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Old July 8th, 2011, 01:18 PM   #23701
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webcam pictures for time-lapse movies

Hi,
one important question: i am collecting webcam pictures from wtcprogress.com for quite a while now in order to create a time lapse movie.
Is it allowed to take these pictures from the webcam in order to use them for a time lapse construction movie for the public (like youtube, vimeo etc.) ?

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Old July 8th, 2011, 01:22 PM   #23702
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[QUOTE=Kanto]There already is a pyramid building next to it. I'm talking about 3WFC As to spires, I never really liked them. I always liked roof height being the pinnacle height as well


I don't understand why some people do not favor spires as pinnacle height standard,can any body name me one building since the sears tower aka Willis tower by the way hate the name change that has been the worlds tallest with out spires.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 01:32 PM   #23703
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Yeah, but I think all those that hate spires would say those were cheating.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 01:35 PM   #23704
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Very tall already! Is it taller than 250 m??
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Old July 8th, 2011, 02:25 PM   #23705
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Yeah, but I think all those that hate spires would say those were cheating.
Exactly, spires and antennas are cheating. Just as this smiley shows

The official height measurement is the biggest nonsense I ever heared. There is absolutely no difference between a spire and an antenna. As to pinnacle height measurement, I accept it but only as a secondary measurement. The primary measurement in my opinion is roof height measurement.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 03:37 PM   #23706
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Hi,
one important question: i am collecting webcam pictures from wtcprogress.com for quite a while now in order to create a time lapse movie.
Is it allowed to take these pictures from the webcam in order to use them for a time lapse construction movie for the public (like youtube, vimeo etc.) ?

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Very tall already! Is it taller than 250 m??
Yep: 884' (~269.4m) and one core column that rises it to 910' 8" (~277.5m)

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Old July 8th, 2011, 03:58 PM   #23707
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[QUOTE=Otie;81042560]image hosted on flickr

Blue Hour Rebuilding: July 2011 World Trade Center Site Update by RBudhu, on Flickr

This photo is awesome - you can see just how big it is compared to the rest of downtown Manhattan.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 04:03 PM   #23708
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and the roofheight is 150m higher than 1wtc currently is, plus the spire. Itll be a giant.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 04:35 PM   #23709
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good progress.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 04:51 PM   #23710
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Exactly, spires and antennas are cheating...
I wouldn't go this far, but I do feel the old standards of having two measures was a better depiction, even if clumbsy. At the least, there should still be an accounting based on highest occupiable/functional floor level. However...
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There is absolutely no difference between a spire and an antenna.
I disagree with this. A spire is a permanent piece of the structure and is designed in concert with the building as its artistic crown. The height is (supposedly) chosen based on the artistic appeal of the overall form.

Conversely, an antenna is but an afterthought, conceived independently from the structure and is subject to change. Several skyscrapers, though none of the major ones, have seen their rooftop antennas changed but clearly that doesn't alter the form of the true building. Put another way, we technically don't need antenna except for communications purposes, but architecturally we'll always have spires.

Thus, despite their confounding impact on our judgments about skyscraper heights, there is a desicernable difference between spires and antenna.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 05:18 PM   #23711
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I think it's already sleek.

The glass being used here looks really good at every angle. I'm excited to see what views help make the new WTC the icon of New York City.
Can't wait till the glass is 25 floors higher it'll look like a monster
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Old July 8th, 2011, 06:35 PM   #23712
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Exactly, spires and antennas are cheating. Just as this smiley shows

The official height measurement is the biggest nonsense I ever heared. There is absolutely no difference between a spire and an antenna. As to pinnacle height measurement, I accept it but only as a secondary measurement. The primary measurement in my opinion is roof height measurement.
i agree. i'd rather the one on the right 100X out of 100 though i love ESB and Chrysler , i just think roof top height gets my juices flowing a lot more than a spire or antenna
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Old July 8th, 2011, 09:12 PM   #23713
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I wouldn't go this far, but I do feel the old standards of having two measures was a better depiction, even if clumbsy. At the least, there should still be an accounting based on highest occupiable/functional floor level. However...
I disagree with this. A spire is a permanent piece of the structure and is designed in concert with the building as its artistic crown. The height is (supposedly) chosen based on the artistic appeal of the overall form.

Conversely, an antenna is but an afterthought, conceived independently from the structure and is subject to change. Several skyscrapers, though none of the major ones, have seen their rooftop antennas changed but clearly that doesn't alter the form of the true building. Put another way, we technically don't need antenna except for communications purposes, but architecturally we'll always have spires.

Thus, despite their confounding impact on our judgments about skyscraper heights, there is a desicernable difference between spires and antenna.
I'd still put both antennas and spires in the same cathegory - an uninhabitable upper part of the structure. I understand that for example the 2WTC tripod spire is different from antennas, but then again, by far not different enough for spires having their own cathegory. And spires like for example those of the Petronas Towers are 100% the same as an antenna
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Old July 8th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #23714
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This thread is about the construction of 1WTC. Anything else does not belong here.
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Old July 9th, 2011, 12:15 AM   #23715
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Yep: 884' (~269.4m) and one core column that rises it to 910' 8" (~277.5m)
It's as if they gave the building a temporary spire
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Old July 9th, 2011, 12:18 AM   #23716
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This thread is about the construction of 1WTC. Anything else does not belong here.
Where are those threads located, the ones talking about wacko theories and stuff?
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Old July 9th, 2011, 12:37 AM   #23717
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If anybody wants to compare this building to other US supertalls, visit this link:
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Old July 9th, 2011, 01:15 AM   #23719
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Wow I thought that this tower was way taller than the twin towers but obvo not.
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Old July 9th, 2011, 01:50 AM   #23720
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Well "officially", it's a lot taller. But to the roof, it's the same as the Old 1WTC and just a tad taller then the Old 2WTC
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