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Old November 10th, 2009, 07:11 PM   #1761
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It will reach its full height at the end of 2010, and the whole thing will be complete by May 2012.

With this awesome speed, how can they finish the construction by the end of 2010? 2100, let's wait and see
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Old November 10th, 2009, 08:01 PM   #1762
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What are you on about? The preparation works are done, this thing will fly up at, as you said, an awesome speed. So we will wait and see, and the 'see' relates to a towering structure that will dominate the skyline when topped out in a year's time.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 08:13 PM   #1763
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dominate the skyline
The Pinnacle's only 22 meters shorter and a bit fatter.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 08:43 PM   #1764
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But the Pinnacle won't be topped out until late 2012, so this will dominate the skyline for 2 years. It will have the same sort of impact when it's built, but the Shard will be fully complete before the Pinnacle is even topped out.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 09:38 PM   #1765
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Old November 10th, 2009, 10:39 PM   #1766
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The construction progress of this tower is another indicator that Britain has become a second/third class country
its plantpot comments like this that keeps most UK forumers off the world threads and firmly ensconced with contributive and positive forum members in their own local threads.

Talk a walk bucko and don't come back.

this is momentous day for the Shard and London.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 10:47 PM   #1767
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The construction progress of this tower is another indicator that Britain has become a second/third class country
What the hell are you talking about? I suggest you go and have a look at the Freedom Tower thread and get yourself a clue. You obviously haven't got one at the minute.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:06 PM   #1768
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What the hell are you talking about? I suggest you go and have a look at the Freedom Tower thread and get yourself a clue. You obviously haven't got one at the minute.
how can you compare freedom tower to this? I think it's you who obviously haven't got a clue. lowwwww

this is a nice looking building although
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:09 PM   #1769
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Just got my Popular Science in the mail, it has a little blurb about this building saying that they have found a way to construct the above ground and below ground at the same time, saving 7 months of construction time. Anyone want me to scan and post it?
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:17 PM   #1770
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how can you compare freedom tower to this? I think it's you who obviously haven't got a clue. lowwwww

this is a nice looking building although
Nothing 'lowwwww' about it, the Freedom Tower is taking longer to do less. Yes, there are reasons for that. But according to Howelee, reasons don't matter and the speed you construct your supertalls is a measure of how good your country is
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:18 PM   #1771
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Actually, I'll just write it here, it's very short...

Popular Science - December 2009

"Renzo Piano's 72-storie glass tower in London, expected to be the tallest building in Western Europe when it opens in 2012, employs a bold new method that could speed the construction of tomorrow's skyscrapers: Build the tower and dig the basement at the same time. A custom deep-diving rig put the tower's structural columns into the ground before excavation took place, so one construction crew can dig the basement-which otherwise puts everyone else on hold-while another installs elevators, staircases and mechanical fixtures on top of the columns. Engineer Bob Gordon of the Mace Group estimates that the technique will save seven months of construction time."
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:20 PM   #1772
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Hear that, howelee?
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:34 PM   #1773
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Nothing 'lowwwww' about it, the Freedom Tower is taking longer to do less. Yes, there are reasons for that. But according to Howelee, reasons don't matter and the speed you construct your supertalls is a measure of how good your country is
to do less? wake up and smell a coffee
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:37 PM   #1774
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Happy to see that things are progressing very well here..
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:40 PM   #1775
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Finally we'll have supertall in Western Europe and these guys even come here trolling around. Well, who cares about them?

Those steels columns are great!
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:52 PM   #1776
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It looked like this three weeks ago:



The progress on this is fast.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 12:56 AM   #1777
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The point here is apperance of speed. The groundworks of the Shard were completed in 9 months. The Freedom Tower has taken years to get out of the ground. This, of course, is because of the hideous complexity of the project and the political and financial hoops this project has had to jump through, not a slight on America, or their construction techniques. Some ignorant person seemed to indicate the Shard will take forever to build and 'therefore' the UK was a 2nd/3rd class country. Newcastle Lad was pointing out that the class of your country is no indicator of construction speed. The Shard is rocketing up wheras the FT has taken its time in the US, clearly a 1st world country with an excellent construction pedigree. Get the point?
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Old November 11th, 2009, 01:17 AM   #1778
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Exactly, it's not meant to be a dig at the USA or at the Freedom Tower.

It's a dig at howelee.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 02:15 AM   #1779
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-A large Shangri La Hotel
-The heighest observation deck in the UK.

There is a huge incentive to get this thing done in time for the Olympics, so I'm not suprised about its construction speed.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 03:38 PM   #1780
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its plantpot comments like this that keeps most UK forumers off the world threads and firmly ensconced with contributive and positive forum members in their own local threads.

Talk a walk bucko and don't come back.

this is momentous day for the Shard and London.
not that the uk threads are much better but i agree, jimbo. i just had to trawl about 3 pages of useless irrelevance to see actual news/ photos. same old. i'm just glad i'm not too busy like most people to bother trawling through this stuff.


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Those outer columns now climb as high as the frame. If they keep this pace up, we'll be seeing the Shard start to appear on the skyline before long.

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