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Old June 28th, 2011, 02:27 PM   #23381
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I can't quite tell, is that two more levels coming up, without the external beams first?
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Old June 28th, 2011, 02:51 PM   #23382
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This tower will be amazing and it looks very nice already, but do someone know when it's going to reach roof height?






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Old June 28th, 2011, 03:10 PM   #23383
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31m and LM will have a supertall again :-)
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Old June 28th, 2011, 04:58 PM   #23384
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List of tallest buildings in New York City

Empire State Building------------------1,250 ft. /381 m
Bank of America Tower-----------------1,200 ft. / 366 m
Chrysler Building-----------------------1,050 ft. / 320 m
New York Times Building---------------1,046 ft. / 319 m
American International Building-------952 ft. / 290 m
40 Wall Street-------------------------927 ft. / 283 m
Citigroup Center-----------------------915 ft. / 279 m
One WTC----------------------------880 ft. / 269 m (at the moment, to date)
what's the list look like if you use roof height?
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Old June 28th, 2011, 05:09 PM   #23385
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Old June 28th, 2011, 05:15 PM   #23386
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they grow up so fast!
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Old June 28th, 2011, 05:36 PM   #23387
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Its good to see the cladding going so well. Do people usually start occupying the lower floors before the whole tower is complete like ICC in Hong Kong?
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Old June 28th, 2011, 05:50 PM   #23388
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Lots of steel arrived this morning. We should see some new steel up today.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 07:36 PM   #23389
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what's the list look like if you use roof height?
By roof height:


Empire State Building------------------1,250 ft. / 381 m (antena spire: 1,454 ft / 443.2 m)
Bank of America Tower-----------------945 ft / 287.9 m
40 Wall Street-------------------------927 ft. / 283 m (no data for roof, only this one. And it doesn't exactly have an antenna)
Chrysler Building-----------------------925 ft / 282 m
Citigroup Center-----------------------915 ft. / 279 m
American International Building-------850 ft / 260 m
New York Times Building---------------748 ft / 228 m
One WTC----------------------------880 ft. / 269 m (at the moment, to date)
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Old June 28th, 2011, 07:41 PM   #23390
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what's the list look like if you use roof height?
I'd like to know this too...I can't believe BOA is 2nd tallest in the city, it's right outside my hotel window and you can barely see it amongst the density here in midtown theatre district. It really is a cheater . At least 1WTC will be tallest to roof as well as spire when complete!

EDIT: beaten above! Wow, that just shows NYC really is a city with spires
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Old June 28th, 2011, 07:50 PM   #23391
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The 381 meter figure is such a hoax.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 07:52 PM   #23392
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Why is it a hoax for you?
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Old June 28th, 2011, 08:19 PM   #23393
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BOA 945 without the spire. So if your not counting spires it's still the second tallest building in the city. And to make a point, the grey part of ESB is the spire which raises 1,250 feet. The crap on top of that is the antenna, which makes it 1,454 feet
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Old June 28th, 2011, 08:56 PM   #23394
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BOA 945 without the spire. So if your not counting spires it's still the second tallest building in the city. And to make a point, the grey part of ESB is the spire which raises 1,250 feet. The crap on top of that is the antenna, which makes it 1,454 feet
1 WTC will be even worse, when it will be finished. With:

Antenna spire.......1,776 ft / 541.32 m
Roof...................1,368 ft / 417 m

Only Antenna spire height will be: 408 ft. / 124 m
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Old June 28th, 2011, 09:11 PM   #23395
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The ESB height of 1250 is legit as people go to that height.

But this all does show how by roof height the WTC complex will transform how many buildings NYC has over 1,000 feet.

In fact, if it were built before the WTC 1 even 57 Carnegie would be the second tallest building in the city by roof height.

So NYC isn't in great shape by roof height right now but things should improve dramatically over the next 5 years or so
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Old June 28th, 2011, 09:45 PM   #23396
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I do realize that people go to that height. It's just the whole spire vs roof discussion has a background of differentiating towers with usable floors in their height from those, that change from regular floors to a spire made purely for height's sake. When you look at ESB it ends around 320m, and then a spire starts. Just because you can actually get into the lower part of it makes it count, while there can be no arguement that this is just a spire, with no real usable floors. It's unfair to towers like Chrysler, for example.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 09:56 PM   #23397
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Old June 28th, 2011, 10:08 PM   #23398
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Yes, I understand your point but please remember that part of the ESB was not built for decorative purposes - it was built for dirigibles to dock to and load and unload passengers.

Also, it is still used every day - that is an observation deck that tourists go to. If you can't count observation decks then you can't count the top of lots of buildings such as the old WTC, the Sears building, etc. I would imagine the very stop floors of the Chrysler building before the spire begins are quite small and maybe no one goes there.

So yes it is small and not true office space but I think it is fair to count it in roof height comparisons. But of course this is my subjective opinion and others may view it differently.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 10:44 PM   #23399
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Hi from Spain! Iíve created a profile because I wanted to THANK YOU for your daily updates, especially to Carlos (weíre all waiting for your new birthdayís present) and Otie (I donít know where you get all those pics). Iíve been following this thread for a long time because I love skyscrapers and, of course, New York, thatís why I plan to move to this city in 2 years, nearly when itís finished.

Now some question:
-Why isnít there cladding on the base of the tower yet?
-Wonít there be a 6WTC finally?
-Any design of the 5WTC?
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Old June 28th, 2011, 11:05 PM   #23400
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Now some question:
-Why isnít there cladding on the base of the tower yet?
-Wonít there be a 6WTC finally?
-Any design of the 5WTC?[/QUOTE]

1. They aren't putting cladding on the base of WTC 1 yet because it would interfere with delivery to the upper floors, podium glass instillation will begin next year.

2. There aren't yet any plans for a 6 WTC.

3. Yes. There is a design for a WTC. Look on Wikipedia and type ' 5 WTC' or 130 liberty Street'. It will show you the design. However, construction has not yet begun because construction of another WTC project, the Vehicular Security Center & Bus Parking Facilities has begun. There are no plans for actual construction on WTC 5 to begin. But there is a design ready to go.
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