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Old March 10th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #20421
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How are workers getting up to the higher floors? Are there any make shift temporary internal elevators working at this point or do people ride the external freight elevators?

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There are no external freight elevators, they are used to carry people....freight goes on cranes...no?
The elevators on the West side are for people, those go only partway up. The rest of the way there are temp elevators inside.

The outside elevators on the East side are for freight, those go all the way up. On the HD cam you can see them unloading all kinds of stuff including window units.

The cranes are only for things too big/heavy for the elevators.
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Old March 10th, 2011, 08:00 PM   #20422
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I posted pages ago that as the building grows I would assume that it would also slow down at each time the core changes, how often does this happen? Does the core continually change or does it go 10 floors then change, 2 floors, 20?
and does it really change the pace at all?
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Old March 10th, 2011, 11:04 PM   #20423
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What a load of crap talk there. Wasnt the former Windows on the World restaurant the highest grossing restaurant in the country in its last full year of business? Bloody Shame tbh.

But when you think about it, where would all the kitchen equipment (stove tops, ovens, fridge units) and tables and chairs go? wont the core of the building take most of the floor space up on those higher levels? considering the area size of this proposed restaurant is nearly half the floor area space of the former Window on the World restaurant. There would be a significant reduction of the amount of space. Maybe its not feasible to have a restaurant in that small configure of space possibly. All these questions. Maybe Zen could provide the floor diagrams for floor that the proposed resteraunt will be on. Floor 101 i think it is.
The core tapers as the building rises, since the core will be carrying a much smaller load at the upper floors. By reducing the core size, you get more square footage.
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Old March 10th, 2011, 11:56 PM   #20424
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Also the kitchen and various services would be housed in the core anyways.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 12:30 AM   #20425
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I think high-floor restaurants aren't going to be on the menu (sorry) for supertalls, at least not in this country. Restaurants need their own passenger elevator, plus they have to bring up large supplies of food and send down large quantities of waste of all kinds, which necessitates their own freight elevator as well. When you consider what you can rent out an office with that kind of view, without the increased maintenance and fire insurance costs it doesn't make sense.

We've got a bunch of tall buildings here in Jersey City, almost all of them less than 20 years old. None of them have high floor restaurants despite having a great view of the Manhattan skyline. Even the W Hotel in Hoboken doesn't have one.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 01:30 AM   #20426
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I unfortunately agree. Pittsburgh lost its restaurant at the top of the US Steel tower for that exact reason.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 02:48 AM   #20427
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I ate at the View restaurant in the Marriot Hotel last week, but the whole view was blocked by other buildings, but man expensive it was.
I have never been to the Windows of the World but really ashame they don't restart a restaurant. Of course it's expensive but they can charge triple if not more to there costumers than other restaurants.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 03:22 AM   #20428
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The CN Tower has a cafe and restaurant, but it also only has 5 public floors. It's also not an office tower with rentable space, as stated before.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 03:30 AM   #20429
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Old March 11th, 2011, 06:53 AM   #20430
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Another monumental building is rising after a deadly storm - the 1wtc.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 12:04 PM   #20431
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Freakin awesome pics guys! Makes me miss NYC even more, but great to be able to keep up to date, visually, with the rising of this beautiful tower, much props!
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Old March 11th, 2011, 12:14 PM   #20432
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So close to 7WTC, this is so exciting
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Old March 11th, 2011, 06:16 PM   #20433
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can anyone give me a definitive answer on how many floors this building is going to have?
Just watched the fox report and the guy on there said 104 floors, but on this site it says 108? The actual building height not the spire will be the exact same height as the twin towers wont it? regardless of how many floors right ?

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Old March 11th, 2011, 11:09 PM   #20434
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That second to last picture... Epic. Imagine what that spot'll look like by this time next year
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Old March 11th, 2011, 11:41 PM   #20435
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can anyone give me a definitive answer on how many floors this building is going to have?
Just watched the fox report and the guy on there said 104 floors, but on this site it says 108? The actual building height not the spire will be the exact same height as the twin towers wont it? regardless of how many floors right ?
There's not a definitive answer to your questions. There are floors that actually don't exist (for example the ones in the base 1-19). And I think they are some symbolic floors, like the ones in the Communication Ring (108-109-110).

Anyways, the exact number of structural-floors can be given by Zen.

As for your second question, the parapet will mark the same height as the original twins (1361' and1368') (415m-417)

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Old March 12th, 2011, 12:08 AM   #20436
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Anybody know if the earthcam portal is still offering high def images? The only ones I get are about 1/4 the size of what they used to be. If anyone has a link to the high def pictures I'd appreciate it.
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Old March 12th, 2011, 12:21 AM   #20437
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It's been 9.5 years today and they have done quite alot of progress.

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Old March 12th, 2011, 12:22 AM   #20438
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I posted pages ago that as the building grows I would assume that it would also slow down at each time the core changes, how often does this happen? Does the core continually change or does it go 10 floors then change, 2 floors, 20?
and does it really change the pace at all?
I never actually counted the number of times the core changes shape but I think it's more than 20 times. I don't see this slowing things down but speeding things up. It gets smaller, less rebar to set and less concrete.

PS: it gets considerably smaller at the 20th floor and is not the giant we all saw before being hidden from view. There have been several reductions since.

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can anyone give me a definitive answer on how many floors this building is going to have?
Just watched the fox report and the guy on there said 104 floors, but on this site it says 108? The actual building height not the spire will be the exact same height as the twin towers wont it? regardless of how many floors right ?
I actually sat down and counted the number of actual floors and came up with 94. On the drawings there is actually a level inside the spire labeled floor 110, I'm sure it's purely symbolic.

The top of the parapet will be the same hight as the North Tower. 1,368 feet.
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Old March 12th, 2011, 12:43 AM   #20439
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There you go, thanks Zen.

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Came across this today. It's a tad old, but gives an idea of the last 40 odd years of progress here.

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