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Old July 30th, 2011, 04:19 AM   #24761
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aperently neither of u heard my statement of being at night. the idea is at night u cant see the exact shape or the curves of beekmen amking it harder to tell the difference between the two
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Old July 30th, 2011, 04:29 AM   #24762
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Hey you know what you might be right. They do look a lot a like at night.

No I'm just bullshitting you lol.

I seen both buildings at night. And they look nothing alike.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 04:45 AM   #24763
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aperently neither of u heard my statement of being at night. the idea is at night u cant see the exact shape or the curves of beekmen amking it harder to tell the difference between the two
I heard it, and I factored it into my reply to you in which I said they look nothing alike. Can you cite us the night photo that gave you this perspective?

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I'm a newbie, just registrated myself. Only to let know how gorgeous the photos are, like to say how enthousiastic I am about these updates regarding the Freedomtower.
I watch every day and enjoy all of it.
I went back a few pages and saw this, just had to get a laugh out of it.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 05:40 AM   #24764
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In one day, almost four pages with unnecessary issues for this discussion.

Anyway ... Interesting image.

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Old July 30th, 2011, 06:11 AM   #24765
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noooo! tower 2 is a masterpiece!!!

...I wonder, why they didn't start with tower 2 simultanously with tower 1..
I still don't think Foster designed Tower 2...

Look at it in that fog! The FT will be so amazing when it is topped out and the glass is completed.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 06:35 AM   #24766
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I still don't think Foster designed Tower 2...

Look at it in that fog! The FT will be so amazing when it is topped out and the glass is completed.
It's 1 WTC, not the freedom tower...
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Old July 30th, 2011, 06:36 AM   #24767
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It's 1 WTC, not the freedom tower...
Patrick, I already stated that I will not call it that name, at least not in writing. I know it is not the "Freedom Tower", but 1 WTC was the name of the old North Tower.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 06:46 AM   #24768
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I still call it the Freedom Tower from time to time. But I have to agree with the PANYNJ, 1WTC is a more marketable name. And I'm just wonder IanG, what will you call 2WTC?
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Old July 30th, 2011, 06:50 AM   #24769
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I still call it the Freedom Tower from time to time. But I have to agree with the PANYNJ, 1WTC is a more marketable name. And I'm just wonder IanG, what will you call 2WTC?
"Tower 2", or perhaps "The Foster Tower" (since it is insisted that he designed it, etcetera, etcetera.) I'm really not sure...

I do agree that "1WTC" is a more marketable name.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 07:01 AM   #24770
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I might stop calling freedom tower all together. It's a Pataki name and it just sounds arrogant. What about the other buildings, shouldn't they be Freedom Towers too. Why not call it the World Freedom Center. The more I think about it, the dumber it sounds.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 07:08 AM   #24771
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I might stop calling freedom tower all together. It's a Pataki name and it just sounds arrogant. What about the other buildings, shouldn't they be Freedom Towers too. Why not call it the World Freedom Center. The more I think about it, the dumber it sounds.
Did I do something wrong?
Freedom Tower "sounds" arrogant, but it doesn't have to "be".

"World Freedom Center" makes no intelligible sense.

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The 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks will be a grand but subdued affair in New York City that will involve two presidents, poetry readings and visits by victims’ family members to the new memorial, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Friday.

President Obama and his predecessor, former President George W. Bush, will attend, Mr. Bloomberg said in an appearance on WOR-AM (710). Former Gov. George E. Pataki of New York and former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, who were in office during the attacks, will participate, as will Mr. Bloomberg, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York and Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey.

Mr. Bloomberg said the officials would take turns reading quotations and poems to commemorate the day. The list of 9/11 victims will also be read in its entirety, and for the first time the annual recitation will also include the names of those who died in Northern Virginia and Pennsylvania.

“This cannot be political,” Mr. Bloomberg said. “No speeches whatsoever. It’s not an appropriate thing.”

The World Trade Center site will be accessible on Sept. 11 only to family members of those killed in the attacks; the memorial will open to the general public, by reservation, the next day. Officials have already received several hundred thousand reservations, and they expect several million more in the first year.

Mr. Bloomberg said the site would be something of a maze to navigate, with several security checkpoints near the entrance on the west side and with construction areas cordoned off. Scaffolding will cover the area near the Freedom Tower, currently under construction, to prevent debris from falling on visitors.

“It’s a very carefully, well thought out system,” the mayor said. But, he added, “I’m sure some people are going to complain.”

Mr. Bloomberg said the public would still have access to the major landmarks, including the waterfall reflecting pools that stand as footprints of the former twin towers. The names of the victims of the 2001 attacks, as well as the 1993 bombing at the World Trade Center, are inscribed on the edges of the pools.

“You’ll be able to walk up and touch the names and look over and around both of the voids,” Mr. Bloomberg said.

Construction of the memorial and a corresponding museum is expected to be finished by 2014, but parts will open before then.

The museum will bring visitors underground to the foundations of the original World Trade Center. It will display remnants of the staircases that people used to rush to safety in the aftermath of the attacks, as well as artifacts from the site.

One of those artifacts, a cross-shaped steel beam found amid the rubble, has stirred controversy in recent days. American Atheists, a nonprofit group, filed a lawsuit arguing that the cross, which became a symbol of hope to many in the days after the attacks, violated the United States Constitution because it is a religious symbol and the museum is partly financed by the government.

Asked about the lawsuit, Mr. Bloomberg defended the cross, saying it was a part of history.

“In a museum, you want to show things that impacted people’s behavior back then, even if you don’t think it was right,” he said. “Museums are for history.”

Other religious artifacts would be displayed, he added, including a Star of David cut from the steel of the towers, a Jewish prayer shawl and a Bible.

“A lot of people looked to religion for strength after the attack,” he said. “You shouldn’t tell people what religion to practice or whether to practice a religion, but you also shouldn’t prevent people from practicing any religion they want in any ways they want.”

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Old July 30th, 2011, 07:54 AM   #24772
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I said it sounds stupid. 1WTC is fine by my standards.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 10:03 AM   #24773
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@IanG, that info should be post at the NS11M&M thread.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 01:09 PM   #24774
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July 29th..

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Old July 30th, 2011, 01:15 PM   #24775
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yea this tower has more meaning than all of the super talls that have been made in the past 40 years combined
That's what it's all about. Thinking of the tragedy what makes this tower rise, the story behind it.

I hope I make myself clear because my english is not so very good
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Old July 30th, 2011, 03:44 PM   #24776
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New World Trade Center Now Officially Tallest Building In Lower Manhattan


One World Trade Center, left, rises up in the Manhattan skyline in this aerial photo,
Wednesday, July 27, 2011, in New York. (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan)

July 29, 2011

The steel of number one World Trade Center now pokes above the skyline. It’s the tallest building in lower Manhattan, now up to the 76th floor with concrete decked boards up to the 68th story and glass curtain walls installed to the 49th floor.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 04:40 PM   #24777
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Old July 30th, 2011, 06:21 PM   #24778
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No matter what you call 1 wtc its still going to be a great building.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #24779
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Old July 30th, 2011, 09:33 PM   #24780
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This will be a great skyscraper when completed!
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