises,was it like first concieved in the late 90,s or something??whats with the delay,is it the same when you build infastructure and other construction projects cause if thats the case the british economy should be on its death bed by now.
Our government are working hard on that one. They should have our economy devastated very shortly
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 08:57 PM   #968
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bullshit.
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 09:01 PM   #969
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Is this the longest running supertall project in the history of high rises,was it like first concieved in the late 90,s or something??whats with the delay,is it the same when you build infastructure and other construction projects cause if thats the case the british economy should be on its death bed by now.
ohh,for ****s sake.
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Old August 24th, 2008, 03:29 PM   #970
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I'm on the team bringing this to life.

I'm so proud that Qatar is a part of this historical project.

The five groups involved are Qatar National Bank, Qatar Islamic Bank, Q-Invest, QIA and Sellars
Very cool! You make sure this happens now
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Old August 25th, 2008, 12:15 AM   #971
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Atleast this will be up for the Olympics, I don't think a lot of people who are excited about the London games really understand how different London will look come two thousand and twelve. I agree that this thread should be dormant until it starts construction.
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Old August 25th, 2008, 03:12 PM   #972
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From what I saw last week, the demolition is going well. From Tower Hill, the demolition was just still visible behind the building in front.

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Old August 25th, 2008, 07:52 PM   #973
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I'm serious,look at the amount of posts and views on the uk forum,all this before a block has been laid,talk about been over eager,dont get me wrong the design is superb,but gime a break.
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Old August 26th, 2008, 02:33 PM   #974
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Be fair cubix, the shard will be tallest building ever constructed in the UK. It'll be the first and only supertall and probably wont be surpassed for quite a long time. If it was the same in whichever country you live in, your forumers would be reacting in the same way. The Shard is a real landmark development and could open the doors for more skyscrapers in an area of London that so far has none (Southwark that is, I know the City has two).
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Old August 26th, 2008, 03:26 PM   #975
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This will no doubt lead the way to more super talls in London.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 02:00 AM   #976
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Don't forget it's been an ongoing saga for the best part of a decade, what with planning obstacles, then funding problems etc etc. so of course there has been much chatter about it in the UK forum.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 06:35 AM   #977
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london bridge + tower bridge = London Bridge Tower, all sounds the same

cant fight with the british, looks ok.....

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Old September 11th, 2008, 11:58 AM   #978
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Mace set to discover if price on Shard of Glass is right for client

The developer on the Shard of Glass scheme in London will decide by the beginning of next month whether Mace's latest price to build the tower is good enough.

Mace is due to put in its quote for the job this week - believed to be around £400 million on a fixed-price contract - with a decision expected to be made at a board meeting of client Teighmore early next month.

The take-it-or-leave-it offer is the third time Mace has come up with a price on the job - after being forced to amend its original figures when Teighmore sounded out Laing O'Rourke last autumn to come up with an amount that met its budget.

At £400 million, the number is at least £50 million more than the £350 million widely believed to be Mace's price first time around.

But it is understood this is down from the cost earlier this year, which sources said had escalated to £450 million.

The bid is being submitted to Bernard Ainsworth, the man in charge of the whole development in which the Shard sits - London Bridge Quarter - as well as project manager Turner & Townsend.

One source said: "They will be making some sort of decision by early October.

"They've spent so much on demolition already, I can't see it not going ahead."

Teighmore has already asked steelwork contractor Cleveland Bridge and cladding firm Scheldebouw to lock down prices for their respective packages ahead of work beginning in earnest next year.

CBUK has begun ordering the first amount of the required 12,000 tonnes of steel from Corus in order to reserve capacity.

Mace's latest bid comes after months of negotiations to get prices on some of the key subcontract packages down on the 310 m-high building which will go up above London Bridge railway station.

John Doyle has been lined up to carry out the concrete work, which carries a price tag of £50 million over 30 months.

The M&E contract has also caused Teighmore - which is made up of four Qatari banks and Sellar Property Group - problems. Hotchkiss and Phoenix are understood to be lined up for the split deal.

One source said: "Mace has kept shifting around £15 million worth of work between packages. It's been more of a logistics thing than about saving money.

"I think what Teighmore wants is a set price, rather than needing to know what the price is."

Piling firm Stent is due to start work on the job at the beginning of next year once Keltbray has completed demolition and groundworks. The building is due to be finished by March 2012.



Analysis: Rejection of bid will raise fresh doubts

By David Rogers

It was nearly eight years ago that Bovis Lend Lease was appointed to project manage construction of the Shard.

A lot has happened since - Wembley Stadium got built; London won the right to host the Olympics - but the Shard has resolutely refused to come out of the ground.

Yes, the building it will replace is being torn down and subbies are finally being appointed to key packages. But no one is craning their necks to peer skywards. Not yet anyway.

While it might not be the end of the line for the job if Mace's bid gets turned down, the consequences of such a decision would lead more and more to question whether, after nearly a decade in gestation, the thing ever gets off the ground.

Teighmore wants it built by 2012 and it's easy to see why. The eyes of the world will be on the capital later that summer and the Shard will be a stand-out structure. It would be great if it got built.


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Old September 11th, 2008, 12:19 PM   #979
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nice post, i'm just new here, and i found the contents rich
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Old September 13th, 2008, 12:40 AM   #980
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For me it is a bit too similar to Russia Tower :P
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