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Old July 10th, 2011, 12:39 AM   #23781
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The official height measurement, of spires yes but antennas not, is the only ridiculous thing here. Take for example the spires of the Petronas Towers and the antennas of the Willis Tower. They look in fact identical. And therefore there is no difference between them. Accepting spires but not antennas is one of the silliest things I have ever heared.
Well I'm not sure they look EXACTLY the same, but they are certainly similar. What kinda holds up the point that antennas shouldn't be counted is that Sears kept adding new antennas on to increase height, which is kinda unfair. Maybe they should include all original elements, spires or antennas. Any later additions should not be counted. Sears would still be counted as shorter in this case.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 12:46 AM   #23782
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I am sorry maybe their is some truth that some Americans are enclosed to the rest of the worlds perspective on things if i offended anybody my apologies .
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Old July 10th, 2011, 12:47 AM   #23783
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Well I'm not sure they look EXACTLY the same, but they are certainly similar. What kinda holds up the point that antennas shouldn't be counted is that Sears kept adding new antennas on to increase height, which is kinda unfair. Maybe they should include all original elements, spires or antennas. Any later additions should not be counted. Sears would still be counted as shorter in this case.
I accept pinnacle height as a secondary measurement, but I don't see the fact when, the antenna or spire, was added mean anything.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 12:50 AM   #23784
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Well if a antenna is added merely to one-up a tower which has come along and usurped it, then it shouldn't be counted. I believe there was a bit of that between the WTC and Sears. Both should be counted by their heights when built. If a spire was added in this way, I don't think that should be counted either.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 12:53 AM   #23785
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from a eurpoean perspective I have to say that the Toronto tower is more famous and iconic
than the Seattle tower.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 12:59 AM   #23786
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From my 'European'/British perspective, I would think I've known of them for a roughly equal amount of time. I couldn't pick a better one, they are both great.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:02 AM   #23787
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Is the freedom tower going to be taller than the CN tower: O

Anyone body got diagrams comparing them?

Also to the guy who thinks the freedom tower looks small to supertalls now.... No chance maybe the BK but not anything else.. Isn't it going to be 2nd or 3rd tallest in the world after it is built?
Here is one, just go to skyscraperpage.com, click on the 'diagrams' tab, scroll down and type in any building you want to compare, seperated by a comma.

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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:07 AM   #23788
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Anyways... Who gives a sheet about CN Tower guys?

And Freedom Tower is not going to be more iconic than Burj Khalifa IMO. If you build a prefabricated house in the Ground Zero, would it be as iconic as Burj? NO! Architecture really matters and the Burj is superior to the WTC and even twins.

Anyways, did you like the design of the former twins? Personally, I donīt.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:11 AM   #23789
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Here in rainy England, i'd say the seattle space needle, is more iconic than the cn tower, What can i say i'm a big Dr crane fan lol !
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:14 AM   #23790
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Just to off set I'll say that the CN is more iconic. What can I say? I love Due South. Set in Chicago. Filmed in Toronto.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:17 AM   #23791
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"Instantly recognizable" and "Shown most in media" are two very different concepts and I feel some people are confusing the two as both synonymous definitions of "iconic". Which they are not.

In the future, a picture of Burj Khalifa and 1WTC will both be instantly recognizable for what they are and where they are and therefore both will be icons. However, 1WTC will show up in movies, TV, News, Internet and Tourist photos way more often.
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Anyways... Who gives a sheet about CN Tower guys?

And Freedom Tower is not going to be more iconic than Burj Khalifa IMO. If you build a prefabricated house in the Ground Zero, would it be as iconic as Burj? NO! Architecture really matters and the Burj is superior to the WTC and even twins.

Anyways, did you like the design of the former twins? Personally, I donīt.
I think the Willis Tower and the destroyed WTC Twins were the most beautiful buildings ever built.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:19 AM   #23793
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Anyways... Who gives a sheet about CN Tower guys?

And Freedom Tower is not going to be more iconic than Burj Khalifa IMO. If you build a prefabricated house in the Ground Zero, would it be as iconic as Burj? NO! Architecture really matters and the Burj is superior to the WTC and even twins.

Anyways, did you like the design of the former twins? Personally, I donīt.
not necessarily true. im sure 1 wtc will get more media coverage than burj, and how well a building is known is a key component to how iconic it is.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:21 AM   #23794
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Also, thanks to new Canadian Shows like Rookie Blue and Flashpoint (Both filmed AND set in Toronto) being shown in American markets, The CN Tower will gain ground on Seattle's Space Needle!



That is until all those American Cop Dramas filmed in New York start showing 1WTC... Then all bets are off!

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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:31 AM   #23795
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As an extremely biased perspective id say space needle is miles ahead of cn tower for a title of being an icon :]
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:31 AM   #23796
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I'd say the CN Tower is more iconic than the space needle and I'm American.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:32 AM   #23797
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When Taipei 101 was the worlds tallest building how much media coverage and world recognition did that building received one of the key elements to reach iconic status is location and i don't want to throw more fuel to the fire but my opinion is that Dubai is just some city in the middle of no where and that's why 1 wtc will receive more recognition then the Burj Khalifa.

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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:34 AM   #23798
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Anyways... Who gives a sheet about CN Tower guys?

And Freedom Tower is not going to be more iconic than Burj Khalifa IMO. If you build a prefabricated house in the Ground Zero, would it be as iconic as Burj? NO! Architecture really matters and the Burj is superior to the WTC and even twins.

Anyways, did you like the design of the former twins? Personally, I donīt.
The Burj Khalifa is a huge ugly turd. In fact, most actual turds look better than the Burj Khalifa.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:41 AM   #23799
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Well perhaps to Americans... But the rest of the World always knew what they were seeing when a picture of the CN Tower flashed on their TV screen. And that is the very definition of "Iconic".
I'm from Italy (so part of your definition of "rest of the world") and have to agree with him. So please don't talk for everybody when you clearly don't represent us.


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Anyways... Who gives a sheet about CN Tower guys?

And Freedom Tower is not going to be more iconic than Burj Khalifa IMO. If you build a prefabricated house in the Ground Zero, would it be as iconic as Burj? NO! Architecture really matters and the Burj is superior to the WTC and even twins.

Anyways, did you like the design of the former twins? Personally, I donīt.
I would agree with "architecture matters" statement if it wasn't for how you use it: both the Burj Khalifa and 1WTC were designed by SOM, an american architecture firm. Hahaha but generally yes, architecture does matter.

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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:44 AM   #23800
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The Burj Khalifa is a huge ugly turd. In fact, most actual turds look better than the Burj Khalifa.
Couldn't agree more! it's one hell of a turd lol! all they had in mind was sheer height, it's just like one massive spire with no building to it.
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