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Old September 3rd, 2011, 04:33 AM   #25881
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This building isn't actually going to be 1,776' tall.
Main Lobby is at Elv. 311'2
North Entrance is at 307'10"
Beacon is at 2087'2, 1776' above main lobby floor, but 1779'4 above north entrance.
PLUS, if you look at the top of the diagram, there's an 8' section above the beacon, making it 1787'4" tall. (544.92m)

1787 is actually a much better number, when you think about it. 1776 was when we declared independence from a country that's now an ally. How the hell is that really relevant to this building? 1787, on the other hand, was the year the US Constitution was written. A living, active document, and is therefore much more relevant.
Hi STR.

Are those elevations above the NY city municipal datum ?
If the North entrance is a significant, open air, pedestrian entrance then you are probably correct in assuming that floor will be the starting point for the 3 official CTBUH measures.
Perhaps the 8 foot piece is to be considered removable. If so then the 1787 would be the height to pinnacle and the 1779 the height to arch. top.

Great info STR.


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Old September 3rd, 2011, 04:37 AM   #25882
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 04:41 AM   #25883
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hi hull ,i to watched that documentry still quite sad to see this ,but to your quote i think they ment that the top of the antenna will be 400 foot taller than the roof of the old towers ,they are the only numbers that equal correctly. didnt realise 200 jumped to their ends ,god bless them all .
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:09 AM   #25884
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A bit ironic that it says the French will never forget, because it seems they've already forgotten what the Twin Towers even looked like.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:23 AM   #25885
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A bit ironic that it says the French will never forget, because it seems they've already forgotten what the Twin Towers even looked like.
theres no need to be an ass hole.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:27 AM   #25886
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I find it really cool that they're doing that. So maybe they didn't get the Twins exactly right, but it's a really nice way of showing respect. It's better then doing nothing, after all ;P
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:31 AM   #25887
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theres no need to be an ass hole.
Just stating a fact, which I have every right to do. If you have a problem with that, too bad.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:34 AM   #25888
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Just stating a fact, which I have every right to do. If you have a problem with that, too bad.
i hope people take the way you act as an example of how not to act on these forums. it seems that the vast majority of the times you post something, its nothing but completely unproductive whining or an attempt at doing nothing but bothering other people.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:40 AM   #25889
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i hope people take the way you act as an example of how not to act on these forums. it seems that the vast majority of the times you post something, its nothing but completely unproductive whining or an attempt at doing nothing but bothering other people.
Why don't you PM me and show me all the other posts that I supposedly whine and bother people? I'd love to see them. You do apparently keep track of all my posts like a creepy stalker, no? So this should be an easy task for you. I'll be waitin' for the PM!

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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:55 AM   #25890
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 06:18 AM   #25891
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Interesting pictures I took from the site of Discovery.





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Old September 3rd, 2011, 09:01 AM   #25892
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 09:26 AM   #25893
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Beautiful, rencharles!

Anyone know why Childs was "inspired" by the Washington Monument when designing Freedom Tower? I hate thinking about this building being an obelisk. It doesn't look like one...
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 09:54 AM   #25894
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If you look at your avatar. With the guide wires going up the spire, it kind of does look like a obelisk.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 11:56 AM   #25895
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hi hull ,i to watched that documentry still quite sad to see this ,but to your quote i think they ment that the top of the antenna will be 400 foot taller than the roof of the old towers ,they are the only numbers that equal correctly. didnt realise 200 jumped to their ends ,god bless them all .
Indeed, the image of hundreds throwing themselves out of the buildings and the sound of it is a image that makes me rather upset. God bless all innocent who died in this disgusting attack.

Apparently one firefighter was killed when a person who jumped from the building landed on him. And finally those who watched the documentary the bit where the firefighters described how they had to run over bodies to get there was also really upsetting.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 12:08 PM   #25896
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This is really nice!! Makes me all fuzzy and warm inside to see the progress...

I certainly hope to visit the sky deck og WTC1 some day when it's finished.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 01:12 PM   #25897
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A bit ironic that it says the French will never forget, because it seems they've already forgotten what the Twin Towers even looked like.

I don't get you patrick...what's wrong about this replica? What's missing, the antennas? Let me remind you that the aim of that commemoration isn't to display a replica as faithfull/tall as the original towers! If you look at the drawings closely, you'll see (perhaps) that the Twin Towers form a giant '11' figure, admit that with the antennas, it would have ruined that effect...

Otherwise, just know that the 'Frogs' are far from being 'ignorant', think twice in the future before 'criticizing' for free. A word to the wise...

I'll try my best to go to the Trocadéro so I can take a few pics, but there will certainly be loads of journalists on the spot as well, so I guess you guys will easily find pics/videos on the internet, It will be impossible to miss it I think .

http://thefrenchwillneverforget911.com/

Dinovabec, the video you posted is wicked .

PS: in 2007, 2500 people had already formed a human chain on Omaha Beach in Normandy, one of the 5 beaches of the american 'Débarquement' on 6 June 1944 during WWII.

You can see in the background the US Cemetery where thousands of brave soldiers have been resting...Those 4 words say it all.

Sorry, let's get back to 1WTC now.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 04:35 PM   #25898
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Guys, the French commemoration is pretty interesting, but this thread isn't the appropiate for that, go to the National September 11 Memorial & Museum
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:19 PM   #25899
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Wow, watching that video just brought to my mind how far they've really come since that pile of rubble on 9/12/01.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:31 PM   #25900
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The memorial area is amazing it's like a green paradise! It's seems to have the perfect atmosphere for those who will be remembering their family and friends. This is a beautiful memorial, and is what all innocent who died in this cruel attack deserve. God bless them all

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