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Old September 15th, 2007, 12:18 AM   #2381
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oh... just 5678 posts with 'looks really nice' in this thread...

thanx for all the pix ebola and co.

finally some progress but it seems, as if work @ GZ is not the same speed everywhere...

at 5 PM the FT-work has already stopped while the passage to the WFC still is being worked on ...
mb i'm wrong but machines do not move after this time

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Old September 15th, 2007, 12:35 AM   #2382
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YTMND I made from pictures around the interwebs:

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I got 4 stars so far.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 01:18 AM   #2383
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I've been seeing progress!

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Old September 15th, 2007, 02:13 AM   #2384
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Yeah, it should be 110 stories.
It would probably be better if it was 1,776ft to the roof with all floors occuppied, so it wouldn't be cheating at all.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 02:18 AM   #2385
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If you really want a cheating building, look at the fist versions of Freedom Tower. At least w/ this design, from angles, you wouldn't be able to tell that the Twin Towers are missing if you were from the year 2000.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 02:44 AM   #2386
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It would probably be better if it was 1,776ft to the roof with all floors occuppied, so it wouldn't be cheating at all.
It's not "cheating" at anything. Spires are counted in heights, whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant.

The Burj Dubai, which is a nicely designed tower, is pretty much nothing but a spire for about the last third of its height, I don't care how many "floors" are in there.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 03:03 AM   #2387
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Personally I don't like the looks of spires on buildings for the most part. Occasionally it can look good, but I am not too fond of it.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 03:05 AM   #2388
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It would probably be better if it was 1,776ft to the roof with all floors occuppied, so it wouldn't be cheating at all.
I agree. taller tower would be better. If this 1776 number is symbolic - it can be the last floor or observation deck. And on top of it a spire rising to let's say 2000 ft. Also I would love to see the tower more massive. At the bottom is is OK, but the upper part is a bit light I think.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 04:54 AM   #2389
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We've said this before................a roof hight of 1776 and a spire hight to 2001 would be better and more symbolic.

But this simply is not going to happen. So we should talk about what is being built and not what we wish would get built.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 05:31 AM   #2390
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I guess noone will be able to change the developer decision now. The design could have been a little futuristic, a premier city like NY should have something nicer. This design is really nothing special at all ! I guess there must have been alot at ...... for people who ................the design or just simply bad taste or economic or political or whatsoever reason. NY will miss the huge chance for a really nice design at such a good location...........I wish its like 150 floors to the top of at least 600m plus viewing gallery plus rest/pub/cafe at maybe 151/152 floors.........just dreaming.........
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Old September 15th, 2007, 06:08 AM   #2391
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I guess noone will be able to change the developer decision now. The design could have been a little futuristic, a premier city like NY should have something nicer. This design is really nothing special at all ! I guess there must have been alot at ...... for people who ................the design or just simply bad taste or economic or political or whatsoever reason. NY will miss the huge chance for a really nice design at such a good location...........I wish its like 150 floors to the top of at least 600m plus viewing gallery plus rest/pub/cafe at maybe 151/152 floors.........just dreaming.........
I totally know what you are saying, but the previous post is true - no point to dream about it now.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 06:43 AM   #2392
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hehe , new landmark for NYC
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Old September 15th, 2007, 06:00 PM   #2393
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Old September 15th, 2007, 06:30 PM   #2394
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Old September 15th, 2007, 08:20 PM   #2395
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I agree. taller tower would be better. If this 1776 number is symbolic - it can be the last floor or observation deck. And on top of it a spire rising to let's say 2000 ft. Also I would love to see the tower more massive. At the bottom is is OK, but the upper part is a bit light I think.
I totally agree!

But, seriously, what is the likelyhood that is going to happen?
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Old September 15th, 2007, 11:13 PM   #2396
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Old September 15th, 2007, 11:55 PM   #2397
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I totally agree!

But, seriously, what is the likelyhood that is going to happen?
I think it may be possible once they will start building it. Maybe at the middle of the process they will assign the number 1776 to something different from the roof. The structure will be able to carry more weight I am sure. Also you can see on the picture that the Freedom tower is almost the same as the Foster's one - I think that it would be nicer to make it higher to stick to the master plan - by progressively making one tower after another lower starting at Freedom tower... technically it is lower, but visually, not that much at all.
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Old September 16th, 2007, 01:04 AM   #2398
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It's not "cheating" at anything. Spires are counted in heights, whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant.

The Burj Dubai, which is a nicely designed tower, is pretty much nothing but a spire for about the last third of its height, I don't care how many "floors" are in there.
However, the Burj Dubai will have 162 OCCUPIED floors. Even it if it didn't have a spire, it would still be the WTB. When you look at the Freedom Tower, it only has 69 occuppied floors yet its overall height is said to be 1,776 ft. The highest occupied floor falls short of the highest one in the Sears Tower, so that means that it can't even be the nation's tallest. Also, I find it rather odd how it can even jump to 1,776 ft when the roof is only 1,368 ft. Wait a minute, it is b/c of that long spire. I don't care what the CTBUH rules says what counts, spires are cheating for height b/c they are nothing but structual elements.
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why is this even an issue? the building will be tall and it will exist, that's all that needs to happen at some point. i couldn't care less about it having fewer occupied floors than former 1wtc.
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