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Old March 18th, 2009, 09:29 PM   #1281
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But it is totally out of scale...clusters work much better.
Would the Eiffel Tower work better in a cluster?

No, it wouldn't, and this is the same. It needs room to breathe. If it was obstructed by loads of other buildings, we would be unable to fully admire what will be one of the best skyscrapers in the world.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 09:31 PM   #1282
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Design is beautiful. I don't know though how it will fit in London's skyline.
It's going to totally change the London skyline... It doesn't need to fit in. No supertall would fit in, unless maybe it was built out in Canary Wharf.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 09:57 PM   #1283
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Nice renderings!

It's strange though, it seems on those that there's much more than a 4m difference between the top of the coolers floors and the tip of the spires.

If a floor is about 3.5 to 4m high, it looks like there's about 6 to 8 floor height or 20 to 25m between the top of coolers floors and the tip of the tower. There must be something wrong in the renderings.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 10:50 PM   #1284
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first pile went in yesterday guys. this is a quantum leap forward in terms of London's development.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 12:23 AM   #1285
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Would the Eiffel Tower work better in a cluster?

No, it wouldn't, and this is the same. It needs room to breathe. If it was obstructed by loads of other buildings, we would be unable to fully admire what will be one of the best skyscrapers in the world.
swiss re also would look much better on its own... but theyre still ruining it
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Old March 19th, 2009, 01:11 AM   #1286
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Swiss Re would have looked good on it's own, but it was built in the center of the main district... no chance of it saying so visible forever.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 01:13 AM   #1287
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Nice renderings!

It's strange though, it seems on those that there's much more than a 4m difference between the top of the coolers floors and the tip of the spires.

If a floor is about 3.5 to 4m high, it looks like there's about 6 to 8 floor height or 20 to 25m between the top of coolers floors and the tip of the tower. There must be something wrong in the renderings.
Yes, the renders are quite confusing. I'm just going off what's officially been said.

Frankly I wouldn't mind the plant floors finishing lower... It would make the top look sharper and more refined IMO, like it does in the renders.

Either way, it doesn't matter Fact is this baby is going up, after so bloody long...
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Old March 19th, 2009, 01:30 AM   #1288
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Just dropping in. This project kind of reminds me of Montparnasse in Paris. Not in its architecture, but in the way it will stand out and also act as a transit hub. This will look amazing from the London Eye.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 01:40 AM   #1289
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first pile went in yesterday guys. this is a quantum leap forward in terms of London's development.
You know that a quantum leap is actually something very very small right?
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Old March 19th, 2009, 01:50 AM   #1290
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You know that a quantum leap is actually something very very small right?
Tell that to Sam Beckett.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 02:23 AM   #1291
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Looks similar to the Russia Tower.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 02:41 AM   #1292
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Yep, mabe the same Architect..
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Old March 19th, 2009, 03:10 AM   #1293
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great pics.
ive scaled this elevation and roof = 270m. (above radiator section).

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Old March 19th, 2009, 04:07 AM   #1294
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Looks similar to the Russia Tower.
Don't start that again, I think WJFox is probably getting a bit sick of explaining it

It wasn't the same architect. This was designed long before the Russia Tower.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #1295
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Would the Eiffel Tower work better in a cluster?

No, it wouldn't, and this is not the same. It needs room to breathe. If it was obstructed by loads of other buildings, we would be unable to fully admire what will be one of the best skyscrapers in the world.
Come on the Eiffel Tower hardly has the mass of a building and and actually sits as an iconic monument within the city - thee focul point. Somehow it works...look at the future London sky line - where is the focal point?....Canary Wharf Cluster....the City...then the Shard - all so disparate. I mean, how are we meant to read that skyline....? Then you have the London Eye....and where is St Pauls in all of this?

All the great cities have composed skylines: Hong Kong, New York, San Francisco, Singapore....I think Dubai will get there where there is scale in proximity given to the Burj...
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Old March 19th, 2009, 01:24 PM   #1296
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London is huge enough to have several clusters, several one off iconic towers, and all manner of different skyline views.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 01:41 PM   #1297
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Old March 19th, 2009, 03:07 PM   #1298
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swiss re also would look much better on its own... but theyre still ruining it
wat u mean on its own? u mean swiss re being around low rises or u mean multiple number of swiss res?
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Old March 19th, 2009, 05:05 PM   #1299
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It's not called Swiss Re anymore btw guys
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why should i mean "multiple numbers of swiss res"?

no i mean surrounded by low rises ;-) thats what they should have done, maybe 10 very nice and high skyscrapers all over the centre, but with a lot of space between the towers.
thats how the mixture and contrast between old (low rise) and new (high rise) would have looked the best and most interesting imo. (and you would still have a cluster at canary wharf). thats my suggestion for london, but i dont think that such a decentralised skyline would work anywhere else. it really needs a dense and urban lowrise downtown. mayvbe paris but im strongly against towers in the old parts there...
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