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Old September 10th, 2007, 06:17 AM   #2261
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If it didn't warrant a response, why are you arguing what you interpret to be an 'ignorant' statement? Your incongruencies reveal the true source of ignorance...
your answer lies in #2262. you should really take a look at the most recent post of a thread before trying to be witty; just a suggestion.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 06:29 AM   #2262
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This of course is a classic case of people not knowing how to act when they finally receive that which has been denied them for an extended period of time. Congratulations on building a few towers taller than (700-800 ft). Furthermore, screw what the Council on Tall buildings and Urban Habitat says about including spires in the height of buildings, pound for pound, your tallest (FT) will still be shorter than Sears let alone the Chi Spire. So you mean to tell me after over 25 years, your soon to be tallest still comes up shorter than Chicago's soon to be 2nd tallest? How much clearer do you want? I think someone said it best when they gave the illustration of placing a 3000ft spire on their garage which would technically qualify as WTB by the aforementioned council's criteria. This is of course obsurd...

And by the way Mantle, I read that post well before I responded to your original rhetoric.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 06:36 AM   #2263
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lmao knightwing isn't going to make many friends here
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Old September 10th, 2007, 06:47 AM   #2264
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lmao knightwing isn't going to make many friends here
Yep, I'm just waiting on them to fix SSP...
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Old September 10th, 2007, 06:49 AM   #2265
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This of course is a classic case of people not knowing how to act when they finally receive that which has been denied them for an extended period of time. Congratulations on building a few towers taller than (700-800 ft). Furthermore, screw what the Council on Tall buildings and Urban Habitat says about including spires in the height of buildings, pound for pound, your tallest (FT) will still be shorter than Sears let alone the Chi Spire. So you mean to tell me after over 25 years, your soon to be tallest still comes up shorter than Chicago's soon to be 2nd tallest? How much clearer do you want? I think someone said it best when they gave the illustration of placing a 3000ft spire on their garage which would technically qualify as WTB by the aforementioned council's criteria. This is of course obsurd...

And by the way Mantle, I read that post well before I responded to your original rhetoric.
the cranky child comes out of the closet, i love it. chicago is going to stay second fiddle to NYC, alpha status and skyline, for as long as the two stand, so just kill yourself now.



no disrespect to any other chicagoans (nians/ites?), this guy's just hilarious.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 06:53 AM   #2266
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^ Poor Tammy Faye. God bless her. She looked like the Crypt Keeper in that interview with Larry King.
Didn't she die like hours after the interview. She looks dead in that avatar!
R.I.P.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 06:57 AM   #2267
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Can't wait to see how people will react when all the new NY supertalls start coming to light.

Back OT, the core has even more rebar now.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:02 AM   #2268
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Can't wait to see how people will react when all the new NY supertalls start coming to light.

Back OT, the core has even more rebar now.
i really can't wait for the renders of the msg twins. shit, i'll even take massing models. i'm just waiting to see if it's as huge as promised, because that's all the plan needs to make people FLIP.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:04 AM   #2269
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no disrespect to any other chicagoans (nians/ites?), this guy's just hilarious.
Actually I'm from New York...
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:07 AM   #2270
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Well Somerville, NJ but close enough.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:17 AM   #2271
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:18 AM   #2272
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somerville jersey? gee whiz... i no longer care about what you have to say regarding, erm, anything.

- i guess you win, cheers.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:23 AM   #2273
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my thought process = "get ******* pataki away from that", "why is libeskind still relevant?", and "LOL maki" - it took me about 10 seconds to notice and i actually laughed out loud.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:24 AM   #2274
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Well NY does dominate over Chicago in other aspects. Winning baseball teams. Real, non-middle America culture. Water that isn't poisoned with mercury. Five skylines (downtown, midtown, NJ, Queens, and most importantly, Brooklyn). You guys even stole Al Capone from us (yes, he grew up in the BK). Columbia beats UChi. By no means do you win the overall height battle, just because you have a few taller buildings. Plain and simple, you could fit multiple Chicago skylines in NY. By 2012, New York will have 7 supertalls (not including the new Madison Square Garden and Westside developments; and yes, 7 just like Mickey), while Chicago will have 6.

Regardless, we come from the same country, we shouldn't really compete. Chicago has a beautiful, elaborate skyline, the Sox did win somehow in '04, and I'll vote for Obama over Hillary. Plus, Common's new album is pretty good, even if it is sold in Starbucks.

Most importantly, NewYorkMantle is way a cooler name than Knightwing.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:25 AM   #2275
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- i guess you win, cheers.
I guess I do. Cheers to you too!
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:59 AM   #2276
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Well NY does dominate over Chicago in other aspects. Winning baseball teams. Real, non-middle America culture. Water that isn't poisoned with mercury. Five skylines (downtown, midtown, NJ, Queens, and most importantly, Brooklyn). You guys even stole Al Capone from us (yes, he grew up in the BK). Columbia beats UChi. By no means do you win the overall height battle, just because you have a few taller buildings. Plain and simple, you could fit multiple Chicago skylines in NY. By 2012, New York will have 7 supertalls (not including the new Madison Square Garden and Westside developments; and yes, 7 just like Mickey), while Chicago will have 6.

Regardless, we come from the same country, we shouldn't really compete. Chicago has a beautiful, elaborate skyline, the Sox did win somehow in '04, and I'll vote for Obama over Hillary. Plus, Common's new album is pretty good, even if it is sold in Starbucks.

Most importantly, NewYorkMantle is way a cooler name than Knightwing.
Absolutely, both cities do what they do exceptionally well. Its just crazy that pro NY for some automatically means anti Chi and vice versa. The reality is there are areas that NY wins over Chi and other areas that Chi wins over NY. For instance, shall we talk about winning basketball teams and cleanliness?!?
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Old September 10th, 2007, 08:18 AM   #2277
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> Sculptor Kenneth Snelson is working on the spire at the top of the building.
> The glass prisms at the base will each be 13-feet tall.
> The base of the tower will be 186-feet tall.
> The base of the tower will be 200-feet by 200-feet.
> The top of the tower will be 145-feet by 145-feet.
> The shaft of the tower will be 1,182 feet tall.
> The height of the base and shaft together will be 1,368 feet -- the height of the roof of 1 World Trade center.
> The main structure will be topped by a 408-foot-tall mast containing antennae. The base of the mast will be surrounded by a 145-foot wide ring containing more equipment.
> The overall height of the structure will be 1,776 feet -- a number symbolizing the year of America's Declaration of Independence.
> The building will have 2,600,000 square feet of rentable space.
> The trees surrounding the Freedom Tower will be sweetgum trees.
> 1st-19th floors - Podium
> 20th-63rd floors - Offices
> 64th floor - Sky lobby
> 65th - 88th floors - Offices
> 89th and 90th floors - Transmission equipment
> 91st - 100th floors - Mechanical
> 100th - 101st floors - Restaurant
> 102nd floor - Observation deck
> 103rd - 108th floors - Mechanical

>The spire will be an intense beam of light that will be lit at night and will likely be visible over a thousand feet (305 m) into the air above the tower. New York City is a suitable place to set such a light pointing towards the sky without complaints of light pollution by astronomers, as the night sky in locations near New York City is already far too bright for serious astronomical observers.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 09:08 AM   #2278
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I think the light beam into the sky is the coolest thing about the tower (although i do like the overall design, just wish the spire was a little bit more triangular). i can't wait until the first time I drive to New York after this is built and see the beat of light on the horizon, thats gonna be an incredible feeling.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 10:29 AM   #2279
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I think they should make another freedom tower, and give New York its Twin Tower skyline back
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Old September 10th, 2007, 10:38 AM   #2280
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I think they should make another freedom tower, and give New York its Twin Tower skyline back
Yes this opinion has already been established many times before.
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