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Old August 2nd, 2011, 08:20 AM   #24881
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Stopping this argument immediately.
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 08:22 AM   #24882
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Not at all, Sears tower is 150X75 feet wide at the top compared to 200X140 for WTC1 and. Sears is not even 100 feet higher and shorter to the pinnacle, look at the SSP diagram, they are of similar height.

However those will be the only 400 meter towers in the USA to the roof unless 2WTC turns out to be that tall.
STR made a render comparing this building to the sears tower, and sears does look a good deal more massive. sears is thin towards the top but much wider lower down. the render shows the two buildings at different angles, which the diagrams at SSP are unable to do. and besides, i said bigger, which includes the overall size of the building, not just height. numbers support my claim to an extent as well. this building is 2.6m sq ft, whereas the sears tower is 3.8m sq ft. im not trying to spark an argument between sears and wtc. just trying to sort of put the wtc in context with other buildings to get a better sense of the size of the building.

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Old August 2nd, 2011, 08:51 AM   #24883
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I hope that 1WTC will not be badly affected by this but we'll see...
That explains why the site was empty over the weekend...
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 10:14 AM   #24884
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What??? the top floor of the Empire state building is 1224 feet It's roof at 1250, the spire is actually a radio antenna that goes to 1470ish
Wrong the antenna sits on top of the spire.
And the roof of ESB doesnt reach 1,250 feet, the spire does.

I said 1,060 because the spire(the silver part of ESB) looks about 160 to 170 feet tall.
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 11:07 AM   #24885
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although there is space within that so called spire also observation
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 01:17 PM   #24886
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Well, Willis is both bigger and taller, the diagram says it all

So the height is now 960 feet? I'll make a checklist diagram according to that. This time I'll make an US diagram in both feet and meters. That should satisfy everybody

Btw, the ESB controversy sure is puzzling. It would be easy to determine the height of it if they wouldn't build that one floor in the spire. Now it's stated that it's roof height is 381m, but if we would not count that one floor it would be 330m. I'm really puzzled. But since both Wikipedia and SSP state the roof to be 381m, I'll go with that in my diagrams
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 02:56 PM   #24887
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According to Wikipedia Construction of the One World trade Center has infact been halted at the 78th floor after the construction workers walf out because of their contract has already expired.

Good luck to Larry Silverstein he is almost 80 years old and indeed wants the entire One World Trade Center ,200 Greenwich,175 Greenwich,150 Greenwich all finished in his life-span and the 200 Greenwich is still at B2 level.......
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 03:09 PM   #24888
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Halted? It is halted?

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Old August 2nd, 2011, 05:25 PM   #24889
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Well, if the workers are underpaid, it is good they quit. They must be able to live a good life as well.
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 05:34 PM   #24890
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I see two cement trucks on site on the Earthcam....I cannot tell if they are just parked there, or pumping, but there are yellow vested people working.

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Old August 2nd, 2011, 05:36 PM   #24891
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Trust me, construction workers in the northern US are not underpaid. They are very highly paid with very good benefits. They haven't suffered all the cutbacks other workers have because you can't outsource their jobs and the unions very tightly control who can get jobs.

In fact, if it is the government paying for this project then law mandates they pay "prevailing wage" which is a total rip off and explains in part why construction in places like NY is so expensive.

I don't know any of the details of this exact dispute though, just letting you know you don't need to worry about construction workers in NYC, they do very well.
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Michael Pappalardi, center and Pasquale Deodata, right, join a walkout of cement and concrete laborers outside One World Trade Center, Tuesday, Aug. 2, 2011 in New York. The union has been without a contract since July 1.
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I hope this gets resolved soon. We are unhappy, the workers are unhappy, the PA is unhappy, everybody is unhappy with this problem
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 08:42 PM   #24895
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76th floor decking is being installed today. We should see 77th and 78th floor columns by the end of the week hopefully.

Image 1: AUG. 1st. Image 2: AUG. 2nd.


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Old August 2nd, 2011, 08:45 PM   #24896
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Michael Pappalardi, center and Pasquale Deodata, right, join a walkout of cement and concrete laborers outside One World Trade Center, Tuesday, Aug. 2, 2011 in New York. The union has been without a contract since July 1.
Hopefully this won't effect the work on the core too badly. They can't raise new steel if they get too far ahead of the core. What a clusterf**k. This better be resolved soon.
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 08:47 PM   #24897
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I hope this problem does not delay construction much. That would just be a shame.
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 09:11 PM   #24898
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76th floor decking is being installed today. We should see 77th and 78th floor columns by the end of the week hopefully.
According to specter000 there already is one column on the 78th floor
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 09:14 PM   #24899
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^There is. It's on the north side (possibly northeast?) side of the building so we can't see it from that angle (which is from the south).
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 09:25 PM   #24900
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There's still alot of material that need to go through the lobby + some mechanical equipment need to be installed above the lobby floor before adding the base cladding. Another reason why they aren't installing the panels is because once installed it's easy to get damaged.

The original plans featured prismatic glass panels, but due to costs issues, they needed to be redesigned. No aviable information of the new panels.
That makes sense...many thanks Otie .
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