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Old June 10th, 2011, 01:48 AM   #22761
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^Perhaps the elevator is too narrow to introduce pieces of any of both cranes... Here's where Zen would have answered your question.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 01:57 AM   #22762
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This complex will help NY display a more 'modern' image to the world. I really think NY needs to modernize it's infrastructure. As the most important city in the USA, it is a little bit strange that it has been so neglected when it comes to infrastructure investment for so long. You'd think America would like to showcase their most important tourist gateway and ensure that its infrastructure is advanced, yet it seems that much of America wants NY to fail no matter the consequences for the country's image. For example, why do NY's roads look worse than those in developing countries? I was in Shanghai and the roads are pristine, not to mention Tokyo or Germany. Even African poor cities like Kampala have decent pavement. I can see a great push for modernization once the US learns that it is no longer the world #1. Complacency leads to decline. The US needs a kick in the rear.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 02:36 AM   #22763
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This complex will help NY display a more 'modern' image to the world. I really think NY needs to modernize it's infrastructure. As the most important city in the USA, it is a little bit strange that it has been so neglected when it comes to infrastructure investment for so long. You'd think America would like to showcase their most important tourist gateway and ensure that its infrastructure is advanced, yet it seems that much of America wants NY to fail no matter the consequences for the country's image. For example, why do NY's roads look worse than those in developing countries? I was in Shanghai and the roads are pristine, not to mention Tokyo or Germany. Even African poor cities like Kampala have decent pavement. I can see a great push for modernization once the US learns that it is no longer the world #1. Complacency leads to decline. The US needs a kick in the rear.
Your post has nothing to do with One World Trade center, take it somewhere else.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 03:17 AM   #22764
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About level with the Woolworth Building.
It's already taller than the Woolworth.



Aquablue! what the **** are you talking about, please go away.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 03:23 AM   #22765
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Your post has nothing to do with One World Trade center, take it somewhere else.
I disagree, image is of vital importance, and WTC is paving the way for a rejuvenated NYC and perhaps is the first sign of a real push to modernize the infrastructure of a city that has been falling apart for years. Really, do you think WTC is just an isolated building or is it part of an interconnected web of factors that affect NYC. If we can't talk about it here, there is nowhere one can.

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Old June 10th, 2011, 03:26 AM   #22766
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Aquablue! what the **** are you talking about, please go away.
We have the new cyber bully, now, do we? Nice language pal.

Have you been to Kampala, Nairobi, Moscow, Shanghai? I think it is quite fair to be disgusted with the quality of modern infrastructure in NYC in comparison to other cities that have a 'developing' label attached to them. NYC is the most important city in the USA, and you have roads that look like Kandahar, full of holes and patches. That is just the tip of the iceberg my aggressive friend.

You must be too deluded to notice how far behind NY really is when it comes to projecting an image of a modern city. It has a lot of work to do, and WTC will help its image, but only superficially. You can say my point is irrelevant, but that is to deny the facts at hand. Very few people around the world consider NYC 'modern;. It is known for its decaying infrastructure and urban issues along with all the great culture art and commerce that attract millions. Hopefully we'll see a reversal soon enough starting with this development as NY deserves far better hardware.

I am saying something positive my friend, yet you attack me. Typical. Well, I hope you start looking around the world, because NY has a lot of catching up to do when it comes to infrastructure whether you agree or not.

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Old June 10th, 2011, 03:45 AM   #22767
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you done talking out of your ass? Good now let stay on topic.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 03:47 AM   #22768
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you done talking out of your ass? Good now let stay on topic.
Wow, i guess they were right about the rudeness part...

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Old June 10th, 2011, 04:02 AM   #22769
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What infrastructure are you talking about specifically? Are you talking about all five boroughs or Manhattan only?

When it comes to roads, there are some freeways that are in admittedly poor condition (parts of the BQE, for example) but to compare it to Kandahar is going a bit too far. Because Manhattan is such a constrained area, the FDR drive and the West Side Highway (which goes around the perimeter of the island) is the only highway to begin with, and it is a decent roadway. Local roads are in varying conditions, but these roads are not a realistic way to travel by in Manhattan anyways due to frequent traffic lights.

While other cities have room for expansion, greater NYC has no room for expansion which is why there are so many skyscrapers on the island in the first place.

As for the subway system, it is one of the oldest and largest in the world. I personally use the NYC subway system every day and I have rarely found a reason to complain about it.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 05:35 AM   #22770
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What infrastructure are you talking about specifically? Are you talking about all five boroughs or Manhattan only?

When it comes to roads, there are some freeways that are in admittedly poor condition (parts of the BQE, for example) but to compare it to Kandahar is going a bit too far. Because Manhattan is such a constrained area, the FDR drive and the West Side Highway (which goes around the perimeter of the island) is the only highway to begin with, and it is a decent roadway. Local roads are in varying conditions, but these roads are not a realistic way to travel by in Manhattan anyways due to frequent traffic lights.

While other cities have room for expansion, greater NYC has no room for expansion which is why there are so many skyscrapers on the island in the first place.

As for the subway system, it is one of the oldest and largest in the world. I personally use the NYC subway system every day and I have rarely found a reason to complain about it.
Just ignore him, please. He will reply to you now and continue with this completely irrelevant conversation.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 06:30 AM   #22771
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Please don't make it beyond repair...


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Old June 10th, 2011, 06:59 AM   #22772
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Wow, I thought one could coment freely and respectfully on whatever one chose. I've seen much barring of people's opinions here lately even though I have never myself written anything in this page.. anyways, good looking WTC!
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Old June 10th, 2011, 07:59 AM   #22773
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Aquablue is actually making a valid point, guys.
And toren, good to see you here again.. I was beginning to wonder where you'd gone.
Aqua, where are you from? Because it is important that you understand that just because something needs improving, doesn't mean it will get it. The largest problem is financial, and I'm sure the state of NY would be improving its roadways if it had the funds.. its not like they are just ignorant on the whole matter.
And unfortunately, this is not something the federal govt. pumps money into (maybe fortunately ).
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Old June 10th, 2011, 08:34 AM   #22774
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As for the subway system, it is one of the oldest and largest in the world. I personally use the NYC subway system every day and I have rarely found a reason to complain about it.
Sorry sir, you are wrong there. London's U is the oldest, and Boston's T is the oldest in the US.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 08:43 AM   #22775
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...he didn't say it was THE oldest, but ONE of the oldest....
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Old June 10th, 2011, 09:31 AM   #22776
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The oldest subway is in Brooklyn built in 1844.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 10:49 AM   #22777
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The oldest subway is in Brooklyn built in 1844.
Yes, but it is not currently connected to any used rails, nor in use today. The old U tunnel and the Park Street Subway are both used heavily today.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 12:39 PM   #22778
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Question: with two cranes on top of this tower rising with it how do they get them down? I suppose one can be lifted down by the other, but then how do they get the last one off the top of the topped off tower? Do they lift it off with helicopters?
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They will put another smaller up which will take the big one down..The smaller one can be lowered with elevators or BMU..
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^Perhaps the elevator is too narrow to introduce pieces of any of both cranes... Here's where Zen would have answered your question.
When building tops out, and there's nothing more to do with the cranes, one crane disassemble another one, and takes it down..Then a crane which is left lower itself as much as it's possible and lift smaller one, Derrick crane, up..

Derrick crane disassemble the tower crane and takes it down..BMU (Building maintenance unit) is a platform for window washing and it's used to take Derrick crane down when job is done..

This is Derrick crane..

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Old June 10th, 2011, 12:56 PM   #22779
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thunder storms are predicted today hope does not slow down any process.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 01:46 PM   #22780
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Please don't make it beyond repair...

Wow, it's going to be stunning once it's completed!

Here's what my reaction will look like. Turn down your volume!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mH3tRJaXXk
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